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This movie is against my copyright


I wrote. "The National Rocket Base", on the same similar plot to this movie. How do I go about getting in touch with them. I think I am owed a share of this. I may call my lawyer as well. google "The National Rocket Base"

It is my book. It's about a dream of a guy that builds in own rocket at a place called the national rocket base. The government steps in as well in the book. Later the go in space with the rocket because it was needed.

Kevin

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The similarities to the National Rocket Base book.

Trailer:
Mission control in Barn
Dream to go into space
Government gets involved
A loan officer
Mentioning the rocket will explode into many pieces over a large area if launched.
News covering the rocket launch
It's a one manned rocket. Mercury or Atlas rocket it seems.
15 year old kid in mission control
Launch from backyard
2 brothers wrote the film.

The National Rocket Base Book:
Mission control started out in the backyard barn
Kevin dreamed in his dreams of the NRB operation coming true
Government gets involved
A loan officer was not used, Kevin got a government grant.
The rocket did explode into many pieces over a large area North of where it was launched.
The news covered everything the NRB operation had.
It was a one manned rocket, but not refurbished like the movie. It was ALL homemade. The tube, everything was made custom.
Kevin was 15 when he was the leader of mission control in the start of the book. Later became older to run the NRB main base in the middle of the desert.
The beginning of the book a rocket was constructed in the barn, and launched from the backyard.
2 brothers, twins, kevin and brian were the main characters in the NRB. Kevin in real life, the author has a twin brother, and he and the twin pressed forward with the NRB idea.

This is all from the trailer. THe lawyer said every detail counts guys. She said this is sad they did this. The book was in public view. I pitched the idea to them when my book came out to make a movie based on my book. 2004 it came out, it's about the same time production could have started. Imagine the list I'll have when the movie comes out.

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That's crazy man. I would see what money you could get.

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So... let's see here - in your big list, only a few things actually match:

A barn
A one-man rocket
News coverage

That's pathetically little. And from the description of your book on buy.com, there is a "lazer" (sic) satellite attack on the Space Shuttle and the homemade rocket is pressed into service to rescue it. No shuttle in The Astronaut Farmer. That's a pretty big difference. Does your novel involve a NASA astronaut who has to quit to save his family farm? No? So the main character is completely different.

If you think the idea of a crazy guy building something in his barn is an idea that ONLY YOU could have come up with, you're nuts.

If you think the idea of a one-man spacecraft is an idea that ONLY YOU could have come up with, you're nuts.

If you think the idea that the news media would cover a homemade rocket launch is an idea that ONLY YOU could have come up with, you're nuts.

If you think your lawyer is going to do anything other than take your money, you're nuts.

ALSO, to prove they stole your idea, you will need to prove that they were aware of your novel. There is no law against people writing stories about the same basic idea - otherwise there would be no love stories, because hey, we've all see the "boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy gets girl back" story a million times.



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Well, this will be interesting to see how THIS story behind the story goes.
You'll recall that the writer of a children's book accused the writer of Steven Spielberg's "E.T. -- The Extra Terrestrial" of plagiarism over a book called something like "The Space Friend" wherein a benevolent space creature is befriended by children and taken along for Trick Or Treats...just like in the movie. I do not know how that turned out but it seemed to be a pretty good case.

Of course, similar claims have been brought out against Steven Spielberg:

http://www.weirdwildrealm.com/f-amistad-plagiarist.html

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I just saw this movie at an advanced screening. The Polish brothers and Billy Bob were in attendance for a Q&A after the film. One of the questions that came up was how long a movie takes to make from idea to wrap. The answer for this one - 5 years. They started writting this in 2002, two years before your book was published. So unless they broke into your home and stole your draft your argument is BUNK! GET A LIFE!

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Hey, if you have the proof that you copywrited it, get a lawyer or something.

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Like a guy who doesn't check his own spelling in an IMDB post could write a book anyone would pay attention to. Can you say, BULL$H!T?

