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NOTTHE TRUTH! MORE LIBERAL BS!


Just read up on this and it sounds like more politically correct BS.

The version of this I want to see is the one where the note is false and put there by a hard core PC/leftwing student who wants to frame an innocent student to prove racism exists where it does not.

Modern day campuses are hotbeds of speech codes and intolerance but not towards minority students but towards Christians , Catholics , conservatives etc.

This film plays right into the left-wing PC agenda.

I went to a university in the early nineties where the feminists framed a student for rape because they thought someone had to 'pay for two-thousand years of oppression'.

That's the version I want to see. This is more liberal *beep* that is exactly what it claims to condemn!

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"sounds like"

could be, but I'd at least wait to pass judgement until you see it or it is more widely seen. Not just 'read up on it and sounds like'.


There is no night as deep as this
Inevitable mind's abyss
Where I now dwell with foes alone

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Have you read the play? I've seen a preliminary cut of the film and the major difference is that Simon Brick, the victim, actually appears in the film. I won't say more, but if you were aware of the ending, I don't think you would have said those things.

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Lmao..and this..is conservative BS. Thanks.

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Mmm. Yes. It's always so intelligent to condemn something one hasn't seen. "Spinning into Butter," indeed.

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LOL I can't wait until the movie actually comes out and the original poster realizes how stupid and uneducated those comments were. I was on set, and while I'm not sure how much variance there is between the original play and the way the movie played out (because I haven't seen or read the play), I can tell you that whatever research the OP did was invented of his own accord.

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I'm probably coming into this very late, but I gotta tell the OP: if this sticks to the original play, you will be EXTREMELY surprised by the outcome.
The title refers to a children's story that has become extremely controversial in the PC era. w/o giving the title, it has to do with a little boy of Indian--as in coming from India--extraction. He wears his beautiful new clothing into the jungle despite his mother's warning. His clothing is stolen by tigers who eventually get into a fight over which of them is the most stylish. They chase each other around the tree our hero is hiding in and eventually "spin themselves into butter" which the hero then takes home so his mother might make pancakes.

In any event, as a conservative, I was waiting to be grossly offended. In fact I was. But at several times, tables are turned and then turned back again--and again. It isn't just latent racism called into question, but the hypocrisy of PC language and those who espouse it as well. It even calls into question the hypocrisy of those who scream racism over every little thing and ignore the bigger issues.

Very thought provoking FUNNY and exciting. And while I don't care for Sara Jessica Parker, I think she will fit her role perfectly, as will Miranda Richardson in hers. Can't wait to see it.





They don't teach anything at University. I had to recognize ducksh*t for brains by myself.

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Well said...I don't care for SJP either, and I am very sorry she is in this, because it is so well written and should be a great film...even the title rocks. But, I just don't know if I will be able to relax and watch her on the screen without wanting to scream.

Has anybody seen this?

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jesse - it might be even easier to explain that the story was originally written in 1898 by a Scottish woman living in India, and that the story takes place in a fairy tale India with Caribbean elements. It's not quite only about what you've said - the character's name, the title of the book, the illustrations in the European version, and the event that takes place when he returns home all have to do with the controversy around the book in the mid-20th century.

In 1996 - the controversy was sort of "settled" when someone re-illustrated, re-named the boy, and re-titled the story but published the story exactly as it had been written. No one said a thing about it then. In fact, there are modern versions of the tale dating as recently as 2003.

Anyway, it's a bit off topic but I wanted to kind of help explain that it's not at all what the OP said it is. :)

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Has anyone seen this yet?

What is happening with this? Anyone?

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ladydelaluna wrote:
" it might be even easier to explain that the story was originally written in 1898 by a Scottish woman living in India...
...Anyway, it's a bit off topic but I wanted to kind of help explain that it's not at all what the OP said it is."
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And it's not really what you said either. In case you didn't notice, Sarah Jessica Parker isn't playing the role of a 19th century Indian woman in this film.

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Are you kidding me?

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I wonder how many here know what the title refers to. . . . . .

This is not here.

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"Spinning Into Butter" as I recall (and I think it's mentioned in the play) refers to the story we now call "Sam and the Tigers", originally written about an Indian child named Sambo. (At least, in my picture book, he was Indian and his parents were definitely portrayed in clothing native to India, not Africa) The tigers steal Sam's finery, then fight over which of them looks finest...and they chase each other around a tree until they have spun themselves into butter...which Sam gathers in a jar and take home to his mother to make pancakes.

