This one goes out ot the truth haters


http://www.megaupload.com/?d=145WH9ZQ

Arab type general saying 911 = inside job.

http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/02/911-rescuer-saw-explosions-inside-wtc.html

New evidence of explosives in building 6.(?)

http://911verses.com/911/underground/

Lots of good MP3s

http://question911.com/links.php

Lots of videos

http://www.serendipity.li/wot/pop_mech/reply_to_popular_mechanics.htm
http://www.911inplanesite.com/debunking_the_debunkers.htm
Just a couple of the many debunking the propaganda mechanics debunkers.

http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/06/141355.php

David Ray Griffen book.

To all of the people who dispise truth: I want you to debunk every single claim. This doesn't include say "you simply deny undeniable facts" or "Do you believe in Elvis" or "only 120 people believe in these claims"

I still get a kick out of the last one.

Especially because the lets roll forums have 2,300 users alone and I havn't found one none believer there.

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Only i reply on these post....

dosent that say anything about your cause?????
ONLY 130 PEOPLE BELEIVES IN THESE FAIRYTALES

THERE FAKE...... there made by actors and 35 year old virgins living in their mothers basement....



and especially,, Arab type general saying it was inside job = Untrustworthy, dosent look like a general.......
and what does a general know about something like that: Nothing.



It is fake, only dumb people beleives in them

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This loler guy is a jackass!

"only dumb people beleives in them"

Yeah not like smart people who can't spell "believes"!
HAW HAW!

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HAHAHAHAHHA.
Oh this is great.

Now i know that all conspiracy theorists are all 12-year-old boys pretending to be big.
HAHAHAHAHAAH

You are so immature, and yet you try to debate like a man: go home 13-year-old, let the men talk politics.

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This loler guy is a jackass!

"only dumb people beleives in them"

Yeah not like smart people who can't spell "believes"!
HAW HAW!


Your immaturity and ignorance never seises to amaze me. Just because im not born in America, then you have to bash not for using Enlish as well as you..... you should vote for Bush.



And what is the deal with the personal attacks???

But then again, when you have lost an argument, then personal attacks really highlights immaturity.

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Well your the one who started all the irrelevant "your 14 years old" crap. So don't start crying when you get a dose of your own medicine.
I'm not aware of having "lost" any argument. I remain convinced that the real 9-11 conspiracy theory is the one put forth as the "official" story by the neo-cons.

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You live in a fantasy world.
But you are now 14year old. Ok, you are just to naive to to know the truth.
Study history. Watch the documentaries "operation Lune" and "Forgotten Silver" - then youll know what i am talking about.

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You are a 12 yr old who smells bad.

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You are a 12 yr old who smells bad.

Juan93: You must have reached a new height in your verbal skills.

Keep up the kindergarten-talk: it is very fun to read :)

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Liberals attack the messenger not the message. Hey Juan,... I have a greencard I can sell you.

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You dont have any evidence..... all of those are fabricated.


"Especially because the lets roll forums have 2,300 users alone and I havn't found one none believer there." - right, hahahaha,, you get that when you log into those sites... cause if you want to log into those sites, you have to answer some questions like: "do you beleive in Santa Claus?" or the most used "Are You an Idiot"....



personally i think that most of the witnesses are in fact just cocain-addicts that are promissed money to say that they some important guy.


If anything of this was true it would be showed to us by the idependent media.... if the secret magic shadow government were taking over power, they would moniture everything... especially here, a board under a documentary which has the "truth", and the secret police would track you all down, so less people would know of the truth...... that is a fact, and one of the biggest evidences that you are soo full of "BEEP".

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good stuff. here's another good site...

http://www.powderburns.org/

lame refutations though.

130 people? why even bother debating with them...it's reduced to *beep* ad hominem attacks.

and none of it proves the 19 freedom hating evil muslim terrorists who evaded NORAD...that's the important point.

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oh man - you do live in a fantasyworld......

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no amount of insults proves the 19 freedom hating muslim conspiracy theory.