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There was a TV movie (later a show) called "Salvage 1" from 1979 with Andy Griffith about building a rocket and going to the moon to retreive the lunar lander and other equipment left behind. They used parts they salvaged from other places to build the rocket at their home. As best I can reacll, the government was against this as well and tried to put a stop to it. It sounds a little familiar...

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Dad, never heard of it. But you see in my book. There was the backyard barn, the government involved, the ONE MANNED ROCKET. I'll add more updates to this. I will see this movie, but my lawyer wants to write everything down that is in my book that is the same as the movie.

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You'd have to prove someone involved in the production read your book, genius. That guy's right; you're full of it.

http://www.writingup.com/blog/mrliteral

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NO I don't. A copyright IS A COPYRIGHT....They have to search stuff like that in order to make a movie. This is a violation. TONS of things are too much like my book. And it is copyrighted.

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I've actually looked into this whole thing a little bit and as far as I can tell this is whats going on:

A self proclaimed novelist with a seemingly complete and utter disdain for all things spelling and grammar related wants to sue a major film studio for ripping off light plot points from his 668 page "book" (seriously 668 pages? thats nearly Pynchonian) AND he claims the money will go towards funding the Ontario Weather Service, which predicts southeren california storms and names low pressure systems that pass over the area.

Man, I think you can make a pretty damn good comedy out of that right there, I say let them have The Astronaut Farmer, start pounding out a script based on this new premise.

By the way, you should have a talk with whoever was in charge of writing your book description on amazon for oh, oh so many reasons.

This is either one of the most incredible Kaufmanesque jokes I've ever witnessed, or well, kind of sad, but still pretty funny.

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hzgea, too late. Book is already being written about me and the weather service, and how I am planning on getting there. Sorry lad. production and publishing goes in about 3 months. But no. This is serious. I SENT WARNER BROS THIS IDEA WHEN MY BOOK CAME OUT..THEY RIPPED ME OFF>

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Did you write the description of your book too?

"A boy named Kevin watched a movie with his friend Mike. The movie inspired Kevin in the area of rocketry. With this, the National Rocket Base was born. A rocket launch facility is runned by Kevin and his friends. They test rockets, and develop new fuel. The last project was a solo man rocket. The shuttle was hit by a foreign lazer attached to a satellite orbiting around earth. No rockets were ready to save the shuttle. The government goes to Kevin, as he had the only rocket ready to blastoff. Kevin was the only one who knew how to fly it. Now it was a matter of life and death. If Kevin did not go up and help the shuttle, the crew would die. If he did, he may die himself trying."

If you did I can't imagine that anyone reading your book could actually gather any of the plot points that you mentioned. And according to Buy.com and Shop.com your book has been "published" by both PublishAmerica and Lightning Source, two BS companies that will "publish" any crap that has a resemblance to English.

If your only evidence is one supposed unsolicited email that you sent to Warner Bros. and a piece of trash book that you can only buy on the internet, then you have no case. I just hope you stop in time to prevent embarrassing yourself even further.

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It's not about the writing. 8 years into my first book. The idea was mine. Screw the moon, or mars. I kept it as a dreams book. A book where the kid and his friends lived their DREAMS.. I will not embarrass myself. I am the sole author of the idea. My lawyer said I have a good case. Ill be in with pen and paper writing EVERY MINOR DETAIL.

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Your lawyer likes you paying them. Ask to pay them a percentage of your winnings instead of the usual rate and see how good they think your case is then.

"Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity"
www.myspace.com/andrehill

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"My lawyer said I have a good case"

Oh ya? Lawyers say someone has a good case if they stub their toe on a darn misplaced skateboard.

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I personally think that the sole reason you're doing this is for money. Then again, greed seems to run rampant these days.

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You seem focused on the one man rocket idea...but those actually exist. You can't sue someone for using a concept that actually exists.

You need to prove that the studio stole something that was your specific idea. One man rockets won't do it.

Furthermore, based upon your plot description, the movie is not related to your movie in any significant sense. In fact, only the first few sentences of your book's description bare any resemblance to the film. You. Will. Not. Win. This. Case.

