Christianity is going to be extinct soon.
Are you kidding? There are so many Christians throughout the world (along with people of other religious beliefs too mind you). It would take quite a long time.
Don't base real life on Hollywood and the media, simply because Christianity is dying there doesn't mean it's happening everywere.
"I gotta Swansons dinner in the freezer with your name on it."
Hmm... perhaps "extinct" was a strong word, but I definitely feel that there's a weird see-saw thing going on. On one hand, it seems stronger than ever in certain aspects (ie christian movements, possible ideology showing up in political situations, etc.), and then on the otherhand, more and more people seem to be growing out of its vaguely antiquated and misdirected notions and seeing christianity in a new, somewhat negative light. "Extinct" was the wrong word to use, but I guess I feel it's on a decline in many ways. I don't think it will ever be gone... not anytime soon anyhow, but I do feel that many of these so-called christians are becoming synonymous with such concepts as intolerance and judgement, which, in turn, could turn people away from it.share
Yes, I understand what you're saying.
Christianity itself seems like it's changing and becomming one giant party of people who are judgemental hypocrites, as opposed to what it was intended to be.
But I dont think it will be any less popular in our lifetime. I do think that the media is making the "extinction" seem faster than it really is though.
But you also have a point, it could very well someday become extinct. Look at the Roman Gods and Godesses.
"I gotta Swansons dinner in the freezer with your name on it."
well as time progresses religion is going to either become more accepting, more free form and more modern (see neo-paganism and people who do church on sundays) or more devout, pious and political (right wing christians and islamic fundementalists). thats what I think anywayshare
Christianity is truth. It will never go away. Veritas Vincit!share
See how it is? As of January 30, 2006 the only other 2 comments to this statement had to be deleted. People have a hateful and sinical view of Christianity and it is all because of religious nuts. If you want to get away from hypocrits and religion and hear about the spiritual side of Christianity then email me at [email protected].share
I agree. Most people are very hypocritical when it comes to their actions and what their religion teaches. It all ends up about control;It's just a way of controlling others. Get more people to believe in what you believe and you have more control over the other people that don't. But how do you establish control? Teach people to be ashamed of something that is completely natural, then show them that religion is the way to not feel ashamed about that particular thing anymore.
Which is why philosophy is the way to go. Live by your own rules of right and wrong, don't be a sheep. Besides, it all comes down to personal interpretation in the end any way.
But it won't go away. As long as Christians have children, there will be Christianity. A few will break away, as I did. And a few will get lured in.
I'm sure that's exactly what the early Christians had in mind as they were persecuted, beheaded, burned alive, and fed to the lions in Roman arenas - control. I'm sure that's what thousands of Christians in other countries across the world plan every day as they are jailed, beaten, or worse for their beliefs - control the world and make others ashamed. My mother grew up in a communist country where they had to practice their faith in hiding, in secret. Please don't let the way you were raised or were taught the word of God scew the reality that we have a living God who loves us and desires our love as well. That's why he created us. God is the unmoved mover, that created everything that we know of as existence, and that through mankind's choice to see what life was outside the protection of God (Eden)that we made ourselves succeptable to evil and every temptation, mental, physical, and spiritual illness that came along with it. It is the word of God, and our savior the Christ (who is the way, the truth, and the life), that give us a fighting chance in this world against our own sin, and the only way to know God and God to know us, so that we not only live a satisfied life on earth, but in the hereafter as well.share
You stated 'Funny how 2000+ years after his crucifixion Jesus hasn't returned to Earth "to judge the living and the dead".'
It is a dumb statement and this is why. Anything that exists within time has a beginning and an end. God has no beginning or end therefore he exists outside of time. He has always been and always will be, and if you can't comprehend this it is because you live in a universe of rules and laws such as time. Since God exists outside of time "returning soon", though it seems long to us, is only a brief moment to him.