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nothing proves the 19 freedom hating muslim conspiracy theory at all - it is just a science fiction movie and on the bottom of your heart you all know that

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You guys have said that you believe that Bush is a bad man and that he went to Iraq for the oil.

Bush said that we were going to Iraq because Saddam helped Al Qaeda and because he had weapons of mass destruction.

You think Bush did it for oil. But Bush says he did it because Saddam supported terrorists and had WMDs.

So are you saying that Bush LIED about the reasons we went to war?

That must be what you are saying. If you think he is capable of lying about going to war in Iraq (which has killed over 2000 US soldiers, and anywhere between 30,000-100,000 Iraqi civilians) why don't you think he is capable of lying about September 11th?

And remember that 9/11 only killed a fraction of those killed in Iraq to date. Why can he lie about one and NOT the other?

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because it would be revealed............ there are evidence that Bush lied about iraq...

there is no evidence nor truth about bush planning 9/11 - the only "evidence" is manipulated lies, which only 35 year single men, who have never been laid, and living in their mothers basement, beleieve in.

that he went to Iraq for the oil i beleiveable, that he planned 9/11 is a laughable lie, which only pathetic losers beleive in.

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no one said bush planned it you twit! only idiots belive he went there for oil, if thats true where is it? they went there to keep sadam from tradeing oil in euros instead of dollars, and to keep the iraq oil off the market so the oil that bushes buddies had would increase in value.

only PATHETIC LOSERS have to resort back to grade school insults of " you never had sex before!

i suppose alex's wife just got pregnant from sitting on a tack!

you need to shut up and research the information yourself BEFORE YOU SAY ITS NOT TRUE! if you do not it simply shows you are lazy and close minded!

this is not a "bush did it" senario, this has been planned since the beginning,

if you knew any thing about world history, you would understand that dictators have used fear to control people and used self inflicted terror attacks to justify tyranny,

Nero burnned rome to blame on the christans! hitler used the reichstag fire to
justify a police state!

its even the plot for *beep* STAR WARS!

NOBODIES IN THIS FOR MONEY!

ALEX gives out free *beep* hell hes given me 3 free videos this year alone!

he tells you to make copies of them!!

and if nobody cares about this why are there literally thousands of 911 related web sites and millions of people who listen to all the alternative radio shows, yes thats right there are entire networks devoted to this specific topic. www.gcnlive.com www.rbnlive.com www.revereradionetwork.com,

why dont you call in alex's show if you disagree you will be at the top of the line heres the number 1800 259 9231 call in 11:00 am-2:00pm m-f cts

or call jack bloods show 1800 259 9231 2:00 pm - 4:00pm. m-f

oh wait i bet you wont because you are full of *beep*

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Fat3209 - you are just like Bush,
you see the world in absolutes...

just because you dont like Bush, like me, dosent mean that you beleive in that he planned September 11th - which he didnt, cause it would be revealed.
Just because Bush lied, does not mean that everything he have said is a lie too.
Saddam probaply supported terrorists - why shoulden he? Cadaffi and Iran did. And the whole question about WMD..... well, it was on Bush side, Saddam DID USE IT ONCE, against the Kurds and Iranians(Chemical weapons only), so it was logically that he maybe had, but he had not got any - so Bush Lied. that enraged me, yes, but that is not the same as saying that he also lied about 9/11, UFOs under the white house and Elvis (as you claim).
you cant take a thing out of context and use it in another, and conclude a totally different thing, without evidence (which you have done the whole time).

You retorik and intelligence is just like Bush,
Only idiots deals in absolutes.

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if this video wasn't evidence enough for you, then maybe you out to check out loose change. I would recommend the 2nd edition. You may argue with eyewitnesses and other facts all you want, but how come if you were standing on something that was as tall as the twin towers and you dropped a steel reinforced chunk of concrete (or anything for that matter, the laws of physics still would hold) it would hit the ground in around 9.2 seconds. Well ladies and gents, the whole building fell in about 9.2 seconds which means there would have to be no resistance from the bottom floors of this *steel reinforced concrete* building which would mean that the something, say explosives?, would have had to remove the resistance that would have been there. Thats righ, it fell at free fall speeds. Besides this fact, there are many more on this video and it is highly suggested that you open your mind abit and do your own research instead of letting the FEMA and other government responders tell you what they (or possibly you) want to hear.