In all likelyhood the lawyer is fleecing you. Ask him to work on differed payment from your victory. If he agrees, maybe you have a case. But parallel development is not illegal. Volcano and Dante's Peak. Antz and A Bug's Life. Armageddon and Deep Impact. Turistas and Hostel.

,Said the Shotgun to the Head--
Saul Williams

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PS you can buy it at Barns N Noble, AND many bookstores. Not just the internet.

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I worked on the movie and have seen your book... Quite wasting your money on a lawyer feeding you $hit... Your story is NOTHING like the story in "Astronaut Farmer". It's like saying "Alf" is a rip off of "E.T."...

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Alf wasn't a rip off of E.T.???
I'm so disappointed that that was an original idea. :P


Arguing on the i-net is like running in the special olympics Even if you win you're still a retard.

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You worked on the movie? AND SAW MY BOOK??? What does that tell me?!!? My book was NOT very well known.....I am going forward with getting compensation from it. You boys better be ready to settle in court.

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Oh my gosh, you are SOOOO reaching... I had two lines with Bruce Willis and I checked out your book AFTER seeing this thread. Please, walk out your door and talk to a real human being... Cyber life has fried your brain.

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I won't let them rip me off. I sent them this in 2004. THey had to have altered it and added and removed stuff from my book. www.ontarioweatherservice.com/nrboutline.html

Too many similar things!

I will stand up for my author rights.

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get real loser.

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This simply has to be one of the funniest threads I have seen.
The best part being: I am currently writing a novel, and for some reason was under the impression that getting it published would prove to be difficult...
Boy, was I wrong...
I mean, if THAT got even NEAR a printing pressโ€ฆ
And to think that someone might actually have PAID 20$ for thisโ€ฆ Barnes and Noble! Thank god the book description gives an accurate idea...
Actually, I should forget about my book idea, compile this thread and have THAT published.

The Plagiarism conspiracy:

It is the sad but heartwarming story of a schizophrenic author convinced that he lives in an imaginary world where his bad writing is actual literary genius. This fantasy is reinforced by the fact that some nitwit company is actually willing to publish him and sell the result on the Internet. He further spirals into delusional paranoia when, by chance, his storyline fits the overall plot of a successful Hollywood movie. He is then taken down the garden path by a sleazy two-bit lawyer and loses everything he has, but in the process, becomes a universal source of mirth and laughter.

Once I get published, I encourage you to sue me for stealing the outline of your pathetic life.

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Js, impossible. My life is being published in 2 months man. Sorry. Called journals. I publish one every year from my life. I lead an interesting one. ONe you wouldn't be able to handle. I wo't let hollywood get away with my work. I have many people standing behind me on this. I will settle, but I want compensations. The book was published in 2004. No matter how good or bad the book was, ITS STILL A COPYRIGHT. To me of course, and I will protect my work.

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You publish a journal about your life every year? Dude, it's called a blog. Or is your goal to publish more unread crap than anyone else in history?

"Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity"
www.myspace.com/andrehill

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that made me laugh aloud, literally.

,Said the Shotgun to the Head--
Saul Williams

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Thanks for reminding me of this great thread, I've laughed aloud a few times myself today re-reading some of this stuff.

"Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity"
www.myspace.com/andrehill

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huh? If that's in reference to my quote, no, but I'm not dead yet either :)

"Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity"
www.myspace.com/andrehill

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Holy crap, I agree with the entertainment of this. This is like Jerry Springer or something. When I was ten or something, I wrote a story about talking babies. A while later, "Look Who's Talking" came out, and I was steamed that they stole my idea. That was when I had the intelligence of a 10 year old (forgive me for being normal). I will continue to monitor this wonderful story, because I can't wait to see how this turns out. It has me much more interested than "The Astronaut Farmer". And I have to admit, that if the whole point was to get anybody to hear of this book that is the "actual" source of this terrible looking movie, than I have been suckered into being somewhat curious about the book. It sounds great in a "Road House" or "Point Break" kind of way. I love the character of "the government". I picture the dudes from "The Matrix" that chase them all around. I hope we get more information on "the lawyer" soon. A picture a guy in a bad suit who constantly screams the phrase "We're gonna be rich!" Godspeed crazyman.

