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He *was* kind of a bad boyfriend


I'm going to preface this with yes, she's a psycho, emotionally unstable, and abusive.

BUT.....

He was kind of a BS boyfriend. It's not like her accusations came out of nowhere. He did love someone else, he did want to have sex with Anna Farris, he was only dating Uma because Farris had a boyfriend, and he did sleep with Anna right after the breakup. They're both pretty atrocious people.

And this movie is the loosest interpretation of the genre "comedy" since "The Savages."

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You hit on a good point.Not only did he come across as being a BS boyfriend,he was a bit wishy-washy too,not knowing what he really wanted.At 1st Matt seems pretty infatuated w/Jenny esp.after the 1st sexual encounter declaring her very hot and wanting to continue the relationship even when his friend tries to ralk him out of it.He does kinda lead her on making her think he really cares for her agreeing to keep her G-Girl identity secret.I think at one point in the relationship,he was developing feelings for her but after the incident in the car,any growing romantic feelings are killed right there.He really came across as wishy washy as here was a guy w/o a girl in 6 months who finally seemed to be having the time of his life w/Jenny and enjoying a joy ride in the sky w/her only to tell his friend he doesn't really love her.Jenny is portrayed as unstable,but Matt also showed signs of instability by apparently wanting to be w/Jenny at 1st then deciding to go w/Hannah.Even though Jenny went to extremes w/her revenge,in some ways her anger was justified and her accusations right on target.

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"You hit on a good point.Not only did he come across as being a BS boyfriend,he was a bit wishy-washy too,not knowing what he really wanted.At 1st Matt seems pretty infatuated w/Jenny esp.after the 1st sexual encounter declaring her very hot and wanting to continue the relationship even when his friend tries to ralk him out of it.He does kinda lead her on making her think he really cares for her agreeing to keep her G-Girl identity secret.I think at one point in the relationship,he was developing feelings for her but after the incident in the car,any growing romantic feelings are killed right there.He really came across as wishy washy as here was a guy w/o a girl in 6 months who finally seemed to be having the time of his life w/Jenny and enjoying a joy ride in the sky w/her only to tell his friend he doesn't really love her.Jenny is portrayed as unstable,but Matt also showed signs of instability by apparently wanting to be w/Jenny at 1st then deciding to go w/Hannah.Even though Jenny went to extremes w/her revenge,in some ways her anger was justified and her accusations right on target."

Hello. It's me again. My comment on your take with Matt being a "bad boyfriend", and your assessment in general: Not quite. Matt was simply making the best of the situation that existed - dating a super-powered female who was jealous, needy, neurotic, and psychotic - unstable on all counts - while he hid his feelings for his secret crush, Hannah (this was assumed before the viewer began watching the film, according to write-ups about it - Matt had wanted to be with Hannah all along, well before Jenny/G-Girl entered the picture).

As for the joy ride in the sky - this was the first time that Jenny abused her powers, since she wanted to have an in-flight sexual encounter (it was JENNY who initiated their first encounter of this type, by the way, not Matt), stating that "she always wanted to try this", while Matt did not agree to do so, but he was airborne with only Jenny holding him up, so he had no choice (I think that is borderline rape). In short, it was JENNY who was leading Matt on (she knew that she had super powers, and that by using them, she could keep Matt to herself, even if he did not want to be with her - this is the manipulative and abusive side of the person that eventually came out when she exacted her revenge for the break-up) , not the other way around.

Lastly, what Matt felt - or did not feel - for Jenny/G-Girl is not unusual - both genders go through this every day, expressing that they do not feel the same way about the other persons that those persons do about them. The anger and behavior of Jenny/G-Girl were extreme, but certainly not justified - inexcusably detestable and cruel are more accurate here.

Anyhow, that's my take, and I'm consistent. You take Jenny/G-Girl's side, and I'll always respect that, and I'm sure that you'll respect my perspective as well (you've done so in every case to date), since we're on opposite ends of the scale regarding "My Super Ex-Girlfriend."

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Dan as always I respect your input and opinion.The joy ride in the sky scene,imo is another hole in the plot.Matt whispers in Jenny's ear about something he's always wanted to try right then she goes off,switches to G-Girl and whisks him away.I'm assuming he whispered that he wanted to try having a sexual encounter with her in the sky.Then when she starts putting the move on him up in the sky,he's somewhat reluctant.The hole in the plot is if Matt whispered to Jenny he wanted to have a sexual encounter w/her in the sky,why did he seem hesitant once she put the move on him?This is one example of him possibly being wishy washy.As always I enjoy your input,Dan.

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he wanted her to wear the g-girl outfit not have sex in the sky, that was something she wanted to do

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Im going with the opinion that he wanted her to try the outfit on AND have sex, but not in the sky. So its hard to say whether or not its rape really... though he did say "No" quite a few times, hed previously suggested sex.

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No way--if you want to watch a loose interpretation of "comedy", watch The Last Kiss starring Zach Braff.

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I am inclined to agree with your main point.