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skate element:

The people who believe in this doc say that George Bush planned 9/11........ right (sarcasm)... An attack of that magnitude could not have been thought of by a man like Bush (i.e. low intelligence). And secondly: there would be to many leaks in the government. Just like now, with Iraq and Katrina - there have been so many leaks, just because of a hurricane and a war. And the idiots who believe in this film say that that the government covered it up..... THINK ABOUT IT. THAT IS TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE. There would be too many leaks.

If there are hundreds of leaks because of a hurricane Katrina and a war against a foreign and aggressive country like Iraq, why weren't there leaks about the biggest genocide in American History??????? The "humans" that believe in these documentaries cant answer that.


The biggest genocide in american history could not be covered up like that: there would be too many people involved, too many people that on some level would know.

only about 10 - 15 people is in alex jones documentaires - that does not talk good for it. No one wants to have any thing to do with it, because it is full of ¤¤¤¤.

and secondly: if Bush and the shadow-governement where willing to kill 2000 - 3000 people 9/11 because of power, why do they hesitate to kill alex jones all of us that know of the documentary, if the documentary is the truth?????????????

THat is why i simply dont beleive in them.

when i saw peter jacksons forgotten silver, i knew how easy it is to foul people.

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If you tried to research anything other than the mainstream news, then you would know that there are whistleblowers out there say something is wrong with the 'official government story'. People who were in FEMA, FBI, NYFD, NYPD, the consrtuction companies contracted to clean, ect. I never once said Bush planned the whole thing, not once. But I guess your willing to accept the government story on how 19 terrorist flew planes into buidlings and somehow 13 of them lived, this was explained on loose change 2nd edition. And do you really think the government would have something to gain by killing Alex? HA! that would allow skeptics of his work to wonder if he may have been a threat to some one. I know your never gonna believe any of this stuff because it sounds to fairy talish, but hey, thats how I would do it if I were hell bent on power.
On katrina, the leaked what everyone already knew. (or I knew in my case, i mean if you couldn't see that FEMA was disfunctional than maybe you do need to stop watching FOX). Its just hilarious to see a press confrence from San Antonio with Cheney who called katrina and "excercise". I mean most people dont even realize that gun confiscations where happening to law abiding citizens that were protecting there belonging and FEMA and U.S. MArshals used the excuse of dangerous hooligans in the streets as reason to take them. Events like this, if you are willing to look far enough into it, has flaws when covered by the 'news'. The best part about Alex is that he says that you dont have to beleive him, because all the stuff he gets for his documentaries are in the news! You can do the same research he did and find all the stuff he has found. Why do you think there are over 10 9/11 documentaries from people who had no collaboration with each other? They say alot of the same thing too.

I would recommend researching this stuff for yourself before waving it off as a 'conspiracy theory'

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you have no evidence of what you write, therefore it must not be true, therefore you are a liar. All this you speak of is not true, you say that it is from tv-stations and the media, but you haven proven this, therefore you have fabricated it yourself, therefore you must be a liar

try to researh other things than the news reported by former Star Treck / x-files fans living in their mothers basements.



as i said before, it is funny that you only speak of alex jones documentaries and have only been registered today (21/03/06), did anyone say second account......
there must be only 4 people that speak of these documentaries......


stop using Bobs-conspiracy-jourbal on the web



secondly: you did not answer the quistions you where asked - typically, when ever you can proof that something is unlikely, people like you see the totally other way, because you WANT TO beleive in your own theories, eventhough they speak against all that is logically,