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I'd buy it if I wasn't already seeing it go down in real time for free.

"Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity"
www.myspace.com/andrehill

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I thought this might be a joke but any author who would write "Barns N Noble" has to be for real. I just hope the studio doesn't send alien hit men to off you so they don't have to pay you the money you so richly deserve. And watch out for the old chip in the head trick.

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Wow man.....just....wow! Is that the description, actual and true? Are you telling me that a self respecting internet retailer actually let that description get published on their site!?

I write professionally for a living, I get paid for it every week. I cop to being my editors worst nightmare, often what I write is thick with misspellings and punctuation errors. The reason I have my job is that even though there may be spelling and punctuation errors in my writings, I know how to string the right words together to make an entertaining sentance, and the right sentances together to make an entertaining paragraph and so on. Because of my lack of technical proficiency I am often left feeling like an idiot child when I hold myself in the same light as my colegues and co-workers. I console myself with the notion that "that's why the good lord made editors" but that type of thinking can only get a guy so far.

Sorry for all the tediousness of the last paragraph, but I told you all of that so I could say this. I FEEL SO GOOD RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!

I haven't laughed so hard since the first time I saw Borat. I've never felt so proud of my own ability since I won a nationwide screenwriting contest 2 years ago. Reading his book description has put in to stark relief the difference between a good writer who has problems with the technical side of the craft and an out and out retard. I was writing better than that by the third grade. I always told myself that if I were ever to write a book it would be silly to self publish it. Now that I see what company I'd be keeping if I were to go down that road, I know it'd be a case of downright rubber room worthy insanity!

I can't beleive this guy thinks he has a shot at winning a copyright infringment lawsuit against the producers of this movie. The fact that their script is recongnizably written in the english language already makes it so different from his book as to render such a suit completely and totally baseless. Later.

Mike

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Because based on this post I TOTALLY believe your story. Someone MUST be writing a check for snappy prose like that!

"NILBOG is Goblin spelt backwards!"

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First of all, check the time on that post, pretty late, eh? Also, there's the fact that this is an internet message board. I'm not trying to impress anyone here, I'm just trying to get a point across. I mentioned what I did for a living because it was pertinent to what I had to say. I wasn't looking for accolades from some internet peanut gallery, I was sharing a story and providing my response to the subject at hand. As far as you not beleving me, that is fine with me. I know that as far as you are concerned I am just some random fella on the internet, you have no reason to trust a word that I have to say. That being said, I know what it is that I do for a living, I know what is and isn't true about myself. I don't nessecarily need you to believe me.

I will say this though, if I wanted to seem so much the big shot I could have probably done a fair sight better than claiming to work for a small independant weekly on the outskirts of Reno/Tahoe, don't you think? I'm not saying I'm David Ansen or Roger Ebert here, I'm saying I get paid to write and that I have recieved some recognition from my peers for it. I'm no pulitzer prize winner or anything even remotely close. That being said, I don't have to pay someone else to publish my work, they pay me, which makes me a professional writer. All I was doing on this board was commenting on this topic in my capacity as such. Later.

Mike

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Judging by your two posts you just really like talking about yourself. If you got paid for that, you'd be a millionaire...

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There are too many items in this and related threads, so I'd just like to ask if the Buchwald vs. Paramount lawsuit was mentioned here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buchwald_v._Paramount <p> Buchwald pitched a script to Paramount that later became Eddie Murphy's "Coming to America". Important points: (1) Buchwald had a contract with Paramount. (2) He claimed that they used his IDEA without giving him credit. (3) Buchwald prevailed.

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Well if he wants to fund a program to predict storms in SoCal, then I'm all for it. I always wish that there was some sort of place I could go to find out the weather. Hey, that would be a great idea for a cable television station! If you see a weather oriented channel, remember that I had the idea first!

