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Is Christopher Nolan's Batman Trilogy MASSIVELY OVERRATED?


I personally think they are. People treat these movies like they are some of the greatest films in cinema history when they were mediocre at best.

Talk about an extremely pretentious trilogy about comic book superhero that dresses like a bat, drives a batmobile and fights crime that took the source material WAY TOO SERIOIUSLY.

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Only Nolanites really worship these movies. They made a lot of money when they came out because they landed during the superhero movie boom of the 00's and were better than Batman & Robin. Dark Knight is still quite good but the other two are mostly forgotten about aside from a few goofy memes here and there.

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"Only Nolanites"?.
What about the critics, the general public, the fans of the comics, the actors that starred in these films who have all praised these? Don't their opinions exist?
Also, Hulk, Catwoman, Daredevil, Punisher '04 and Elektra were released around the same time, but they didn't make a lot of money. Your argument this and the other films in the trilogy did because of the superhero movie boom in the '00s is complete nonsense.
They made money because Batman is a well known character that's part of pop culture. And the Dark Knight and Dark Knight Rises made money due to the goodwill gained from Batman Begins and the Dark Knight.
People saw them because they liked the films. Because they liked what Nolan was doing with the films.
It's not rocket science.

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The start of the 00s comic movie boom would include the first few Spider-Man, X-Men and Blade movies which all made a ton of money, were extremely popular and came out before Batman Begins. Also, Hulk and Punisher both made enough money to greenlight sequels even though they weren't critical hits but the sequels ended up being turned into reboots and came out years later. Oh, and the Hellboy movies had a cult following at the time too. By the time The Dark Knight came about, MCU was taking off with Iron Man and the like. The end of the trilogy came out in the same year as The Avengers. So yes, it was riding a wave of highly popular comic movies. And no, they're not talked about much anymore. Dark Knight Rises is kind of regarded as a weak movie with a lot of plot holes, a villain that was hilariously difficult to understand and bad fight scenes. It had the Bane memes for a year or two then the movie vanished. Meanwhile, how often do you hear people say anything about Batman Begins? It was a good movie but not all that groundbreaking.

The Dark Knight was the only one that really stood the test of time. It was a really great movie sandwhiced between an average movie and a "meh" movie.

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The first movie was a big surprise and it employed a lot of ingenuity. Batman didn't kill and they set up his gadgets in a fun way.

The second had a good performance from Leger. The rest of the movie was just background noise.

The third movie is garbage juice. Hardy was a good choice but the movie sucked.

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You nailed it.

Ledger made TDK, but the other performances were good as was the script. Tho I will acknowledge a few missteps in the script.

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I can't write off the whole trilogy as pretentious or bad. The first two films were really good! Overall, I do think they're a touch overrated and I prefer Burton's films, but Nolan did do (two) good Bat-movies.

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I would say yes, they are not bad films though, I would rate them like this:

Dark Knight 8.5/10
Batman Begins 6.5/10
Dark Knight Rises 6/10

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Then what movie is better than this one?

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If you really think this, tell that to the fans of the comics. They'll vehemently tell you Batman is a dark and serious character. He's meant to be a brooding avenger of crime. A Batman movie that isn't serious is unfaithful to the character and the source material.
Also avoid the Burton films and the recent film that was released a few months ago. They are serious, with the most recent being even more serious than this film.
Stick to the Schumacher films and the Adam West film from the 60s. If you do, forget the criticisms that people have against Batman Forever and Batman and Robin. Because you can think that no matter the reputation those films have, especially Batman and Robin, the people that criticised them are wrong. Because those films aren't pretentious. Those films adhere to your concept. And they are the Batman films you can enjoy. You just have to go against the grain and ignore what everyone else has said about them. Because they don't know as much as you.

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I agree. And I also blame Nolan's ponderous pretentiousness with an English accent that makes people believe even his farts have meaning.

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I think they're terrible. I think they're poorly written, poorly filmed, well edited, and have punchy soundtracks. It's slick shit.

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