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I did create the account on the 21st but i had never seen this site before. I can sit here all day and show you news articles (national and international) that back up what I say. But even if I did do that, you would sit here and use your broken english to tell me they were fake, so whats the point. If you check out alex's website, he has all documentation you need for anything that is controversial. And as for this quote of yours "typically, when ever you can proof that something is unlikely, people like you see the totally other way, because you WANT TO beleive in your own theories, eventhough they speak against all that is logically".....Trust me, I had a hard time believing this, but like i said all it took was research and to find out what the front page news stories weren't telling me. On top of that, you never proved that 9/11 being an inside job was unlikly, you just said I am a liar. There is a man by the name of Jimmy Walters who has put up a bid for $1,000,000 to anyone who can prove that explosives were not used for 9/11. So if your up to it, go to www.reopen911.org and prove that it wasn't and inside job. Since you seem to be so educated on the subject of 9/11, im sure tomorrow you will be a millionaire.

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try to researh other things than the news reported by former Star Treck / x-files fans living in their mothers basements

yes, try to researh other things than the news reported by former Star Treck / x-files fans living in their mothers basements, just like:

Col. Donn de Grand-Pre, U.S. Army (ret.).

Andreas Von Buelow

Attorney Stanley Hilton

Michael Meacher former UK Government Minister

FBI Special Agent Robert Wright

lawyer David Schippers

actor Charlie Sheen

Fmr. FBI Translator Sybil Edmonds

Michael Springman Springmann worked for the US government for 20 years with the foreign service and consulate.

obviously just a bunch of zit faced nerds!

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All YOU TRUTH-HATERS ANSWER ME THIS:
If the shadow-governement where willing to kill 2000 - 3000 people 9/11 because of power, why do they hesitate to kill alex jones all of us that know of the documentary, if the documentary is the truth?????????????



ANSWER NOW

conzor: none of those things you clip in are true, it is all false, proove it... that is also the case for you skate....thingee.

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yeah ive heard that one too, like in Police state 2 where alex rents a navy battle ship and 3000 us and dutch troops, and fakes Operation urban warrior and pays 100"s of actors to participate in it, the he snuck into the defense department and faked their web site.

and i never voted for the film, i just can't stand GOVERNMENT SPOOKS like you, no normal person is this closed minded, not even the most hard core neo con. you are obviously paid to argue with people. I have given all the evidence i need to know that absolutely, nothing will prove it to you.

what do you get out of this, are they promiseing you saftey, money, a sweet job in
Langly? you make me sick i know your just a sniveling little minion of these sick *beep* have you no spine?

you no this stuff is real, you talk about fairy tales, you are living in the sickest one of all, you belive all of what the tv tells you! i give you tons of articles that say what i said they said, and all you can come up with " you made those websites" if that was the case wouldnt i bet shut down for useing usa todays ' web adress?

i doubt you have any say in it any as you arent even an american any way are you, your probbalby contracted out of india to sit at home and be a little matix mole.


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Do you even read what you write?

You are VERY MUCH paranoid.

Just because peole speak against what you beleive, you automatically assume that we all are CIA-agents, hired by the Indian inteligence-agency or a Government-spokesman.
That is cool, you fear us. Hehe. That can be used. hehe.

I cant speak the other ones who wont beleive in your fantasy-world.
I just want to combat paranoid illusians on film.

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no i assumed you were a spook because all you guys do is cut and paste the same tired crap. and use 3rd grade insults. only govt. spooks are sp hard headed, and i want some documentation on all yalls claims, like only 200 people know about this, why were there 30,000 + votes on that cnn poll, who 80+% agree with us?

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80+% agree with us - prove it.


and when you say agree with us, do you meen that 80 % think that 9/11 was planned by the secret-shadow-nazi-government, or only that 80 % beleive that Bush lies???

cause they arent the same things. Im not a Bush-supporter, or would ever vote for the cow-boy, but that is not the same as i beleive in the wrong conclusions of this movie.

80+% agree with does not beleive in the conclusions of this movie, that is a fact. Prove me otherwise.

