Movies Like This Are...


not entertaining to watch. OK I know not all films will appeal to everyone but movies like this are just vehicles for actors to push their limits and are sort of like vanity projects. Now you take actors like Philip Seymour Hoffman, his films are not only entertaining and fun but he pushes himself and it's not like surgery to watch them, they are entertaining. This film was not fun to watch, not entertaining either (unless you are specifically a fan of one of the actors in it).

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I disagree. I found it to be a compelling story and very well acted.

--push pause!

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Yea I totally disagree. Really sad movies can be entertaining too. The characters and the story were interesting. And I enjoy watching good acting aswell. This movie speaks to people. I don't like alot of new movies, but this sure was good. And all these things make it entertaining to me.

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Now you take actors like Philip Seymour Hoffman, his films are not only entertaining and fun but he pushes himself and it's not like surgery to watch them, they are entertaining.


Watch "Love Liza", it's like open heart surgery.



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Not all films are meant to be entertaining. Many are made to be realistic depictions of how the world really is.

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i agree with thestarchild90 - films don't have to be entertaining. film can also be art and interesting at the same time. if all you are after from a film is entertainment then stick to the mainstream multiplex stuff. don't complain when a different kind of film doesn't give you what you seem to enjoy.

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marwans07...well said!

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I agree too marwans07 well said.
The movie was painful and gentle, the pace was right for it was mourning after all, no?

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I think "fun to watch" and entertainment are different things! Comedy and action are fun to watch, even horror. But a film like this doesn`t want to be fun to watch IMHO. It wants to tell a story about life. And to me, crying (as I did) being angry at a character (as I was) and smiling about Jerry with the kids (as I did) makes a pretty darn entertaining movie.
I really liked it though it had it`s flaws - why did they start with those flashbacks (which I really enjoyed) and then moved on without them? I thought that was unfortunate. I didn`t care too much for those closeup scenes of noses and eyes and ears but thats freedom of the art I suppose. Otherwise great acting and a moving story!

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I liked reading your comment doodlepenny and I do agree with what you say, same here.
Reading and posting here on IMDb occasionally it's the one disagreement that keeps coming back all the time in every thread. A lot of people seem to insist a movie should be entertaining like in just entertaining meaning easy, comfortable and silly (fun to watch, how fun is that). And then there is people who claim a movie can or should be entertaining and at the same time interesting. Difficult is not unpleasant, it is interesting and can be emotional and fascinating.
Fun to watch is lazy, interesting is stretching yourself a little bit into a new experience. I mean when do you think what to do when my partner dies and I feel my partners best friend is the only one I can relate to and can console me? It was an interesting theme and good study.

So I think movies like this are a relief and a surprise. Because I didn't expect much of it. I also thought it was original.

I agree with you on the style and/or cinematographic bit. The use and later avoiding of flashacks was a little inconsistent. The big scene at the table (Hale Berry telling about the fire they had and what her husbands reaction was towards this incicent) with all of the people involved with each other would have been perfect for a flashback (but then we wouldn't have seen Hale Berry in that big emotional scene. And it worked. A key scene for the present, because afterwards she realises her husband is really no longer with her).
Maybe it was done on purpose as to reveal Hale Berry was living in the past in the beginning of the film, and not any longer towards the end of the film. As a viewer I felt comfortable and very cosy witnessing those flasbacks. I can understand Hale Berry would want to live in that past than in the present realising that life has gone.

Director Bier speaks of those extreme close-ups in the extra's on the DVD. That they are like landscapes (I get that, visually they are like objects or landscapes. But so what, what is the use in context to the scene and dialogue?) and that they are very emotional (I don't get that at all, what is so very emotional seeing a big part of an ear? In relation with a voice-over it works, but I think in spite of not thanks to the use of extreme close-ups).

I didn't mind and wasn't disturbed, because like you I thought it was great acting and a moving story too.

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yup...
im watching this movie because im a fan of...
ALISON LOHMAN
i also enjoy this movie...

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I was thinking the same thing about Hoffman when I was watches "The Savages"-that movie was hard to watch too, but somehow he and Laura made it easy to get through.

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What do you mean mamnoooooooooo you don't seem to agree with the OP.
I think "The Savages" was a good or great movie. You say 'hard to watch' because of the heavy subject and strong theme. That is a powerful drama.
The interaction between the two was good, and they are nice to watch despite the unpleasant reality they live in, is that what you mean with 'Hofman and Laura made it easy to get through.'

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