Also, people like Pope Benedict, Brian Tamaki, etc. are far from the spirit of God. These people are the dinosaurs, not Christianity itself. There are many Christians who have fallen from the path of righteousness and many who have never been on it and just call themselves Christian. The religious people know nothing of the spirit of God, yet they blabber on as if they know the truth. Those people are why Christianity is hated and frowned upon. Only truely spiritual people who don't follow the man-made guidelines of Christianity, but seek the true will of God know the truth. Religious Christians give us a bad reputation, but know nothing. Speek to a spiritual one and you will see a significant difference.share
Ya see....all of the posts since mine have one thing in common: personal interpretation. Like I said to begin with. ;)share
It has nothing to do with personal interpretation, it has to do with true interpretation. If I say "That ball is green." you can interpret it however you like, but it only has one meaning. You just have to find out what that meaning is. Some people interpret the way they want instead of the way it is.share
Color has scientific basis due to the wavelengths of the visible light spectrum. A "higher power," on the other hand, has no factual basis behind it at this point. One is a popular example of a belief, and one is a scientific fact. Your analogy is malformed.share
Christianity is absolutely not going to be extinct are you stupid?
It's actually the second fastest religion in the world.
Islam grows with 2,9 % per year
Christianity with 2,4 % per year..Islam grows 0,5 % faster than Christianity.
The other thing we have to notice is that the majority of the people converting to Christianity, get involved in CONSERVATIVE churches.
In the USA, it's only the Southern Baptist (very conservative) and the Catholic Church that are actually growing, and that in a pretty good tempo.
There are 65 million Catholics, and 17 million southern baptist.
In the whole world there's about 2 000 000 000 christians, so to say that Christians and Christianity are going to be extinct thats *beep*
It's liberal wish that it would happen, but it will not, ever.
In Southamerica, in asia, in some parts of america (specially the south), in africa and believe it or not even i europe where I live, more and more people are turning back to religion. People that have a long ateistic family tradition are now seen as devout christians...
religion is between an individual and god. the fact that whether your religion grows fast or not even matters invalidates anything else your religion has to say. christianity is a fast growing religion because ignorant, prejudiced fools disguised as missionaries go to poor regions of the world and give bibles to people instead of food and clothing.share
What's going to be extinct soon is FREE SPEECH. This show was already cancelled.
Bill of Rights, R.I.P.
Ironic, too, how there were DEATH THREATS from people who hated the show. I don't think Jesus would approve. Do you?
Free speech includes the right to say the show should be cancelled. Additionally, the people sending death threats are really just hiding under the guise of Christianity but aren't following God's will at all and aren't truely Christian.share
Christians should be intolerant about some things. The bible did not read as follows:
And Jesus said unto His disciples, “Go into all the world, teaching all men to live any way they want, and urging each to find his or her own path to God. Let not any one of you make someone feel inferior or victimized because of your beliefs. Above all, be tolerant. Verily, verily, I say unto you that what you believe and how you live do not matter, so long as you are sincere.”
Leaving that place, Jesus led His disciples to Jerusalem where they broke bread at Club Upper Room. There He addressed them again, saying, “I am one of the ways, one of the truths, and just one possible life. If you are basically a good person, you’re okay in my book. And if you choose to come to the Father (or Mother, if you prefer) through Me, that’s cool. Now go forth to live according to whatever feels good to you.”
And there was much rejoicing.
If it did, then Christianity would be nothing more that a social club of people who get together and stare at the ceiling.
"I think the human race is getting smarter in general, and with more intelligence there is less tendency to believe in a deity."
I completly disagree with that statement. I am a man of science, and even though it may seem like science and technology advancements are getting in the way of religion, for me at least it only reaffirms the existance of a higher power and gives me faith to believe
I agree. You should read the book "A Scientific View of Christianity". No, it isn't scientology. i think you will like it.share
"High numbers of Christians converting to Islam" ?!?
Where the heck are you getting you information from? I highly doubt that.
"I gotta Swansons dinner in the freezer with your name on it."
Neitchze (sp) said over a hundred years ago that Christianity would be gone in a hundred years. And he was wrong. It's going in full force. So no, as long as there is God and Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, it will NOT become extinct.share
um well, I think this thread was opened for educational debate about the nature of religion, its appeals to people in genera and if christianity could ever cease to be a major world religion. Many incredibly popular and long lasting religions have all but dissapeared.
Please keep this thread intellectual.. and not.. well, frickin' random Autlan.
Rickyfan, Neitchze may have said christianity would be extinct in a hundred years, and of course he was wrong. But to say "christianity has been around for awhile, so it'll last" is not really a valid point. Or any point. The egyptian religion and civilisation lasted thousands of years, without that much change and diversion. With the exception of a few small circles of eygptian religious practices, their beliefs are practically extinct.
