Anyone else feel sorry for the Moorwen... - Outlander (2008) Discussion

[–] KatharineFanatic 15 years ago

I felt sorry for her too. I think she was more than just an animal, and I don't blame her for what she did. But sadly, because of a race's mistakes, she had to be killed to save other human beings.

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[–] Mandy_Whitsands 11 years ago

sure, I felt awfully sorry for her too. If nothing else, then just by the looks of her. She was such a cute little teddy Panda bear ... </sarcasm>

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[–] jbs0902 15 years ago

Yeah we have to have moral equivlence in everything now a days
Although I admit a little backstory was nice

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[–] Fwank_The_Nutter 15 years ago

Yes, I felt sorry for her, too. It was an endangered species, so it was like watching a movie where they were hunting a Panda bear or something. I liked the movie, but I wanted the Moorwen to kill the humans and live in peace, especially after they killed her child.

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[–] nightblast 15 years ago

Only if the Panda bear would fight back and slaughter masses of people.

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[–] Mandy_Whitsands 11 years ago

it was like watching a movie where they were hunting a Panda bear or something

yeah, a Panda bear ... or something :p

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[–] Simonorman13 15 years ago

right, but then, she ate like, everyone...

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[–] Snikendeullteppe 15 years ago

yeah i did, thats so tipical humans, just destroying everything and not having any respect for other life...

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[–] jjpete7 13 years ago

lol

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[–] highstrike 15 years ago

question, how do you know it was a "her" ? or, just because it had mother-like features such as having a baby and taking care / sensing her young... thats supposed to make it female ? it was an alien, i doubt they have male / female ;)

but no, i didn't feel sorry because thats human nature, to destroy everything, wasn't sad, wasn't unexpected..... besides, they'r ugly as f#@k (except for when they hunt, then they light up like a christmas tree !!!)

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[–] Mart-13 13 years ago

Just saw it.

There were two of the Moorwen species stranded on the planet, one was presumably male (larger), and the other a female (smaller one).

What slightly (given how the film flowed anyway) disturbed me, was that there was ample chance for the two Moorwen to procreate and reproduce to the extent that re-creating their species could in theory have been possible, if only by very slight chance.

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[–] mlaiuppa 11 years ago

That's a lot of assumptions and many of them wrong.

First, in nature it isn't unusual for a female of the species to be larger.

Second. The large Moorwen was female and the small one was her offspring.

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[–] Mart-13 11 years ago

Yea, you may be right. I thought of male-female stuff more at the time, don't know why; could have been the general man-woman storyline there.

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[–] chiluvr1228 11 years ago

Spoiler

I also felt sorry for the Moorwen. They were minding their own business on their own planet when they were obliterated by Jim Caviezel's people. I also expected him to apologize to it at the end.

BTW what did the Moorwen supposedly eat on their planet that they would come to Earth and start eating people?

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[–] Mart-13 11 years ago

Probably some organic stuff that's similar in structural makeup to human tissue.

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[–] Mellow-Fellow 9 years ago

HEY EVERYBODY. Did you or any of the other posters not notice the smaller Moorwen "hatch"?
The big one they were hunting created the smaller one, presumably by laying an egg or how it appeared on screen in typical 'Aliens' fashion with a pod that feeds on organic material (humans) then hatches, it was all on screen for you to witness.

As for the "ample reproduction chance" you mention, the Moorwen would not naturally procreate with it's offspring. I can't think of anything that does that. Even if this Moorwen has the intellectual capacity to understand that it is the last of it's kind in a foreign world because it's own was destroyed it still wouldn't procreate with offspring, it goes against all natural instincts and we are presented with a beast that follows ONLY it's nstural instincts.

I don't blame people for killing them, I would wipe them out too, but the idea of having ONE left behind that can destroy an entire colony is stupid, with the technology they have, flying spaceships, they have figured out how to travel faster than light, maybe teleport matter, they would surely have the defense... even handheld weapons laying around for soldiers on the leftover base that could defeat ONE Moorwin. But let's not get into the many flaws this fun numb-brain sci-fi movie had, it was fun, but pretty dumb in a lot of ways.

Moorwen was a destructive creature that needed an inordinate amount of food to live on. did you SEE IT'S LAIR? There must have been hundreds of people in there, some still living for its torturous amusement, severing the horse head and leaving it tied in the tree? Strange behavior. So how did such a PERFECT hunter live on an environment capable of sustaining it's insatiable appetite for killing? It would wipe everything out at that rate. Another minor flaw IMO, it's size would only need to eat like one person every few days or more. Anyway the Moorwen should have been killed as it was shown to us, that thing was not important enough to displace any amount of human beings, because the way I took it was that the humans of "his kind" needed another place to live out of necessity from whatever, overpopulation, famine, whatever it might by they needed the space, without it they woule die. So them, or the poor poor kitty cat Moorwen.

