The bed scene with Audrey and Jerry

i thought it was unrealistic that she would ask him to do this and the whole scene should have been cut from the movie. i didn't buy it for a second.

I didn't buy that scene.

While I totally get that she missed her husband and it could drive her to wanting any warm body to help her sleep, I really don't think "any" warm body would really be acceptable to a grieving widow that deep into her loss, and so soon after it.

She loved her husband deeply, and when you love someone that much, nobody else would do, for any purpose, for quite some time. Another man would not feel or smell or even hold her like her husband did, in fact when your head is that filled with that one man you love and grieve, another man is actually a turn-off to a woman that much in love and going through that much highly focused grief.

Didn't buy her wanting Benicio close to her, not even to sleep better.


Just for the record, I'm female...

I thought it was a "come on" in the sense that it was extremely passive-aggressive and that--maybe even subconsciously or unconsciously?--this was her way to justify kicking Jerry out.

"Come take my husband's place in our bed and let me wrap myself around your body while you perform this act of intimacy that was private and special between us. But don't mistake this for anything sexual [unsaid]--I just really need my earlobe stroked so I can get a good night's sleep." Does suffering make it okay to manipulate another human being? If Jerry had wondered whether letting his hand drift a little lower was part of the invitation, Audrey would have spun into a fit of righteous indignation, allowing her to send him on his way--which was really her goal from the minute she issued the invitation to Jerry at the clinic. She wanted to be able to say: "I honored your memory by giving your best friend a chance, dead husband, but he screwed it up."


Later, she's able to contort Jerry helping the children into the rationale for booting him. That's a pretty big sacrifice to make so she could be the good person who tried to help, but alas, to no avail.


I felt bad for Jerry when his NA meeting told him to put his trust in his friends who weren't addicts since his main non-addict "supporter" was determined to make him a bad guy. It's tough to negotiate the minefield when every inch is mined.

Love this movie. I just watched this movie again (phenomenal film) and still believe that Audrey wasn't coming on to Jerry. The scenes before that bed scene depict Audrey's extreme insomnia over a series of days. The grieving process is tough ... but, navigating that path as a mother of two with absolutely no sleep?! Whew. That family was so close. So much love between Brian & Audrey & they were devoted to each other & both children. Audrey could only go so long before desperation and frustration kicked in. I think we were meant to see that she was stir-crazy with grief & exhaustion & desperately in search of rest ... probably racked her brain trying to figure what to do to get a night's sleep. She knew Jerry wouldn't try anything, knew her family well since Brian shared so much with him & felt safe.

Benicia Del Toro was absolutely brilliant in this film. Played this scene perfectly ... you could see the panic in his eyes, brain working overtime thinking: Audrey has lost her mind, Brian's my best friend, what's Audrey up to & how do I hold her off without hurting her feelings if she's coming on to me in grief, I'm not equipped to handle this situation, yeah she's fine; but, nnno. The first time I saw this, I thought he would relapse after the scene!

Halle Berry was amazing as well ... best performance ever. She depicted so many facets of grief well. In the bed scene, she was no nonsense & desperate for sleep ... Jerry was merely a live rag doll that was safe & possibly a way for her to get some sleep ... a means to an end.