Perhaps for christianity to cease to be, there would need to be some sort of global military/fundementalist action. Or perhaps the faith with change dramatically, maybe even into something completely different.
if you are offended by the idea that christianity could ever possibly be extinct... dont post here.
Who said anything about me being offended?
Oh, and by the way, if you are offended by the idea that Christianity will not become extinct...don't post it, either.
I grew up in the UAE. You have to live in a country where Islam is the state religion to REALLY know the lengths they go through to propogate the religion.
I have actually held literature in my hands where a person named Ahmed Deedat categorically identified 50,000 "errors" in the bible. I am not concerned about these errors... but the fact that this person went so far as to list these out proves his determination...
I have heard incredibly worse things about the state of affairs in Saudi Arabia...
Cogito, ergo sum...
How many Missionaries have you known personally??? That statement is insane. I've know several and I can guarantee that they risked a lot because they genuinely wanted to reach out to people and help them. And yes, part of that help is teaching those people about Christianity and wanting them to have the same hope and faith that they do.
But they do a tremendous amount of work helping people in lots of other ways (teaching adults and children; building schools; stabalizing areas that are in conflict through peaceful resolutions; bringing in desperately needed medicine, food and water; building infrastructure; many act as doctors in tribal villages; teaching new skills; and on and on).
Please talk to some Christian Missionaries. Find out what they do and the kinds of risks that they take to help other people. The other religions you mentioned may not spread their beliefs the same way, but I think you'd find that they also don't help people the same way Christian Missionaries do as well.
Yes, there are a bunch of snobby missionaries. People like them are the reason that Christianity is frowned upon. I've also known many humble and loving missionaries and those are the ones that are trying to not only convert nonChristian people, they are also trying to correct the wrongs done by Christians who have become self-righteous and snobby. I am a Christian, yet I end up argueing with Christians more than any other group of people. Before we can make a truely great spiritual impact on the world we need to correct ourselves first. I'm not saying that we need to stop preaching or spreading the word. I'm saying that while we do so we should also be correcting our fellow Christians who have gotten wrong ideas and fallen into sin.share
There are lots of "faiths" in America. Many of them have nothing to do with Christianity. Sadly, those who control the access to the minds of children will set the agenda for the future of our nation and the future of the western world.
“We are engaged in a social, political, and cultural war. There's a lot of talk in America about pluralism. But the bottom line is somebody's values will prevail. And the winner gets the right to teach our children what to believe." Gary Bauer (American Values)
Christianity as a religion will disappear only at the end of the world... Throughout the history, the christian church had its moments of decline, because of different reasons, but every time it recovered...there have always been lots of anti-christian people who said that christianity as a religion will not survive, but they were proven wrong, as you can see. What is really sad is that many people really believe in this "hollywood style" view of christians, and the media almost totally embraces this view. I will agree that there are so-called christians who might resemble the characters in this series in some aspects, but it's totally wrong to say that this is the real image of christianity these days. It's quite clear for me that one of the main purposes of this show is to destroy the image of christians in the minds of as many people as possible. This is not an accurate potrayal of christians, it's just mockery of the christian faith.share
Spoken like Stalin and his thugs. BTW, they failed, as will the Hollywood bigots.share
Saying that Christianity will become extinct is like saying that the metric system will become extinct.
However, unless Christianity updates its values to more contemporary standards, it's in for some deep *beep*
Even my deeply devoted Christian friends don't follow a lot of the outdated rules anymore, such as abstinence.
Like Bob Dylan said, "the times are-ah changing."
Christians don't believe in total abistinence because then they would have no children. They believe in abstinence until mairrage, which isn't an outdated rule and can still be done very easily. Sex is not seen as evil, just having multiple partners is. If you don't know the basics of Christianity then don't try speaking about it.share
On the contrary, I think more people are going to hear the true teachings of Jesus Christ. Those teachings include, love, forgiveness, tolerance, and the fact that there are no exceptions to God's love.share
Yes, and the true practitioners of most religions adhere to those teachings not to the hate speech of the fanatical nut branch of their faiths.share
If what orgnaizations like the AFA were really Christianity, it should become extinct. I have said before and I will say again, the AFA does NOT, n-o-t, not, not, not represent all Christians.share