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I hate how heroines showing patience + endurance is supposed to be bad


There is nothing wrong with taking whatever life throws at you with a cool head and using what resources you have already, exactly like what the old princesses did.

Fighting for ____ is a common and highly overrated theme, not a very wise one either. You can't "fight" for everything. that's just asking for trouble. Cinderella was stronger and wiser than any of these so called "cooler" new princesses. She knew when to wait and when to try to get something. Taking charge is sometimes just running foolishly facefirst into trouble without stopping to think logically about what to do, if anything, first. I am so sick of Disney cramming the whole "being patient sucks, let's go after whatever we want no matter how dangerous or dumb an idea this is and tell off anyone in our way!" thing down our throats. Being passive is not always bad, often it's smart. Each generation gets more demanding, rebellious, selfish and impatient so the very idea of passivity gives them the shivers.

And honestly, I'm not sure where disney critics see "passivity" and "weakness" and lack of indendence (another highly overrated virtue in disney) in the classics. Hmm, let's see:

-Snow White was smart enough to ask for help when things were beyond her control (unlike how modern heroines try to control everything and get mad when it doesn't go their way). Other than that she doesn't depend on everyone to carry her on a pillow. She finds herself a job by logically offering the skills she had that the dwarfs lacked, then unlike most DPs didn't pine over her Prince. She was wise and confident enough to know he'd find her, didn't need to chase him like a desperate fool.

-Cinderella... not sure how she isn't independent. She does all the work herself and enjoys being by herself. She asks for no help but because she deserves it is given some nonetheless. I'm noticing a running theme among Disney fans/critics- they seem to take offense at the very idea of a woman needing help, mostly from a man. Sexist much?

-Aurora. She loves spending time alone independently in the forest but realistically longs for love and companionship after having no one to talk to but three old ladies and animals for 16 years. She would like more freedom like Belle, but like Belle, is too loyal to go after it.
Odd how while they have that same thing in common, Belle is considered the "independent feminist" and Aurora is the weak "damsel".

So yeah. I think the critics and haters of the old Princesses use absolutelyno logic or critical thinking skills and should probably stop now

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I Agree!

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I agree, but at the same time, I think the point of this movie was to shut down perceptions that a girl can't do "badass" things even if she prefers a peaceful story. The film isn't saying "the old story was lame", it's saying "You don't think she can handle danger or difficulty on her own? Let's play your game, then".
Cinderella III: A Twist in Time is just another story using the same characters from the same universe-it's a sequel that's got heart and clever storytelling. It doesn't crap on the original or insult the intelligence of the viewer; it keeps everyone in-character, fleshes them out, and still manages to do its own thing.

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