I wasn't sure what to expect. But it wasn't bad at all. I have watched a few of the other fan projects that use the green screen and I wasn't impressed and had a hard time taking any of those characters seriously. This was much better than those. Everybody says it gets much better throughout the series, so I'm looking forward to watching the rest. I was surprised to see that Gabrielle guy make an appearance. lol
shareThe important thing is to ignore certain Arrogant Gnomes (Tony!) and form your own opinion... enjoy the rest!
shareI'm glad you've enjoyed our efforts so far. "That Gabriel guy" also makes an appearance in our sixth or seventh season as well.
shareI"m about to start on season 5. It gets better with each season.
shareWe think so, too. We were further along the learning curve in the later seasons, and could not only do the basic stuff more skillfully, we could also risk trickier things in the way of makeup, special effects, and so forth.
I'm glad that you're still enjoying our efforts. Perhaps you will like our later video and audio-only efforts as well, but finish HF first, as the other projects tend to be continuations of the story lines established in Hidden Frontier.
Yeah I can definitely see the difference at this point to the earlier seasons. I also like the fact that it uses different characters rather than the exact same cast throughout it's run. It keeps it fresh. Captain Shelby is one of my top favorite characters. And not too hard on the eyes I might add :D. I like your character a lot as well. I noticed you don't get as much screen time as time goes by, but I see your name all over the credits so I guess you had your hands full behind the scenes.
When I downloaded the series, I think a year ago or so, I downloaded everything else on the site also, so I have all the other series as well as the audio stuff. I guess there's been a bunch of new episodes added since then so I'll eventually download and make discs of those as well.
For about a year, I was hardly on-screen at all: I was spending all of my time with my wife in the hospital. After that, I think they wanted to concentrate on the main love interests rather than the relationship between Henglaar and Elbrey.
But yes, they keep you hopping even behind the scenes. As the makeup department got more skilled, the makeup requests got more complicated. Which required that we expand the makeup department. Which meant I was now management as well as a makeup artist and actor . . . [wry smile]
On the whole, while I would have preferred a bit more plot development on Elbrey and Henglaar, I think we did a pretty good job. While not every actor's part might have been as large as they wanted (is it ever?), we also made certain that each actor got to do more than simply open hailing frequencies all the time.
We had fun doing it, which was the main point, and a surprising number of people enjoyed what we did, which was a nice bonus. If we ever do it again, I want to be on that crew.
Yeah that would've been interesting with the whole Henglaar/Elbrey angle. I recently watched the episode with Hanglaar's ex who married that klingon. As far as relationships go, so far from what I"ve seen it's mostly the whole Astor/Ro teaser. But it did seem like a lot of different cast members got their chance to shine which was good. I don't remember if I'd asked this before, but are there a lot of characters on this show that end up on Odyssey or helena chronicles or any of the other programs? I saw a screen shot with Shelby on one of the other programs. I guess it was either the Intrepid or Betashield. Can't recall which one. All of which I have on disc so I'll get to it eventually.
shareThe Entanglements two-parter featured real-life husband and wife Jim and Susan Fox-Davis as Q'Qul and Su, the Klingon/Tellarite couple.
Many of our characters ended up in Odyssey or Helena Chronicles, but by no means all of them. Others had short appearances, but were not regulars.
Some of our actors (Adam, Jennifer Cole, Sharon Savene, Julia Morizawa and myself among them) ended up on the new shows, but in different roles.
We've also done several little crossovers, such as appearances on Intrepid and Phase II (James Cawley also played a part in one of our episodes), or full crossovers such as Beta Shield.
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I was too, originally. Hated even to have my picture taken.
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I originally hated being photographed because still images invariably captured me at just the wrong moment. And still or motion, cameras are forever. (That may be why some actors hate blooper reels.) When I'm playing a part, especially one with heavy makeup, I'm less anxious about such things, although I don't really understand why it's different.
