You're judging a movie based on its animation? Doesn't anyone care about the storyline anymore?
It's such a pity that some people are only concerned about who's in it and whether its "special effects" are good...
"You're judging a movie based on its animation?"
Well it is an animated movie... makes perfect sense to me. Why bother seeing an animated movie if the animation sucks? I haven't seen this movie yet, but it doesn't look promising.
If you could boil down the definition of a cartoon to one concept could you do it?
It's not "story"; that can be done much better in novels and live action movies.
A cartoon is a funny drawing.
Igor isn't a funny drawing is it.
Animation does not a cartoon make.
It's like saying why bother seeing any film if the film quality sucks. I guess we shouldn't bother with any films from the 70s and earlier then. Why go see any films that aren't in colour. Hell, why go see any films that aren't in 3D when that's possible with today's technology?
I guess Toy Story is now a bad film because the animation is out-dated.
And story can be done equally as well in an animated movie as in a live action movie. See Grave of the Fireflies or almost any Pixar effort for proof.
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"Animation does not a cartoon make."
Was that a sentence?
You completely missed my point. First off, I love classic films more than modern films. And what I meant was, if the artists can't draw, why bother with the film?
Cartoons are visual. If the drawing aren't funny, they failed. The Looney Tunes had great drawings.
And yes, animated films are able of telling great stories... to bad very few have GREAT stories.
I advise you actually read my last post. In no way was I bashing classic Hollywood, especially since I consider those films superior.
I don't think it's correct grammar, it's just a commonly used phrase.
"____ does not a _____ make."
I know you weren't bashing classic Hollywood. I was just drawing a comparison. You didn't say you didn't like the character designs in the film, just the animation quality itself.
And not all animated films are comedies. When they are, they often choose to draw comedy from places other than the character designs. I agree that it helps to have funny looking characters in a comedy, but it's not 100% essential.
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I should have said I didn't like the design of the film in my first post... but I also don't like the animation in this film as well. Everything feels kinda watered down and cheap, and no imagination was put into it. Plus, they got a (kinda) A-list cast, and in my experience that's never good in an animated film.
True, not all animated films are comedies... but I'll be damned if 99% are.
I'm used to having funny drawings in my cartoons anyway, so it kind of becomes a requirement for me.
"It's not "story"; that can be done much better in novels and live action movies. "
Question, SlashHalen. Do you understand film? Like really understand it, as an art form? Anyone who does would understand that the way the film is presented means NOTING to its capabilities for story and such.
Watch an animated movie from the 80s. Don Bluth's stuff, like An American Tail, The Land Before Time, or The Secret of Nimh. There are some great examples. Or Pixar's movies, the depth and emotion that those animated films evoke.
In America, only so many people understand that animation has just as much potential as anything else. Here, cartoons are either kids shows or dirty comedies. Do something for me, will ya'? Find, somehow, a show called Death Note. It's a Japanese anime, and it is the single most intelligent show I have ever seen in my life. Watch a few episodes. Then tell me this crap about cartoons being limited to "a funny drawing."
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"Well it is an animated movie... makes perfect sense to me. Why bother seeing an animated movie if the animation sucks? I haven't seen this movie yet, but it doesn't look promising."
By that logic the South Park movie should've been an abortion but it wasn't.
In a world where funny quotes are at the end of every message. Coming Soon to a Theatre near you
I agree with you...the moral and the stories plot are what is meant to grab you...of course some people have lost the grasp on that whole point.
::Voice is the music of thy soul::
I took my 4 year old and my 7 year old and they loved it. It had a great message!
shareSomeone in the other posts mentioned Hoodwinked and how it's animation is way worse, but I laughed my teeth out with that movie and I even watch it again every now and then. You have to understand that some people go more for the animation and others for the plot. That's just how it is and we shouldn't judge either of them. I myself am maybe in the middle, because I just can't really enjoy a movie if it's animation REALLY sucks and I can't enjoy a movie if the animation is superb, but the script is stupid.
P.S. Igor is BY FAR NOT with bad animation, not the best, but... when I watch old animated series that they show on TV I'm so amazed at the CG that we have today, even if it's not THAT good.
You're judging a movie based on its animation? Doesn't anyone care about the storyline anymore?
It's such a pity that some people are only concerned about who's in it and whether its "special effects" are good...
I agree 100% on what the TC brought up. I also hold the same respect to Video games as well, where people judge a game/film by graphics instead of telling a great story. It's asinine. If pretty graphics are what you want, go read a comic strip or something.
It's days like this - Walt Disney and Don Bluth are sorely missed on the filmmaking front.
Whatever happened to traditional animated films anyway?
"Stupid Banana-Raincoat-Wearin' B****."
Um... comics have more to them that just pretty graphics.
For the record, I really enjoyed Igor, and I actually liked the visual design and thought the animation was fine. I actually thought the low budget added to the sense of style, they seemed to work well with it.
Since Death Note is quite long (BTW, you've reminded me to pick up the two volumes of the manga that I don't have and read the whole thing), I would like to recommend some animated films which I think demonstrate that animation can be a medium for drama:
Felidae
Grave of the Fireflies
Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade
Mary and Max
The Plague Dogs
A Tree of Palme
When the Wind Blows
Richard Dawkins Foundation
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It was a good movie. My kids and I both enjoyed it.
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no way, i thought rango was the worst animation, this is much worse
shareReally? I thought the animation in Rango was amazing. Now the story and characters were horrible and you couldn't pay me to watch it ever again, unlike Igor which makes me smile every time and even my niece still asks to watch it every single time she visits me (going on 4/5 years now since the first viewing at age 5).
i'm happy for you, not every body can keep a mental power of a 5 yrs old after 20.
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