Anti-Capitalist
I liked the movie for the most part, but the whole anti-capitalism, anti establishment, etc... part pissed me off a bit.
shareWhy?
Get off the thruways and take the backroads.
because it seems like it is becoming cool these days to be against freedom, independence, happiness, capitalism, etc... Particularly with capitalism; it is the best economic model there is. why pretend like that is not a fact, and try to appear as if it's the norm to dislike capitalism and freedom.
I did like the movie. I didn't like that part however.
Actually corporate America takes away a person's freedom. I don't know how old you are, but when I was kid (in the 60s) there were no strip malls, no wal or k-marts. Everything was singular with independent customer service, so you were treated right. Because the owners needed you.
Now all you see is corporate chains everywhere. There is barely freedom or choice.
Do you know that you can get a decent hamburger meal at a diner for just a dollar or two more then at McDonalds or Burger King? Yet people flock to these fast food joints because they think they're saving a huge amount of money.
It's not freedom people hate, it's corporate greed.
If you want to know how precious freedom is, just leave the US for a week.
davidsmith666999 wrote:
Actually corporate America takes away a person's freedom. I don't know how old you are, but when I was kid (in the 60s) there were no strip malls, no wal or k-marts. Everything was singular with independent customer service, so you were treated right. Because the owners needed you.
Now all you see is corporate chains everywhere. There is barely freedom or choice.
Do you know that you can get a decent hamburger meal at a diner for just a dollar or two more then at McDonalds or Burger King? Yet people flock to these fast food joints because they think they're saving a huge amount of money.
It's not freedom people hate, it's corporate greed.
If you want to know how precious freedom is, just leave the US for a week.
While I agree with the broader sentiment of your post, I can't help but think that you and I didn't grow up in the same '60's, the golden age of the Military/Industrial complex. Not only did these things exist, but *everybody* was deluded by them, not just the idiots. At least some people believe differently today and are only thought of as traitors by a minority, not the majority.
I agree with davidsmith666999. What does Capitalism have to do with freedom?
shareHaha, you're a funny guy mike, you know why? Cause you strike me as the PERFECT example of a brainwashed, misunderstood, person living in this exact "Capitalist" society..where values and morals are moot. Capitalism does not EQUAL freedom. It equals freedom if you were born into a rich family that owns a business exploiting other people who are your slaves, working for minimum wage while the $ goes to the owner who doesn't do any of the labor. If you're Paris Hilton you have "freedom, independence, happiness" if you're Joe Schmoe chances are you're struggling, and you're far from having any of the said things.
shareso what's your answer, mr elitist? socialism? equal distribution of wealth? it's always funny when people dislike capitalism yet offer no other acceptable alternative. let's hear what ya got sir.
shareThink about what you're saying, first and foremost. It's NOT funny to dislike your precious system. It may be funny to you when you have your head stuck up deep down somewhere. Socialism? Yeah, what's your problem with it? Or are you one of those who think Socialism = People in Rags. The value of the Russian Ruble during the USSR was HIGHER than the Dollar. And before you veer off on a tangeant bashing how the Soviet Union was "a horrible place to live" it would help if you'd lived there. (all politics *beep* aside that were going on, hey, I'm not sayin having a centralized govt was perfect either...neither is your govt perfect).
It's definitely NOT funny to me to dislike capitalism, when thinking privatizing healthcare is a good idea and expect people to be healthy. It's definitely NOT funny to me that raping resources and overproducing only wasting a large sum of the products is helping the environment, etc etc. My answer WOULD indeed be Socialism, but for people like you and of course, the MAJORITY of Brainwashed americans - It's OK, your GOVERNMENT did it to you - would be galactically DIFFICULT to comprehend it. Because afterall, you do love having that EXTRA 1, 2, 10, thousand dollars in your pocket while somebody else is begging outside on the street because somebody felt it would be a good idea to "let that person go"
I guess were gonna have to agree to disagree. I definately value freedom, and I find capitalism to be the only economic form of freedom. I will not bash your opinion as you are entitled to it.
shareI'd advise you to do more reading on Capitalism, from UNBIASED sources. Try Karl Marx's Das Kapital for example. Or go see the ghetto and see what capitalism creates. I don't call that freedom.
http://www.powr-prm.org/hungarypresocialism.html
You are an idiot. People are greedy. Lawyers are greedy. Politicians are lawyers. Yes, let's hand over all control to the lawyers. There is no such thing as true Socialism. It's impossible on a large scale. If we turned socialist everyone would be begging outside on the streets (except for those in control, those tied to the government, of course). Why don't you go take a vacation in (communist) China. Go see people sh*tting into holes in the ground, living under cardboard and plastic, go try to access youtube.com there or argue on this board, go see how well they take care of their 'carbon footprint' and then you can tell me how evil us 'brainwashed' Americans are. Capitalism is not perfect but we don't have true capitalism here in America anyway. We have the 'too big to fail' arguments being thrown around, we have corrupt politicians (which you would most definitely get in a 'socialist' country as well), we have liberals keeping companies like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac around, conservatives bringing us the patriot act, but you know what... at the end of the day.. at least we have the right to protest, the right to use the internet without being completely censored, the right to choose who we marry, where we work, at least we don't have KGB 'removing' us when we say something against our government (like in your precious USSR).
Voting Hist.http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=26598711
@Warpaint- Okay you do get that USSR and China aren't truly socialist they are dictatorships. For example of Socialism working you should look at the Ukrainian Makhnovist movement. It may not have lasted long but it worked while it was going.
And yes no system is perfect but hardly means we should just settle for Capitalism and not strive for something better.
look at the Ukrainian Makhnovist movement. It may not have lasted long but it worked while it was going.
Exactly. It didn't last, it never does. My point is those countries claim to be communist. That's what happens with communism/socialism. The intentions always start out great but corruption comes into play and you get countries like China and people living under cardboard. I'm sure a great deal of the Foxconn employees would love to live in evil America with the horrible capitalist government. Watch Reds. Read Animal Farm. share
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