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I'm confused by what other people are saying...


It seems that I see this movie in a completely different way than others. People were actually expecting answers in this movie...answers for what? Suicide Club was beautifully explained, you're not supposed to be confused or have questions after watching Suicide Club. There's no ''investigation'', or ''suicides'' (like the guy in the restaurant was saying, there's no ''Suicide Club''). If we're only talking about Suicide Club, the suicides are just a metaphore, or an exageration, of how the media, marketing or trends are affecting society and brainwashing people, causing them to lose their personnality, therefore dying inside. You just have to imagine that suicide became a trend, and everyone followed it, that's the exageration. Also, all the schoolgirls had cellphones, or everyone listened to the same damn music (dessert), that's a way of telling us that everyone is the same, no one has a ''self''.

But after seeing Noriko's Dinner Table, I'm confused...

This movie wasn't at all what I expected. To be honest, I was surprised that there was a sequel, because the first movie had already answered all the questions. One thing's for sure, while watching this movie, I was continuously telling myself : ''OMG, no one in this damn movie is connected, they're all in the Suicide Club''. And I expected one of the characters to finally wake up, but I don't think anyone did, or maybe one did... By accepting Kumiko as their mother or wife, Noriko and Tetsuzo were still deep in the Suicide Club, they completely lost their identity, even if Noriko knew she was Noriko. Yuka is the most interesting character in my opinion. I think that in the end, she wasn't yet fully connected to herself, but was on the right track. For example, she said that everyone looked like a lion to her, and she was a rabbit, meaning she is different from everyone else, she has a ''self''. And so she severed her ties with her family members to go do some soul-searching. And the soul-searching part is important, because saying you are different, that you are yourself, doesn't necessarily mean that you are connected to yourself; *self can be a concept that you conveniently borrowed under the logic that it would endow you with some sense of strength (a bit like what Noriko was doing throughout the movie).

*Thanks to Metal Gear Solid 2 Sons Of Liberty for this last sentence, haha =)

In the end, this movie isn't a ''sequel'', this isn't Suicide Club 2, this is Noriko's Dinner Table, just a little side-story. It's like a Resident Evil game ^_^ When you watch this, you're not watching a movie, you're watching what Sion Sono thinks about life, which is why he's a genius! In Noriko's Dinner Table, the suicides are also an exageration, the girls just do it because everyone else does, because it's kool, and people seek fake familiy members because they are super alienated by the Japanese lifestyle. Well, I hope you understand me (^o^)

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Noriko's Dinner Table was never meant to be Suicide Club 2, so if you think that it was then, you missed the entire point of the movie.

Because sponges never have bad days.

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Well, I think that Kumiko finds herself in playing the role. By the end of the movie, I think that Kumiko has become so far detached from the Family Circle thing that she is on a clean slate, just like Yuka. I dunno. The whole philosophy leaves so much room for discussion that it is impossible to find a definitive answer. But that's what I love about it =]

Who is more foolish - the child afraid of the dark or the man afraid of the light?

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obviously there are spiolers in this thred so don't redad if u don't wanna ruin anything for your slef!!!!


it seemed to me that by the end of the movie they had all woken up in some form or another... Yuka (who i agree, is most intresting character as well!) obviously woke up to the fact that she needed to find herself. That she was never the person she pretended to be back in her home town, nor was she a person that could deal with the life style in which Noriko and Kumiko lived. She finally understood her sisters need to find herself and relized that she needed the same.

Noriko finally relized that she wasn't mistuko, she was infact Noriko... and think think this kinda thing might be like when an addict relizes that they have a problem and it's supposed to be the first step to fixing it... well she had been lieing to herself for so long that it seems like relizeing that it was a lie would be the first step to waking up and finding the truth.

Kumiko was just so cut off from reality and alone that she had no one to be connected to other than herself... but something did kinda seem to snap inside of her at the end... but i think it was more of her losing touch with reality than really understanding it.

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I totally agree with you. I have no idea why everyone seems confused by Suicide Club. But Noriko's, as people have been saying, isn't a sequel, but a side story. We've already seen the story from the police, but not from some of the victims. and now we do!

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I totally agree with you. I have no idea why everyone seems confused by Suicide Club. But Noriko's, as people have been saying, isn't a sequel, but a side story. We've already seen the story from the police, but not from some of the victims. and now we do!

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I think you picked up a minor point in Suicide Club and ignored the Primary point of the movie.

Yes it was not about suicides. Trends? Somewhat.

But the most important point is to live one's own life(thereby connect to yourself). One can share one's thoughts with people, but ultimately one has to have free will and make the choices in one's life and do what one wants to be happy. That is the point of it and Noriko's Dinner Table further reveals it.

It's all there in Suicide Club's lyrics of all the songs.

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