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I admit I've never seen the show, but I have no desire to. There are some things you just don't make fun of, and eating disorders are one of them. An eating disorder is a life-threatening DISEASE, not the making of sitcom material. Plus, it's highly possible that some people will take what these characters say seriously (i.e. from what I've read, 5'9" and 140lbs is fat, and 5'10" and 120lbs is healthy). I'm glad they cancelled this show. While I personally have never had an eating disorder, I know people who have and I sincerely doubt they would find a joke about all the pain and stress they've gone through -- the fact that they could have starved themselves to death, for God's sake -- very funny. I know I wouldn't.

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If these people would try and laugh at themselves, like starved was doing(the main character has an eating diorder in real life), maybe they would feel better and try and realize that their problem is not as bad as they might think....

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Ummm ... starving yourself to death sounds like a pretty big problem to me. Laughing at yourself is okay, but not when it's something as serious as an eating disorder. What's next, a sitcom in the hospice for the terminally ill?

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Okay here's a more unconventional solution for starvation; marijuana(it works for cancer patients).
I realize it seems like replacing one problem with another, but concidering the alternative, it may be worth a shot...and it works for me:)

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Look, the bottom line is that as informed as you may think you are, you are doing nothing other than spouting ignorance bored558. Obviously you have a personal attachment to one of these eating disorders (whether it be personally or a loved one) which is SEVERELY biasing your opinion on the matter. If you DID actually WATCH the show, you'd know that it has LOTS more to say than a sitcom would have to offer. The show really is NOT a sitcom, its merely an attempt to bring to attention these eating disorders, if anything the humor is thrown in (very keenly) as an attempt to offer the viewer RELIEF because of the content of the rest of the show being so SERIOUS. So chill out, quit freaking over something you know nothing about, get outside the box, etc etc etc, freakin' etc.

*sigh*
tired of closedmindedness

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Yes, phillatio, let's give them some pot. That will solve their problems. While we're at it, let's make them alcoholics, since we all know beer puts on the pounds.

And hyperjon9, I do not appreciate the personal attack. I've read reviews of the show, I've read quotes from the show, and everything about it has totally turned me off. If it is in fact, "a very, very serious show", then I do not think it's appropriate for them to be inserting "funny moments" about eating disorders. For instance, I saw a scene where they said someone at 5'10" should weigh 120lbs. That's not only not funny -- that's dangerous. What if someone with an eating disorder was watching that? They could definitely be influenced by that; even someone without an eating disorder could take those words to heart.


"There are some things you just don't make fun of, and eating disorders are one of them."

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sick?.........you know what is sick?!?! seeing unrealistic television ads for places like mcdonalds and burger king or for chips or candy or cake with people that look like models eating these things and for once we had a realistic view of what you probably will look like eating these things (del pentecost) on the show he portrayed dan roundtree as a compulsive over eater and was probably able to do so because of personal experience like many people out there who struggle with the need to eat beyond what is healthy, including myself. i feel that all the actor in this show were very brave for being on this show and hope to see them in future projects

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Hey, bored if something offends you change the channel, and get a tivo while you're at it.
And don't equate alcohol with pot. Drinking kills thousands a year, while pot kills very few.

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I am in the same position as "bored558", I have never seen the show and also have no desire to. As the mother of a "17 year old daughter suffering with anorexia" I cannot see for the life of me what anyone would find funny about a person feeling so bad about themselves that they would go so low as to eat "dog food" yes dog food because they feel they do not deserve to eat anything better.

Or experience all the anxiety that comes with just sitting down and trying to have a small bite to eat. The high anxiety that will not let them sit for any period of time because they feel they have to exercise or get fat. Doing 10,000 sit ups a day on a marble floor or walking every waking moment until blisters and sores come on their feet.

Until you walk in the shoes of these kids, and live the horror every morning of going to wake up your child and not knowing if they would be alive or dead. Please do not continue to watch this sick show "Starved". I spoke to my daughter about the show and she was disgusted how someone would find any amusement in watching this show. Do you not think that my daughter would like to be normal and not sick with this awful deadly disease. She tells me all the time that if she would have known how things would have worked out she would have chosen another path. Please pray for my daughter, Alison, and all other girls and boys with these terrible, sickning eating disorders.



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If you don't like it, change the channel but don't you DARE tell me that I can't watch something (and think it is funny) just because YOU don't like it! Who made you God? Butt out and try concentrating on what is CAUSING your daughter's mental illness which is causing her anorexia. Most likely, it has something to do with her personal life, NOT the last tv show she watched.

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Boy, ignorance really shows its colour in you. So, when was the last time you had to deal with a person suffering with anorexia? Do you not realize that when these kids watch programs like that, it triggers the Eating Disorder. Spoken from my daughters own mouth.

Maybe you should start educating yourself on Eating Disorder. Have a good day!

