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Essex's ally

posted 17 years ago by honeybear133
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Who was the character/actor who played Essex's friend, who stood by him in the final battle against the Queen, but who eventually claimed that he lied (when the two were on trial)?

[–] NortonAddict 17 years ago

From the picture he's got posted, I believe it's Simon Woods with a wig and a moustache-thingie.

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[–] little_miss_sunnydale 17 years ago

Essex's ally is Henry Wriothesley, 3rd Earl of Southampton who is played by Eddie Redmayne. Southampton was not executed for his part in the rebellion, but imprisoned for a few years and later released by James I

[–] hera_g89 17 years ago

I thought Eddie Redmayne was fantastic as Southhampton. He made me cry near the end there....

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[–] i_am_short 17 years ago

Grrrr he was an idiot.

He should have died too.

[–] mandy_pandy18 17 years ago

Urgh I hated that character. He looked like a girl, and he was too cowardly to stand up to his crimes in the end. As least Essea did, however bad a person he was up till then!

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[–] little_miss_sunnydale 17 years ago

He looked like a girl

Lol! He doesn't look much better in the 'Elizabeth: The Golden Age' trailer!

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[–] mandy_pandy18 17 years ago

Seriously though Im not trying to be mean, but he has a really feminine face and that hair!!!

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[–] persistenceofvision 17 years ago

Wasn't Southampton *meant* to be quite effeminate by the film-makers? There's quite good evidence that the historical Earl was. I think that's what the Queen means when she says 'Throw the little lapdog Southampton into the Tower' at the end of Episode 2.

[–] persistenceofvision 16 years ago

I've just been watching the DVD, and several of the deleted scenes leave the viewer in very little doubt as to Southampton's sexuality.

[–] marismi 12 years ago

i, too, saw it now and agree that the deleted scenes make clearer how southampton was - though he´s partly VERY young there (became friends with essex when he was 17) and kind of extreme mannered whippersnapper, always anxious/exerted for impressing essex; nevertheless he was a "good" soldier... .)

(laugh) i find it a nice thing that in one of the scenes he and essex are in theatre, watching "richard II" -- the drama, thatfor (? wherefor?) southampton- actor eddie redmayne got critic´s circle award for best shakespeare- performance this year (for "his" richard II).

uhmmm - could you understand what they say there? i´ve got the impression that they slag the richard- actor as "ugly" or something like that; the deleted scenes aren´t translated, not even subtitled). slaggering is poor behaviour and i dislike it; but it would be kind of funny in just that case, cause - in the drama - richard is called "beautiful", and with mr. redmayne there was a really beautiful richard on stage.

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[–] the_reminder 10 years ago

Wasn't Southampton *meant* to be quite effeminate by the film-makers? There's quite good evidence that the historical Earl was.

I don't know about the historical evidence, but many people like to believe that the Earl of Southampton was the young addressee of Shakespeare's sonnets, who was described as being effeminate, notably in Sonnet 20, which begins,

"A woman's face with Nature's own hand painted
Hast thou, the master-mistress of my passion; "

The casting seems quite perfect in light of this.

[–] Dav620 12 years ago

Most definitely agree, I couldn't stand his ally, wuss couldn't stand it like a man when time came that they were judged and sentenced!!!!! Take care.....

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[–] marismi 12 years ago

yes, i agree he was.
i saw the deleted scenes, too, and in some of them southampton is years younger and an extremly affected boy, competing for essex´ attention and alway trying to impress him. there´s a maturing in the figure, and e. redmayne shows that very good.

(((g))) and in one of the scenes both are in theatre, watching RICHARD II; and this year mr. redmayne got the critic´s circle award for best shakespeare performance for acting just that richard... .

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