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And you should check your book against the copyright of "Salvage 1" becuase there are soooo many similarities that you mention compared to the movie/TV series. If you pursue a lawsuit, then get ready; the creators of "Salvage 1" have just as much reason to sue you

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You will never win man, i am from Argentina and i know the son of Eliseo Subiela, who made the film "hombre mirando al sudeste" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091214/ then in 2001 it come out "K-PAX" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0272152/ that is EXACTLY the same film. Eliseo contact the producers, lawyers involved, etc. But it cost a lot of money from here, and they have better and more lawyers. In the end, it was a waste of time.

Sorry for my bad english!

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There was a TV movie (later a show) called "Salvage 1" from 1979 with Andy Griffith

What I bet you didn't know is that the series was based upon the story of Bob Truax, the CEO of Truax engineering. In 1980 he had built a one man rocket at his home with the help of some financial backers and parts salvaged from NASA junkyards. At the time he was getting a lot of flack from the government, especially from NASA.

"You will not be saved by the god Plutonium. In fact, YOU WILL NOT BE SAVED!"

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They should totally sue rockstock for rippin' that idea from them. lol.

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So, uh, does your book lack proper punctuation as well?

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Yes, but that's not the point. A Copyright is in fact a copyright. These movie makers don't understand that. You can't take people's work without credit and compensation. You have to ask, or it will get rough. I will stand for all author's rights.

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Hey rockstock2004, I once read a book called the Terminal Man. In it, they discussed two characters who built a rocket in their barnyard and launched it into space. In fact, I think YOU SHOULD BE SUED for taking that idea from it.

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and a retard is a retard...nobody cares...

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Have you seen Star Trek: First Contact? The movie came out in 1996.It's about a guy building a rocket. I hope paramount doesn't sue you.

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Don't write about something. Just write.

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roflmao!!

"Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity"
www.myspace.com/andrehill

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I hope you win.
If it is proven that they stole ideas from your book. That just isn't right. People deserving should always receive it.

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Thanks Ethereal Lights. I forgot to mention the city my book was set in was NORCO,CALIFORNIA....HORSE town. And he has horses and building a rocket. I mean it's all too familiar.

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He's on a FARM, what do you expect?!? Lions and Tigers?

I seriously think you're a troll who's been taking us all for a ride with this BS, your attempts at comparison are just getting lamer and lamer....

"Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity"
www.myspace.com/andrehill

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Sadly, Kevin is serious about this. I think you can tell simply by the fact that he runs this hilarious site http://www.ontarioweatherservice.com which is his very own weather service for the Ontario, CA area. The website is so laughably lame that it ruins any attempts at legitimacy.

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From the weather site: "We called good enough chances of thunderstorms being the -26C and +6 fit our formula nicely."

At least his writing style is consistently bad.

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It's not about the writing style. It's about effort and accuracy put into it. Just like a women. Its not about the looks, it's about what they bring. Do you not get that???? OWS is the best out there. Featured on radio, news, newspapers, etc. We are the Next Generation weather forecasters.

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And a misogynist too!

,Said the Shotgun to the Head--
Saul Williams

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Excuse my Jamby? The Ontario Weather Service is the most ACCURATE and RESPECTABLE weather service in Southern California. We have TONS of subscribers, and all say we are the best of the best. We rule this area man. The work that has gone into the Ontario Weather Service forecasts will go above anything you will ever accomplish got me son?

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I just looked at http://www.ontarioweatherservice.com and I have a couple things to say about that. I'm a DEGREED Meteorologist, and the ONLY Meteorologists that have the authority to issue warnings/watches/advisories is the National Weather Service. Plus, the weather discussion is so lame that it does not EXPLAIN WHY the particular weather event is occuring. Where did you get your Meteorology Degree? If you do not hold a degree, then I would not call myself a Meteorologist in Charge, or even just a Meteorologist.

