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Loretta and the showering blonde(spoilers)


So heres a question that my wife and I were pondering after the movie. Now we know that Kimberly was killed, hoever, Older Stan also has visions of Loretta as well as the girl who Bob phostographs in the window being murdered as well. Are we to assume that between the past and the present, that Bob actually murdered these 2 women, or is Older Stan just so traoumitized by what he saw when he was younger that he just imagines that happening to all women.

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I think that the most likely answer is a mixture of the two options. Stan would have no way to know if bob had later killed Loretta and the blond girl or not, being locked up in an institution. However, knowing that Bob had taken pictures of the girls, it would be reasonable for Stan to subconsciously suspect that they had later been killed, and to imagine them being killed in the same way that he knew Kimberly was.

The only potential problem with my theory is that he also imagined the homeless woman being killed in the same way, and I don't remember her being in the photos. However, that murder was in a 'dream' within his memory, while his visions of Loretta and the blond girl were while he was 'awake'.

Update: Did he also picture the doctor having her throat slit just after he was given the drug? If so, that could also be a problem with my theory. I only finished watching the movie less than two hours ago, you'd think that I wouldn't have so much trouble remembering a detail like that!


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Many "normal" (not even on legal or illegal drugs) people daydream\hallucinate seeing those around them--strangers, colleagues, friends & family--appearing harmed, whether from insect bites, vehicle run-overs, gunshots, hardware to the head, or some other sort of mayhem on a daily basis. (Others more often "see" calamities on a macro scale: exploding buildings, UFOs, crashing planes, etc.) With "The Man" aka Stan presumably on serious meds during his 15 years of institutionalization, he probably had dozens of throat-slitting visions during the time frame of the movie which were edited out or not filmed at all for the sake of concise story-telling. Visions involving Loretta and the exhibitionist topless lady in the shower (the open window conceals her below her ribcage) both were highly relevant to the plot. As for the old crone in the junk yard, one must assume the filmmakers screwed up with her: 60ish Stanley (played by Bix Barnaba) appears in an alternate ending, watching 30-year-old Stan reunite with mom Cheryl through the living room window. The credits list this Stanley as "old hobo." Filling in the blanks, one can guess--Canadian justice being what it is--that serial killer Bob would be on the streets well before this alternate ending occurs, driving the "reformed" Cheryl of 30-year-old Stan vintage back to booze till SHE lost the house and became a street person, where future paroled Bob tracked her down at the junkyard's communal campground and slit her throat, leaving the friendless Stan in permanent hobohood, with only other Stanleys for company. Not understanding all of this, DARKROOM's harried film editor forgot to cut this junkyard set up scene when the current ending erased 60-year-old Stan from the movie.

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shower girl is loretta

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shower girl isn't loretta. It was surpose to be but the actress playing Loretta didn't want to do the nude scene so shower girl is another character. Just listening to the audio commentary now for the movie and they talk about it.

I think that the visions "the man" has of Loretta and shower girl being killed are just his mind playing tricks i don't think Bob killed them coz when "the man" is sleeping he sees a homeless lady being "killed" don't think Bob had anything to do with her.

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