I haven't studied the phenomenon of the book, but I owned a copy of the original story of "Little Black Sambo" and never once connected the characters with either Africa or African Americans. Mom and Dad--"Black Mumbo" and "Black Jumbo" were dressed as a Rajah and a Rahnee (sp?) and looked quite well to do.
I loved looking at the pictures in the book because they were exotic. What did I know? I was five. Like the song says "You've got to be carefully taught..."

But I digress....

In the play, I took it to mean people spin themselves into "butter" by trying to be more PC than the next and all that buttery hype ends up greasing the skids for the main character to leave...and for the young man she is counseling to finally get help.

They don't teach anything at University. I had to recognize ducksh*t for brains by myself.

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Notice that this guy (or "girl" - LOL) posts these kinds of messages almost exclusively - just anti-liberal BS. Seems s/he has some sort of stick up the butt.

Yes, I'm sure feminists FRAMED someone for rape on your campus to pay for two thousand years of oppression. Whatever you have to believe to make yourself happy, I guess. Talk about deluded.

And yes - the three Cs (Christians, Catholics, and conservatives) are just SO oppressed in our society. LOL.

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Just read up on this and it sounds like more politically correct BS.

The version of this I want to see is the one where the note is false and put there by a hard core PC/leftwing student who wants to frame an innocent student to prove racism exists where it does not.

Modern day campuses are hotbeds of speech codes and intolerance but not towards minority students but towards Christians, Catholics, conservatives etc.

This film plays right into the left-wing PC agenda.

I went to a university in the early nineties where the feminists framed a student for rape because they thought someone had to 'pay for two-thousand years of oppression'.

That's the version I want to see. This is more liberal *beep* that is exactly what it claims to condemn!


Uhhhhh Maybe you should actually SEE the movie before you judge. You'd be surprised (& you're gonna feel pretty damned stupid too.)
But that's OK Why not label something BEFORE you "get to know it."

I resent the fact that you would call yourself a conservative when really what you mean is that you're a racist.
Don't use conservative as a "code word" for racist.
Because in your tiny little brain acknowledging that racism exists must make one a Left-wing PC Liberal?
What an insult to real conservatives!

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well played. that is EXACTLY what I was thinking. Acknowledging racism is something people need to do, regardless of if it's directly in your face or not. the person does sound racist; at the very least, they OBVIOUSLY hate liberals. they sound like they are trying to defend Christians and Conservatives--I thought both of those groups were supposed to be pious and God fearing people? very ironic. my favorite part of this so-called argument :"modern day campuses are hotbeds of speech codes and intolerance not towards minorities but for Christians, Catholics, conservatives etc. " WHAT?! WHAT?! I've studied at my share of schools and I have actually been surprised to see the level of blatent racism and hatred still around and the ONLY time I've ever heard any ill words spoken against Christians, Catholics, or conservatives is when they act insane and extreme or when they run around trying to convert everyone else. oh and when they judge other people relentlessly, like the original poster probably does. Conservative, Liberal--honestly, who cares? in the broader scope of things, does the labeling of your beliefs really matter? I know this is gonna sound like "liberal BS!!!" [lol] but, instead of focusing on trying to seperate ourselves, trying to label one another, and being picky over who we care about because they don't agree with everyone single one of our oblivious ideas, we should focus on working together as human beings! if we all put our minds together, if we actually tried to work together and understand each other and help each other, our world would probably be a much happier place. instead we have people worrying about calling themselves liberal or conservative, and sticking to each one of those parties boxed in ideas. and we have people hating each other over their "race" when in actuality, "race" isn't even a biological reality. there is no such thing as race; the only reason we have different colored skin, is because of where our ancestors lived--more sun, darker skin, less sun, lighter skin--that's it, no major differences between people with different skin color. but people get killed over crap like that. there's just so many things that people waste their time hating each other for, and putting each other down for. its pathetic--we're supposed to be reasonable, logical beings, capable of all kinds of amazing feats, but we act like monkeys throwing s**t at each other. its just crazy--if people [like the original poster] devoted as much time and energy into caring and helping one another as they put into hating and putting each other down, we would live in *beep* Utopia. call me crazy, but I'd rather love my fellow human being then put them down or disparage them in any way because of their ideas, their culture, skin color, what's between their legs or who they want to bone in their own time. hating makes you ugly, even if you hate and you think you're on the right side; especially for someone who's supposed to value God or any type of spirituality, cause it goes against the very fundamentals of most, if not all spirituality teachings. jeez just be nice, and maybe, just take a look in the mirror and try to realize that what you believe in isn't the ONLY right thing in the entire world because there's many "right" ways to go about living life; you can't deny someone just because their way is not your way.

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