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Fireman. i am a native of Southern California. I have PROVEN to many that I am the best weather forecaster this area has ever seen. I have many people on my side. Fireman, Why would I explain why it's happening? I know that high pressure over the great basin shoves cold air toward the low pressure system off the socal coast. That pressure gradient produces the Santa Ana Winds here. Coming out of the canyons and passes. I do know what I am talking about. Do not challange me. I don't care what you, or anyone else has to say about AUTHORITY to give watches and advisories out. the NWS is not GOD in the weather, and I beat them all the time here. They aren't from Southern California alright? I am. I won't take a forecast from someone that DOESN'T KNOW THE CLIMATE. Micro climate of Southern California is a thing i've studied about on my own. I know where the Santa Ana Winds will hit hardest, and where they won't. I know where the rain will be the hardest, and who will see the lightest. You don't need a degree to know the weather. I have devoted 75% of my TIME and MONEY on forecasting Southern California weather for years. So not ever decredit me for what I have done. Featured in the news/newspaper/and radio, the Ontario Weather Service is the ONLY reliable forecast anyone will get. You said why don't I explain why the event is happening? SOMETIMES we do, but most people just want the forecast. They don't want words like, 850 Vertical Velocity along the frontal zone looks good for a rain event. THEY WON'T UNDERSTAND IT.

We will continue to grow, and help the viewers of Southern California plan their weeks/days, whatever the forecast period is. Thanks for your concern, but we have Southern California down.

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Well buddy, maybe if your non accredited weather site is so successful, maybe you should stick to that instead of selling your insane lawsuit through message boards. GREED being the key word here.

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Did you read his biography? It's a painful read but it says a lot about why he's making this thread so damn long. He seems somewhat autistic.
I can't believe how entertained I am by this thread. I should be ashamed of myself. lol
Leave poor Einstein alone! lmao!

you're wearing fish boots.

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Don't say that! As amusing as this thread (and the others he's posted his idiotic claims on) is, he's delusional enough and doesn't need any encouragement.

"Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity"
www.myspace.com/andrehill

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Calikid, don't be talking. You obviously don't understand people's rights and COPYRIGHT.. fact is my book is very much like this movie. Events that happen. My book, May 2004 was the official publish date. You are what you handle says. A KID. So kid, sit down, and let us adults handle this one. We authors won't let hollywood get away without asking permission.

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Yes I do, and I understand that while there are some similarities, it is nowhere near clear enough that you would ever get a judgement in your favor. There are plenty of movies that share as many similarities with other movies as this movie and your book do.

But, please, continue your rant, I am amused by it.


"Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity"
www.myspace.com/andrehill

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You're really funny, my friend. I hope you really do sue the production company over Copyright infringement. Warner Bros. will give you a very thorough education on what is and isn't copyright infringement.

-Bad waves of paranoia. Madness. Fear and loathing.-

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So I found this book at a store, read a bit,and promptly hid it in the bathroom and stole the toilet paper. OMFG this crap is horrible. I mean WTF did peter griffen teach you how to write stories. I hope you lose, and lose hard with the movie company suing you in the end. Then your legs grow together, and your fingers fall off.

In the words of a character from a tenacious D show LET THE DREAM DIE.
In the words of someone I heard heckle a crappy band HORAY YOU SUCK AGAIN!
btw thanks for the laugh.

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dude, it sounds like you STOLE the polish film. someone should sue you. lame ass post on myspace. i cannot believe you're claiming this to be yours. what's your wga number? library of congress? do you even have an agent? most likely not if you're soliciting on here.

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I am loving this. Can you please this life in your journal that somebody else "couldn't handle"? I want to hear some crazy cyber-story. And, no, writing that book doesn't count as crazy.

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STOLE?!?!1 WTF YOU TALKING ABOUT!!!! I GOT PUBLISHED IN 2004 YOU IDIOT!! I will take them down. I will be the Martin Luther King Jr of book writers. Stand up for your rights. Although I won't get shot at the end. What a perfect time for this to happen. During Black History Month. I will stand up for it. They better be cuting my check when im done with them.

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Yeah, let's all get in a circle and start singing "we shall overcome...."

Man, if you hadn't already demonstrated that you're functionally retarded I would reach through this computer and slap the sh*t out of you for that MLK reference. How dare you compare your petty bullsh*t with the civil rights struggle!

"Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity"
www.myspace.com/andrehill

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It is. It's just like that. Every day authors struggle because their work is exploited and stolen. At this second there is an author writing a book right now. that piece may be stolen by idiot hollywood movie makers down the line and that author doesn't even know it. I will not stop till I am heard. AN Author's rights march.

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I'm sorry, are authors second class citizens who can't eat at lunch counters and ride in the back of the bus? You book has about as much in common with this movie as two movies about turn of the century magicians do with each other.

"Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity"
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What about Rocket Guy in Corvallis Oregon?
NASA was sure interested in his attempts.

The idea of back wood of rocket builders is nothing new.
Sorry man, like it was mentioned, the barn, and the government's intervention is pretty base.

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jer, its not about the IDEA> Its about the book. It's a solid copyright. The work put into the story was 8 years. 2004 it was published finally. Walker didn't publish a book about that. His is just that. An idea. I pitched this to WB in 2004. Mysteriously it seems they now come out with something which in fact parts of my book have. Im the only one with pen and paper when this movie comes out probably to jot down points that were in my book. The amount I found with just the trailer is very interesting.

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rockstock, tell the truth. Are you related to Borat?

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No, i'm not related. Don't you guys get it? I published in 2004. This is a violation of my rights to my work. I am 22 not 15 so get that straight. I seek justice and truth.

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I agree with what someone said earlier. It appears that your lawyers are getting richer by the second while you appear more and more retarded. Ask your lawyer if he/she will accept a percentage of your winnings as opposed to anymore fees he/she may be entitled to. I promise you will have a hard time holding onto any lawyer. Give it up man, go back to your bad writing styles and make money off of that.

And shepherds we shall be, for thee my Lord for thee.
"Boondock Saints"

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You can't win unless they stole your STORY. "Ideas" cannot be copyrighted. The idea of a guy building a rocketship is not original enough; it's Jules Verne, for phuq's sake.

They woulda had to lift a significant portion of your actual PLOT and CHARACTERS, or else any lawsuit would be a complete waste of your time and money.

Did they steal your "ideas"? Who cares? Ideas are not protected. And Hollywood steals ideas all the time (everyone does). I speak from personal experience.

It's very hard to prove a copyright violation. Of all the high profile cases, I've never heard of anyone actually succeeding and making money. Even Art Buchwald lost money on his case.

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Actually, ideas can be protected. I don't know about copyrights per se but it's called intellectual property and if you have documentation that proves you had it first (dated correspondence or computer files, or in this case, a published manuscript) you have a legal case. I'm not arguing with your argument, just informing you.

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Ideas can not be protected by copyright. Read 17 USC 102 (b).

ยง 102. Subject matter of copyright: In general26
(a) Copyright protection subsists, in accordance with this title, in original works of authorship fixed in any tangible medium of expression, now known or later developed, from which they can be perceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated, either directly or with the aid of a machine or device. Works of authorship include the following categories:

(1) literary works;

(2) musical works, including any accompanying words;

(3) dramatic works, including any accompanying music;

(4) pantomimes and choreographic works;

(5) pictorial, graphic, and sculptural works;

(6) motion pictures and other audiovisual works;

(7) sound recordings; and

(8) architectural works.

(b) In no case does copyright protection for an original work of authorship extend to any idea, procedure, process, system, method of operation, concept, principle, or discovery, regardless of the form in which it is described, explained, illustrated, or embodied in such work.


Trust me, I deal with this all day.

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Plot and characters are not copyrightable either. There would have to be a portion where Billy Bob Throton's character says something word for word that the main character in the book in question says for this author to have a claim.

Copyright protects expression only.

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Perhaps you should be seeking help in punctuation, capitalization, and writing complete sentences. I find it hard to believe such a crappy writer could have published a book.

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roflmao...

this is one of the better threads on imdb in a long time. lol

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rockstock are you 15 or do you just play that role on the internet?

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i think dadahdee was right, i thought of salvage 1 the first time i saw the preview for this movie. if they ripped off anything, it was that.

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