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I don't like the tumbler.


I kept hoping that the tumbler was just an early experimental vehicle, and that by the end of this saga, as Batman refined his tech and designs, he would have an actual sleek-looking and stylish Batmobile.

But it never happened. :/

Gotham City is also pretty ugly, but that's a topic for another day.

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I wasn't a fan of it either, in the past. But I've come around to actually like it now. It looks stronger than Affleck's batmobile, imo. They most likely decided to keep it as simple and tank-like looking as possible, due to how grounded on realism the franchise was.

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Define to me "actual skeek-looking and stylish Batmbolie". What version of the Batmobile is that? The Batmobile does not have a definitive version in the comics. It always varied from one thing to another. At first, it was just a regular car from the 30s. Then it gained its more identifiable features with wings and stuff, and it was changing through time. In the 70s Batman run, Neal Adams designed Batmobile as a blue chevy. And that's how it looked until 90s. But I assume you're talking about the Batmobile from the Tim Burton's movies. Which, yes, looks great, but why does Batmobile in Nolanverse need to look like that version of that vehicle if that version, just like Nolan's, was its own thing, not inspired by the comics? Tim Burton's Batmobile was an original creation, not inspired by the comics. The comics adopted that look for the Batmobile later, but they did not invent it. So why should Nolan's Batman emulate the style of other movies which were creating their own style?

"Gotham City is also pretty ugly,"

You mean one of the most crime-filled cities in all the comics is ugly?

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No, in fact I'm not just talking about the Burton version of the car. The majority of Batmobile versions in the comics have tended toward a sleek, streamlined look: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/batman/images/e/ee/Batmobile_page.png/revision/latest?cb=20110108023148&format=original

And I like my Gotham City to have a dark, haunting, gothic quality of beauty to it.

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That's where you're wrong, buddy. Like I said, from the 70s fro the late 80s, Batman's iconic vehicle look like a re-purposed blue chevy. The dark, stealthy look came into comics after Burton's movies. And Nolan's Batmobile is made in the vein of those vehicles. Yes, it's bulkier (because, apparently, it was based loosely on the Bat-tank from The Dark Knight Returns), it doesn't have wings on its sides, but it's still a very unique vehicle. It has a stealthy design and is highly functional. Which is what Batmbolie should be at its core.

"And I like my Gotham City to have a dark, haunting, gothic quality of beauty to it."

I'm not sure if the words "dark, haunting" and "beautiful" can make a very good pair. And I think you're thinking of the Burton's movies again. Gotham of the comics did not have that monstrous, abstract look that Tim Burton's movies had. It was a pretty ordinary looking megalopolis. Look at this drawing by the legendary Jim Aparo:

http://townsquare.media/site/622/files/2010/06/greatbatman09.jpg

Looks like an ordinary city to me.

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Note that I said nothing about "stealthy" when it comes to the car. I said "sleek, streamlined." The majority of batmobile examples in my link have a sleek, aerodynamic design of one kind or another, rather than the blocky tank-like look that the Dark Knight trilogy went with.

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Yeah, I'm glad we agree on this now.

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I prefer the surreal Batman Returns, but making things "realistic" could have worked better if the dialogue hadn't been so childish and try-hard.

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It'SH WHAT I DOOOOOOOOOO THAT DEFINES ME!!

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