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[–] toshcollier 12 years ago

you think because it's a alien they don't have male or female. I'm positive aliens are males and females just like every other species. a alien is a different species and a new experiment to the human race. i have been shown that aliens exist in reality i been shown the alien they caught in roswell from the ufo that crashed. i speak to this alien with meditation communication it's a form of meditation it let's you talk to peoples spirits and aliens with your thoughts, mind, body, soul, the meditation communication gives you much more use of your brain than 80% of the world. this is not technology it's a power u gain by gift of birth, there's only 100 people on this planet who know how to use it. i talk to lots of aliens not just this. there's no possibility the government can block this type of thing because they know nothing about it. this ability has no need for technology. i have several past live ones a neanderthal, another one is a man traveling through a natural time machine, you can go back in time, before the existence of time and anywhere in the future even after the human race evolves. you think of a time and place and your there within seconds. what i learned from aliens themselves will not yet be this world's knowing. 2012 is a inside joke nothings going to happen anytime soon.

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[–] jjpete7 12 years ago

Hey, how big is an aliens wanger? I bet it's really thin.

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[–] thinker1691 15 years ago

Stillnotawake-1:

The story as told in the movie, was terrible as an entire race
was destroyed by a greedy, conquering army. But this is the legacy
of the powerful.

Kind of what America is doing in parts of the Middle East. Of
course there will be those who defend our aggression. It's sad
that future generations will ask why and our patrotic myopics
will reply " Well they started it." Where have we heard that before.

I liked the Alien, she was doing exactly what any mother would
do to protect what's left of her race. In the end, there was a certain
sadness to her death and anyone who cannot feel for her passing
would be hard pressed to cry at the mountains of Bison bones which
were left on the Plains of the middle west and is a sad legacy for
America.

"If you make the world your enemy, you'll never run out of reasons to be miserable"

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[–] Super_Movie_Expert 15 years ago

It wasn't the humans that oblterated moorwen race! was the army from another planet! did you even watch the movie???

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[–] wolfbynyt 15 years ago

I have to say the Moorwen was one of the best creatures I've seen in a LONG time. The lights on the body were awesome but my favorite scene was when they threw the torch into the darkness and there it was, waiting and watching. I was cheering it on at that point. I assumed there was some self-awareness to the Moorwen, that it wasn't just an animal. It met him eye to eye etc., and it had a memory of its "people" being wiped out. Could definitely feel for it.

**SPOILERS BELOW**

One thing that disappointed me was at the end I was expecting him to say "I'm sorry" or some such to the Moorwen before he cut its arm off. It would have been cliche I suppose, but appropriate, especially since they seemed to be looking into each other's eyes at that moment.

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[–] twiklinglilstar 15 years ago

I felt so sorry for it in the end. I thought I was the only one who felt bad that is died. Even though it went on a bloody rampage, the humans from the far off planet started it. When it looked him in the eye @ the end I was like"poor poor moorwen." It looked sad and defeated.

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[–] tommyuk 13 years ago

I agree with you 100 per cent.

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[–] Mart-13 13 years ago

I was also waiting for a corny scene with the protagonist discovering that the Moorwen is equally sentient and intelligent and that Kainan could have said he's so very sorry.

In a way I think the last Moorwen might not have died after all, as it only lost its one arm (which could have grown back). Assuming the film stayed faithful to its screenplay, then it was probably left open-ended for the next feature, given that there were much bigger plans for the movie in the first place, probably Avatar-style in storyline terms, but without 3D.

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[–] satviewer2000 12 years ago

Yes I agree. A human could survive that fall into the water, so certainly this creature, which survived being nearly burned alive could also survive, even with only one arm (and it may have regenerative capabilities to grow another). Too bad the movie bombed so badly there won't be a sequel.

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[–] Mellow-Fellow 9 years ago

Can't you slop your excrement and bile down somewhere else? Maybe your toilet? Maybe your very own blog where we could all go to get information delivered from your intellectual supremacy. Surely everybody would want to hear. Routers and cables would overheat and explode from all the packets sent at such overwhelming rates to the masses that need to hear what you have to say.

I'm not even in much disagreement with your opinions, Honestly though friend. Instead of all your political nonsense just put a little signature link to your blog or something, thank you kindly.

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[–] Chops-4 14 years ago

I can't feel sorry for anything that ugly and repulsive.

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[–] hipster01cg 14 years ago

i thought it was cute.

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[–] YouKnowMyName68 12 years ago

What Chops-4 says: 'I can't feel sorry for anything that ugly and repulsive.'

Yet, you manage, somehow, to look into your mirror.

"You know, my name..."

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[–] noirdreamer 12 years ago

The action scene were gripping enough, but I couldnt help but feel for the Moorwen. It's whole habitat and way of life has been destroyed, of course it would be pissed.The only thing that made me shudder and want the good guys to win was simply seeing the amount of dead and magled human bodies down in its underground lair.

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