80 % probably hate Bush and thinks that he lied about Iraq (which he probably did), no doubt, but they certainly dont beleive in these crackput-theories, which is only supported by websites, and videos in poor-quality, which could have been made by a computer. Secondly, when it is more or less only Alex Jones which worked on this movie, it does not speak well for the movie, it is far less beleiveable, when you can assume that it has only been made by a single guy in his mothers basement and a computer,

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This is probably the poll being referred to:

CNN Online Poll:

Wednesday, November 10, 2004, at 15:58:54 EST
Do you believe there is a U.S. government cover-up surrounding 9/11?
Yes = 9,447 votes (89%)
No = 1,201 votes (11%)
Total = 10,648 votes (100%)

http://www.cnn.com/POLLSERVER/results/14340.content.html

There is also a more scientific poll from CNN about a related topic:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The percentage of Americans who blame the Bush administration for the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington has risen from almost a third to almost half over the past four years, a CNN poll released Monday found.

Asked whether they blame the Bush administration for the attacks, 45 percent said either a "great deal" or a "moderate amount," up from 32 percent in a June 2002 CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/11/911.poll/index.html

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Gonzo:
Jaltesorenon made this question somewhere in a forum :
"But if you are right, and there was no plane at the Pentagon, where did that plane, and the passengers, where did they go.
Cause if you people claim that it wasnt no plane that crashed that day, then were is the plane???? Cause then there is a whole case about a missing plane."

If you are so all-knowing, then you must know the answer this question.

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Its nice to know I wasnt the only one who doubted and searched for the truth. Im supprised that Alex Jonees is even listed on IMDB!

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i already answered it and ill answer it again! first if you belive the government kills people for saying things, then you already belive that this is a police state!

THEY WONT KILL HIM BECAUSE HES TOO WELL KNOWN!

AND IT WOULD MAKE DOUCHE-BAGS LIKE YOU THINK MAYBEE HE HAD SOME THING TO SAY!

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you are so full of ........


of course the would kill him, if they killed 2000 people in a building why not this man.

secondly: The man is NOT well-known (only to conspiracy-nerds, only 200 people know of his "documentaries", and half of those doesent even beleive in them....

you shout and call names because you know that we are talking the truth, and that your theories are quickly falling apart- that is why you are acting like a child

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why was there a cnn poll that sais 80+ percent people belive what we belive?

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they dont

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I just cannot believe that 'sven' and 'sjensen' and their ilk are being serious. My observation is that they haven't responded to one reasonable question, they just throw mud and insults - that is no basis for a proper argument.
I think these anti-'conspiracy theorists' are taking the p**s and winding the rest of you guys up. Don't rise to the bait - if they choose not to answer your reasonable questions just ignore them.

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Jaltesorenon made this question somewhere in a forum :
"But if you are right, and there was no plane at the Pentagon, where did that plane, and the passengers, where did they go.
Cause if you people claim that it wasnt no plane that crashed that day, then were is the plane???? Cause then there is a whole case about a missing plane."
If you are so all-knowing, then you must know the answer this question.



stardust - you are the only grownup here, i think.

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There is only a missing plane if there was really a plane to begin with...
The won't even show a picture of the plane impacting the Pentagon, why is this ?
guess they don't have one to prove it...

The onus is on the pentagon to prove a plane hit, there is no evidence otherwise that one did.

If 11 out of 19 terrorists can survive the plane crashes, how come no one else can? LOL

"learn from history or you are doomed to repeat it..."

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The onus is on the pentagon to prove a plane hit, there is no evidence otherwise that one did.

These are fairly convincing, look at the top one of the plane, then look at the others and go back to the top and see where they fit in.

http://www.twf.org/News/Y2005/0307-Fragment.jpg

http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/13.jpg


Both the "C" and other debris carried.

http://www.911myths.com/html/pentagon_18.html

how would a Boeing 757 with wings, a tail, and engines create a plain hole with no other obvious scars?