I think I can understand why some people crave the camera; although an amateur, I enjoy my moment in the sun as much as any other actor, now. The difference between a good actor and a ham is that a good actor understands that except in one-man plays, it's not about him. It's about the ensemble. A good production is like a good orchestra: it's only when it comes together as a whole that you get the full effect. An orchestra with a trombone player who thinks he's the most important part of the music ruins the effect.
A ham thinks he's the most important part of the production; that everyone else is there solely to support HIM. You don't have to be a professional to see this, and you don't even have to be an actor. You can see it in professional productions, community theatre, and high school productions, company skits, and pretty much anywhere someone puts on a performance. Like the conceited trombonist, he ruins it for everyone. That kind of person forgets that he's on a team, and that the team's performance is damaged when any team member does less than what they are supposed to do, or does something that takes attention away from someone else's performance.
It really doesn't help at all that actors, as a group, tend to be neurotic.
(Edited to add:) I almost forgot: Thank you for the compliment. I don't think I'm a particularly good singer, but I enjoy doing it anyway.
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I had no idea so much controversy would develop in a thread I made about season 1
share[shrug] Our stalker attempts to create controversy where there is none. He has never explained why he's dedicated eleven years of his life and more to attacking us, but he appears to want to destroy us. Given that he's been at it for eleven years and we're still here, you can see how effective his apparent efforts have been.
I've got him on my Ignore list. I got tired of hearing the same old thing and making the same old responses time after time.
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I think technically, the term is not "was not" but "wannabee".
Nor do I think he ever suffered from serious depression, either clinical or situational. He has never shown any of the symptoms of depression. You can bet that if he ever did have depression, he never sought treatment for it. He would think it was a sign of weakness to have depression, so he'd never admit it. And of course, he would never believe that it takes courage to seek treatment; seeking treatment just proves that you're weak, so you'd better hide it, especially if it's true.
As a result, his whole mindset is based on lying. Do you have an emotional or mental illness? Better lie about it, because it's a weakness. Did you make a mistake? Better lie about it, because only the weak make mistakes. Do you have your facts dead wrong? Better lie about it, because it's a weakness to let anyone else know that you know you're wrong. And of course, that means that you can never admit that anyone else is right, because that's an admission you were wrong, too. Apologies are right out of the question, because it's two signs of weakness: only the weak apologize, and only the weak admit that they were wrong.
Thus, his machismo will not permit him to admit to any imperfection, and someone taught him that it is far better to lie than be honest. Because being honest is something only weak people have to do. To look strong all the time, you have to lie.
Imagine being trapped in that kind of mindset all of your life. You and I have choices. He has none. You and I can show "weakness" if we choose; he cannot. It's very sad, because a person who has choices can change. He cannot ever change. It took me many years to realize that, and that while he cannot change, I can.
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I'm surprised that he had the courage 1) to admit he had a problem and 2) to seek help. They are two very difficult steps for anyone to take, and I applaud him for it. Thus far, it is the only thing I've found admirable about him.
Which makes me even more disappointed at the hostility he shows towards anyone else who shows similar courage.
I respectfully differ: I don't think it's mere laziness at all. There's an almost neurotic desperation in his fabrications that mere laziness doesn't explain. And of course, a lazy man wouldn't have spent eleven and more years of his life harassing others. It's simply too much effort.
I have heard that many years ago, he was a different, more likeable man. I wish I'd met him then, instead.
It's best to simply ignore him. This thread was originally about a fan's opinions of season one of Hidden Frontier. Let's return to that.
So, what did we get right? What did we get wrong? You've moved on to subsequent seasons, Jayhn1111; do you have any opinions on them yet?
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Opinions vary on any show out there. I've seen enough of the series to form my own opinion. Besides, It's too late to try and discourage me from watching it. I'm already 3/4 done with the series.
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I'm really not understanding why you took my post as any kind of personal attack. I was not childish or defensive in any way shape or form. I simply said that opinions vary and that I'm already 3/4 done with the series so I'm not gonna stop watching at this point. There was nothing personal or defensive about it.
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It never would've ocurred to me that that could be seen in any way as a personal attack. Suit yourself
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