Jenny certainly was needy and neurotic, but you could see that as the natural outcome of the lonely burden she was bearing as G-Girl. A boyfriend who actually cared about her would have been a respite from that, a port in the storm. Someone to share what she was going through, not just get off on it. Certainly that's what she was looking for. If Matt had brought a little compassion to the relationship, she probably would have become more stable as a result.

This is all silly of course, because what the characters do is necessary to the premise of the movie. But interesting to talk about.

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That's no excuse! Everybody has character flaws. You don't have to go psycho, just leave!

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T

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No 'kind of' He WAS a bad boyfriend, and a bad person. He just was not likeable at all. He accused her of being needy and manipulative when he was only going out with her in order to screw her, and was willing to lie throughout the movie in order to get that from her even though he didn't like, didn't respect her, and was frankly afraid of her. A man who's afraid of a woman is not hot.

Also, there's the issue of HANNAH'S character also being needy and manipulative; it was she who called and left a message on his answering machine about how she really needed to talk to him she was in trouble......................... and all it was was her catching Steve in bed with three chicks. Ginny at least had the weight of the world on her shoulders. Hannah was just ... Hannah.

And the main character was a dick.

I didn't like the best friend. I wish they had gone all the way with making him a closet gay who was really in love with him, instead of the cut scene with the girl; make it with a guy in that scene. Making him a closet gay would have least had some nice echoing paralleling between Ginny and Bedlam. But no.

The most compelling person in the whole movie was actually Bedlam. And even he was a stalker, but at least there was background to his stalking and the movie didn't make excuses for his bad choices -- he was the supervillain. No one else had that excuse. How sad is that?

This entire movie was a waste of time for everyone involved (except for the origin scene).

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Actually if you look closer at the early stages of Matt and Jenny's relationship,it appears Matt was beginning to develop feelings for her as in the case when she got hit by the car and his very big concern for her.And if acting is any indicator,The scenes w/Matt and Jenny when they're were together show them really enjoying themselves together as if here were 2 people enjoying themselves more than they had for a long time by themselves.The scenes w/Matt and Hannah do not come across very well and seem forced,even though Matt claims she's the one he really "loves".This is one of the film's major flaws as we see more enjoyment between Matt and Jenny than we do Matt and Hannah.It could simply be that Luke and Uma had a better acting chemistry between them.Any romantic feelings between Matt and Jenny are disrupted with the car window smashing scene.And there is some truth about Hannah being manipulative.She moves in on Matt in the restaurant when Jenny/G-Girl got called away,then later when she tells him about what happened with her boyfriend.Later when Matt is trying to fool Jenny into getting back together to strip her of her powers,she butts in again.Hannah was imo nothing more than a one-dimensional character who kept getting in the way.The film wouldve been better to try another ending approach and forget about Hannah altogether.

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While I know this post will probably die in oblivion because the original topic is old...I feel compelled to post my thoughts.

I agree with danesnowden.

We can't call Matt a horrible boyfriend while giving a pass to Jenny/G-Girl. While Matt did become indecisive and weak in his approach to Jenny...there are clear reasons as to why. As pokey867 said to another poster, there are indications that Matt and Jenny were beginning to develop a decent relationship until Jenny showed her possessive nature. I felt this was the deal breaker for them and the only reason for Matt's indecisiveness at this point was Jenny's superpowers and obvious possessive nature. I personally thought his reservations about breaking it off and fear of her reaction were well founded considering the way she broke the glass in the car.

Could he have stayed with her to work out her issues? It's hard to say. This isn't like most comic book scenarios where there are several other superheroes running around who could act as a therapeutic option for them. There were no superhero psychology groups for her. She saw someone she could confide in and ultimately got super possessive of this person and thus began to treat him more as an object rather than a person. I don’t see how he had any other options other than to want out of the relationship at that point.

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No 'kind of' about it. He was awful.

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He didn't love Jenny. That's not a crime. He loved Hannah. That's not a crime. Jenny was neurotic and nuts. Xx

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He was a bad BF. Jenny was crazy but, he was in it just for the thrills and until he could bang Hannah.

Hannah was upset about her BF cheating? She would have cheated on him in a second. She had been making moves on Matt throughout the movie.

The only time Matt did something nice for Jenny, was when he was about to screw her over. He did not at all seem appreciative that she just SAVED him and the city from a dangerous missile? LOL

Jenny had some problems but, Matt and Hannah were complete jerks.

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I have to disagree. While I remember him being indecisive between the two girls, It should be noted that Matt WAS in love with Jenny first, but she was already dating someone else. Jenny was Matt trying to move on from her and starting a relationship with a woman he thought he could make it work with. Jenny ruined all that with all of her issues, and as far as I am concerned, Jenny was unjustifiably vindictive, abusive of her power, and should have lost her powers permanently in the end.

Plus, trying to say he was a bad boyfriend to her is unfair, and similar to blaming a stalking victim.

Finally, If the roles had been reversed, would you try to say Jenny was a bad girlfriend??

If anyone agrees/disagrees, please reply.

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I agree, Nephlim14.

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Exactly. Reverse the genders and see what the posters in this thread have to say then.

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