All right here, though a plane hitting a reinforced building at that speed is going to be in parts....

http://www.oilempire.us/pentagon-photos.html

Great short computer modeling of flight 77 and Pentagon damage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8

More good stuff

Wing Scars on the Building in the Link Below

http://www.oilempire.us/pentagon-photos.html

MUCH MORE, Click on each picture and there are about 20 in a slide show.

http://www.911myths.com/html/757_wreckage.html

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.ht ml

http://rense.com/general32/phot.htm

I also have some pictures from the Moussaoui trial of passenger bodies burned very badly but I won't post those unless you want them.

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/index.html#parts

AND..............

Two people on American Airlines Flight 77 made phone calls to contacts on the ground. At 09:12 EDT, flight attendant Renee May called her mother, Nancy May, in Las Vegas. During the call, which lasted nearly two minutes, May said her flight was being hijacked by six individuals and they had been moved to the rear of the plane. May also asked her mother to contact American Airlines, which she and her husband promptly did. American Airlines was already aware of the hijacking.

Passenger Barbara K. Olson called her husband, United States Solicitor General Theodore Olson at the Department of Justice twice to tell him about the hijacking and to report that the passengers and pilots were held in the back of the plane. After the first call was cut off, Theodore Olson contacted the command center at the Department of Justice, and tried unsuccessfully to contact Attorney General John Ashcroft. Olson called her husband back, and asked him "What should I tell the pilot?"

Investigators have identified remains of 184 people who were aboard American Airlines Flight 77 or inside the Pentagon, including those of the five hijackers, but they say it is impossible to match what is left with the five missing people.

A team of more than 100 workers at a military morgue at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware used several methods to identify remains but primarily relied on DNA testing and dental records. They formally ended their effort Friday after concluding that some remains were too badly burned to identify.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A61202-2001Nov20?language=pri nter







Trubl_Makr - Attention CBS: Bring back Walker, Texas Ranger! WTR is my favourite show

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If 11 out of 19 terrorists can survive the plane crashes, how come no one else can? LOL

Because it's false.

THE 9-11 TERRORISTS ARE DEAD!
Take the BBC, for example, which did in fact report, on September 23, 2001, that some of the alleged terrorists were alive and healthy and had protested their being named as assassins.

But there is one wrinkle. The BBC journalist responsible for the story only recalls this supposed sensation after having been told the date on which the story aired. "No, we did not have any videotape or photographs of the individuals in question at that time," he says, and tells us that the report was based on articles in Arab newspapers, such as the Arab News, an English-language Saudi newspaper.

The operator at the call center has the number for the Arab News on speed dial. We make a call to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. A few seconds later, Managing Editor John Bradley is on the line. When we tell Bradley our story, he snorts and says: "That's ridiculous! People here stopped talking about that a long time ago."

Bradley tells us that at the time his reporters did not speak directly with the so-called "survivors," but instead combined reports from other Arab papers. These reports, says Bradley, appeared at a time when the only public information about the attackers was a list of names that had been published by the FBI on September 14th. The FBI did not release photographs until four days after the cited reports, on September 27th.

The photographs quickly resolved the nonsense about surviving terrorists. According to Bradley, "all of this is attributable to the chaos that prevailed during the first few days following the attack. What we're dealing with are coincidentally identical names." In Saudi Arabia, says Bradley, the names of two of the allegedly surviving attackers, Said al-Ghamdi and Walid al-Shari, are "as common as John Smith in the United States or Great Britain."

The final explanation is provided by the newspaper Asharq Al-Awsat, one of the sources of Arab News, which in turn serves as a source to the BBC. Mohammed Samman is the name of the reporter who interviewed a man named Said al-Ghamdi in Tunis, only to find that al-Ghamdi was quite horrified to discover his name on the FBI list of assassins.

Samman remembers his big story well. "That was a wonderful story," he says. And that's all it was. It had nothing to do with the version made up of Bröckers' and Bülow's combined fantasies.

"The problem," says Samman, "was that after the first FBI list had been published, CNN released a photo of the pilot Said al-Ghamdi that had been obtained from the files of those Saudi pilots who had at some point received official flight training in the United States."