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I consider vanity based "mental disorders" all part of Darwinism. Survival of the fittest.

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What educational purpose does this program serve? Yes, in alot of cases it is a vanity illness with models who compete on the runway and athletes who compete in the athletic world. From personal knowledge, my daughter is not a competitive person and as a matter of fact shuns away from competition. She is also one of the least vain people that I know.

You appear to be an educated person, however your knowledge of this illness is lacking. I wonder how many chuckles you get out of people who are afflicted with cancer and leukemia. Would a show on a cancer ward be just as chuckling?

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Elaine-

Actually there is an entire organization called Comedy Cures founded by a funny and wonderful comedienne who is also a cancer survivor. If more people could get past their fear and realize the ability that humor has to enlighten us all, maybe the taboos would fall away and more people could talk about the ills of society as well as the mental and physical ills we all must face in our lives. Comedians like Dick Gregory and Richard Pryor and sitcoms like All in the Family did as much to get this country talking about our prejudices as the great civil rights leaders like Dr. King. Dr. Norman Cousins wrote about the actual healing power in laughter. I sincerely hope you and your daughter can find lightness and laughter in your lives and that she will begin on the road to recovery very soon.

Sincerely,

-Dan

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You're a bitch.

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was that comment directed towards me? I hope not because I dont think I said anything to make someone call me a bitch.

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Not unless your RacheJones' alt account.

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awwwwwwwwwwww, did I hurt your feelings sweetie? SO SORRY!

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It's not always based on self-image or "vanity" as you put it. A lot of times, it just has to do with the person being unhappy (read: depression and any number of other mental disorders, or even just things happening in your life you can't deal with) and food being the one thing they can control in their own life, they obsess over it. I've never suffered from an eating disorder, but I do have bipolar disorder, and being that I also suffer from extreme anxiety when I am under too much stress, one of the symptoms of this is that I can't eat. So it's kind of like anorexia. Also, if I try to eat, I can't keep anything down...not that dissimilar to bulimia. I've actually been accused of being bulimic before, by one of the staff at a place I was in. Yeah, he was an idiot. Bulimics don't puke in front of others; they hide their behavior.

Anyways, I think it has more to do with your sense of humor than your sense of decency. And yeah, this show is more like drama with dark humor thrown in. People really need to stop saying bad things when they don't know anything about the subject they're talking about. The show, I mean. The other day on Flixster (a movie site) I read this comment that someone made about "The 40 Year Old Virgin." That it was an awful movie and he would never see it because it encouraged having premarital sex, something that was "against God." First of all, just that statement in itself is laughable. Even if God exists, how do we know if He considers premarital sex to be a "sin" or even "bad." You can't go by the Bible, and anyone who does, can't be that intelligent. The whole point is, that he had never even seen this movie and he was already condemning it. Anyone who HAS seen the movie knows that the message to this movie is that sex is a serious deal, not something you want to do with every person you meet. So, please, unless you've actually seen "Starved," stop saying it's an awful, uncaring show.

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I HAVE anorexia. I enjoyed the show because I could relate to the characters. Most TV show characters look like they suffer from an ED, but pretend like they are normal. It was a relief to be able to relate to a character on TV. You may not have liked it (and I understand your reasoning), but as for me, I will miss it.

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I've suffered from an eating disorder for almost 10 years - I think the show is a scream. I didn't find it triggering - I found it a RELEIF to be able to laugh at some of the crap that happens - when Sam went and got the cake out of the trash, tears were running down my face I was laughing so hard - and it felt freaking amazing to be able to laugh.

Eating Disorders are serious - but for the large numbers of people out there (like me) who undergo therapy and treatment, and are functioning on most levels - it's a fact of life. It isn't going to go away. And I'm damn well going to enjoy my starved episodes - I watch them over and over and they never get old.

No show is going to GIVE somebody an Eating Disorder. That's like saying you're going to catch depression from watching a sad movie. Freaking rediculous. If you've already got one, you most certainly aren't going to learn anything from "Starved" - in fact, you'll probably berate some of the characters for making mistakes (POWDERED detergent? Sam, you fool, always use liquid)

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This show was note-perfect, and I miss it. I understand how it could be mis-perceived by someone who never watched the show, or by someone who wouldn't "get it". But it was not about laughing about people with eating disorders. It was about caring about them. All of the characters acknowledged they had problems, and then had personal successes and failures on a road to recovery. It is just as realistic to laugh as it is to cry about a situation in which you are struggling to make decisions that are personally difficult. And it made fun not of the people, but the absurdity of the world around them, and how it perpetuated the perceptions that these people had (i.e. the joke about 5'9"/140lbs = fat, 5'10"/120 = healthy). I really wish this show had lasted. It was more difficult to take, but in my opinion, more deserving of a longer exploration than Sunny in Philly, which took the ultimate spot. I hope that any person struggling with the disorder (a friend of mine has been hospitalized twice, and I don't practice like someone with a person with an eating disorder, but I am the first to admit that I have less than healthy thoughts about food) is successful in their fight to get better. It might have been nice to see, as the show progressed, a character that was triumphing over their demons, and another that got worse. The reality presented might have helped, rather than harmed, sufferers of eating disorders, to see the ultimate results of healthy/unhealthy choices. The cancellation of the series only ignores a problem that is so prevalent in our society.