After Samman's story was reported by the news agencies, he was contacted by CNN. "I gave them Ghamdi's telephone number. The CNN people talked to the pilot and apologized profusely. The whole thing was quite obviously a mix-up. The Ghamdi family is one of the largest families in Saudi Arabia, and there are thousands of men named Said al-Ghamdi."

When we ask Samman to take another look at the FBI's list of photographs, he is more than happy to oblige, and tells us: "The Ghamdi on the photo is not the pilot with whom I spoke."
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/spiegel/0,1518,265160-2,00.html



Trubl_Makr - Attention CBS: Bring back Walker, Texas Ranger! WTR is my favourite show

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They have of course considered killing Alex Jones, as he is good at rallying support, and they may yet do it. They well realise that killing Alex Jones would create an enormous surge of support, as it would give far more credibility to his message if he were made a martyr. It could even go so far as to create a swell of protests, violent and otherwise. This would end up benefitting the elite in the end, as they could push on further into a police state, citing examples of violent resistance as their excuse to take away more rights and freedoms.

They may well knock him off once they're ready to step things up a bit, but for now their tactic is a much slower removal of rights and freedoms. People are accepting of their rights and freedoms being removed when it happens slowly over time, and when they still believe it is for a good cause, such as "fighting terrorism" or "stopping civil unrest".

So turning Alex Jones into a credible martyr doesn't currently fit with their plan. Once the public is more fearful, they would be able to assassinate Alex Jones (edit: without -> with) with minimal retalliation. Perhaps it would be suitable timing after another major attack on the USA.

It is never as cut-and-dry, black-and-white as you seem to be making it out to be, punjab9800. There are always many things going on behind the scenes, even when an action seems to be "straight forward and simple". Killing Alex Jones does not currently align with their game-plan, no more, no less. If it does line up in future, sure they'll kill him.

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"The biggest genocide in american history could not be covered up like that: there would be too many people involved, too many people that on some level would know."

False flag operations work with relatively small numbers of people. The majority of people working in government just "follow orders". You are behaving like people don't "come out" about what happened, but they do and have. The mainstream media of course either a) completely ignores these people, or b) ignores what they are actually saying and calls them wackos.

Look up National Security Letters (NSLs) if you want a clue about how the day-to-day government covers up what it is doing. You can be absolutely sure that anyone with even tiny pieces of information about the misdeeds which took place on 9/11, received instructions to not disclose any of it, under the pretext of "national security" ... also under penalty of imprisonment. The government of the USA can even strip citizenship from Americans, without any public court appearance at all. Details on these and other scary abuses of power are all available from mainstream media sources.

If you were a government employee who followed orders that day, which you later discovered were part of a false flag operation, would you risk the personal welfare of you and your family to try to get that information to the public ? Most people would not, and even if they did want to "go public", where could they actually go with their information ? The mainstream media certainly would not give them the time of day, and the majority of the public does not extensively follow alternative online media.

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Fatso said: You guys have said that you believe that Bush is a bad man and that he went to Iraq for the oil.

Bush said that we were going to Iraq because Saddam helped Al Qaeda and because he had weapons of mass destruction

Good news moron. To date, we have not taken oil in 91 to date, (wish we would so the price would go down). Saddam did help Al Qaeda (perhaps not directly with 9-11, but through Hamas and training sites within Iraq) and as of June of this year we have discovered WMD's in Iraq. Big surprise hey?...LOL... did you conspiricy theorists really think Saddam was our buddy? woah... sad.

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We found wmd's in Iraq????!!
We went into Iraq to prevent TOO MUCH oil from being pumped (which would have brought oil prices down)and to keep Saddam from accepting currency other than the U.S. dollar which he was planning on doing and which coincidentally would have been a big hit on our economy.
Saddam WAS our buddy at least back when he was being a good little puppet he found out different when he was misled by the U.S. into thinking he could invade Kuwait without interference and got smacked down.

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