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"I admit I've never seen the show, but I have no desire to. There are some things you just don't make fun of, and eating disorders are one of them. An eating disorder is a life-threatening DISEASE, not the making of sitcom material. Plus, it's highly possible that some people will take what these characters say seriously (i.e. from what I've read, 5'9" and 140lbs is fat, and 5'10" and 120lbs is healthy). I'm glad they cancelled this show. While I personally have never had an eating disorder, I know people who have and I sincerely doubt they would find a joke about all the pain and stress they've gone through -- the fact that they could have starved themselves to death, for God's sake -- very funny. I know I wouldn't."

Guess what, *beep* I have seen the show, and I have an eating disorder, so I think I'm a little more qualified to speak on the matter than you are. You're doubts, however sincere, are very, very misplaced, because the occasional 'joke' from someone who's been there about all the pain and stress that make up the personal hell that is my everyday life is actually very relieving, and makes me feel a lot less alone. Also, the series shows how what one may regard as a little problem that can just be ignored can consume and ruin your life, ending mariages, friendships, and carrers. as well as the occasional life. And as for the '5'9" and 140lbs is fat' bit from the show, that came from a character suffering from annorexia, which means he has a distorted image of not only himself, but others as well. It's not the stating of an opinion or a fact, but rather an illumination of some of the thinking that fuels eating disorders and is caused by them.

Hell, if you had at least seen the show and then condemned it, despite the fact that you don't know *beep* about eating disorders, I don't think I'd be as mad. But jesus... you make me sick.

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While reading this I had to think of the times where I have just had to laugh and make fun of the heartbreaking and troubled times in my life.

We make fun of many tragedies in our lives and the world around us.

Comedians make fun of drugs, addicts, infidelity, mental and physical abuse, racism, RACES themselves, being fat, being ugly, being religious, being gay, ad infinitum......

So, this DISEASE is perfect sitcom material just like Seinfeld putting Jewish and Holocaust jokes in and All in the Family made bigot jokes and how people love to make fun of junkies and alchoholics.

Relax.

Laugh at yourself. Laugh at others.(while making sure you know your own faults and frailties)

I DO.

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Oh wow. Oh wow.

Honestly, I don't really see what's so great about television programs depending on others' misfortunes so amusing. For instance, my little brother is severely mentally disabled and I know there are a few shows/movies out there that mock victims like my brother. The solution is easy: I don't watch them.

That being said, "Starved" disgusts me, but not as much as some of these other members on this board who are saying that eating disorders are diseases of vanity and the like, or that this is helped by humor. Before any one jumps my throat, let me just say that I am recovering from an eating disorder (ED-NOS), basically anorexia with purging. I lost weight, exercised 3 hours a day, and ate about 800 calories a day (which is a lot compared to most anorectics). I had to go through therapy to learn not to fear food-- I was having anxiety attacks every time I tried to eat peanut butter, for Christ's sake. Anyway, I just wanted to say that eating disorders rarely are the result of someone wanting to be beautiful. Maybe it starts out that way, somebody wanting to lose a few pounds, but it's much more about obsession, control, and feeling so damn horrible about yourself that the only way you can increase your self-esteem is through food (or lack of) and weight-loss. I looked much better when I wasn't struggling with this, because the more weight you lose, the fatter you feel-- your mind starts to play horrible tricks on you, and you start to compete with yourself and feel like a failure. You don't want to be pretty-- you want to be in control, which equates to being thin.

I think the main problem with "Starved" is that eating disorders are so easily triggered. Every time I read about someone going on a diet or running a marathon, I get incredibly jealous and want to go back to my old ways, but know that I can't because I don't want to get sick again. Imagine what some of these victims would do if they saw characters on television (they could flip it on accidentally) engaging in behaviors that they enjoy/enjoyed, such as purging or overeating. It would also perhaps make sufferers feel even more ashamed of their behavior and refuse to get help, which could lead to severe medical consequences.

"I like weird. I like weird a lot."- Jeremy Sisto, "May"

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You have never seen the show so you wouldnt really know what it was about. I admit the show had its funny moments, but i actually took it seriously. It had some serious parts and to me it didnt make fun of eating disorders, although it did make light of it at times. The show made me cry in a few episodes. Especially the last one. When Sam messed up and started binging again it was very sad. The show in no way to me made eating disorders seem cool. They were struggling people, and they were trying to get better.

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