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The reason why this show went off in my house....forever


The first time I saw this show (was in reruns,) I happened to catch the first few episodes of the entire series (it was better in the beginning, by a mile.) So I really enjoyed it, and I remember wondering why no one I know has ever mentioned it, why no one seems to watch it, why it's not often discussed, why it didn't last the full 7-9 seasons that the most successful sitcoms reach, etc. The cast is outstanding. Each of them are hilarious in their own right. I appreciated the freshness of having a woman in the lead role. As I continued watching more and more, I noticed that the writing was pretty weak, but the humor of the performers compensated for it adequately.

Sometimes the self deprecating humor of Christine ("old" Christine,) was bordering on cringe worthy, but usually still managed to elicit a guilt-inducing chuckle out of me anyway. The "fml" humor is 2 parts funny, 1 part uncomfortable (and I still maintain that Julia L. Dreyfus was WAY too hot and too skinny for that role.)

In the beginning of the series, "new" Christine's age was referenced constantly with the intonation being that she's so young, meant to contrast "old" Christine. But...as the series went on and she got, heaven forbid, a few (just a few, the series didn't last that long,) years older, the references to her age took a really alarming and nasty turn. The dialogue constantly reinforces this notion that she is past her prime now (since turning 30 , she met Richard at 26 and is now 30 and that's "depreciation.." ... and countless other lines. The first scene I saw like this was when the brother and Barb were trying to conjure up anger in her, so I chalked their words up to strategy....but then there were other scenes and lines that drove that point home even in other episodes. It becomes a recurring theme. That, combined with all the comments about "old" Christine being washed up.... I flipped the off switch on this washed up series for good. By the time they went there with their nasty humor, the show was the only thing that was past its prime.

I won't have my sons and daughter growing up believing that women have an expiration date. Apparently women do have an expiration date according to some bone-headed Hollywood writers. But the solution to that is simple: the off switch. And apparently we aren't the only household who felt that way. Those lines were "New Adventures of Old Christine"s last season. When are writers going to realize that alienating half their viewership or more (especially in this particular case. I doubt if this show had a huge male following,) is not good for business...!!? Are they mentally challenged? While it's a fact that men have all the power in Hollywood as far as what gets produced... their customers, so to speak, have the final say. And we're a much more diversified population.

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Geez, don’t take things so seriously. It’s a comedy, so if you didn’t find it funny, by all means shut it off. But don’t try to instill values in your children based on people/characters who don’t even exist. What you should note is that Julia Louis-Dreyfus is a brilliant actor and began playing the role of Christine when she was 44. Now at 54 she’s playing other roles (Veep) to much acclaim. At her age she’s still going strong, still making people laugh, and commands a high salary for her work – so take THAT Hollywood! I’ve just started bingeing on this show and love it?!

Don’t confuse the character with the actor. Seinfeld is one of the best shows ever, yet the characters had flaws and made judgments and poked fun at every persona there is – and even had a “Contest”. Same with Friends, Golden Girls, All in The Family, etc. If you want to project “values” to your children, you should probably stop watching TV altogether, or take a trip back to Mayberry and the Andy Griffith Show. Television is not a tool for raising kids, and if you want them to have strong ethics and values, that should come from you – not strangers on a flat screen. Because truth be told, most programs on TV have no worthwhile values for teaching anyone how to live their lives. You can’t shield kids from everything objectionable unless you lock them away in the attic, but you can teach them to have pride, intelligence, and be confident. Relax!


My date last night was awful. And then he wouldn't even spend the night.

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But don’t try to instill values in your children based on people/characters who don’t even exist.


Don't tell me how to raise my children.

If you want to project “values” to your children, you should probably stop watching TV altogether,


You're quite the television watcher just based on the aforementioned sitcoms you're familiar with. Are you insinuating that you don't have values, your parents didn't raise you with values? There's nothing wrong with television programming as a pastime for families. Not the only one, but one of them certainly. Again-- you raise your children, should you have or one day have them, your way and I'll raise mine my way... 

Television is not a tool for raising kids,


Yeah I definitely didn't say it was. You completely misinterpreted my intentions.

It is a presence in the home, however. Or at least in our home. And I won't have it espousing negative, sexist messages about women or races or anything. This would be like ejecting a person from your house who is using gruesome cuss words or sexual innuendo in front of your children. He or she would have to go.. much like turning off a television program that brings up with age of a woman, in a negative context, ad nauseam. It also kept making the tired, lame joke that she's depressed to not have a husband and plenty of other negative, not to mention embarrassingly unoriginal, tropes.

Television is not a tool for raising kids, and if you want them to have strong ethics and values, that should come from you – not strangers on a flat screen.


Yeah I'll instill values in them for sure...and I'll turn off TV shows that contradict those values at the same time.

You can’t shield kids from everything objectionable unless you lock them away in the attic,


No but I'll do what I can while I can. By your logic, let's just not shield them from anything, since we can't shield them from everything.

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This has been a recurring theme with Hollywood for a long time. It's frustrating. But, I think female viewers and actresses have to be the ones who change things.

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Honestly, I just took it along the same lines of jokes they made that obviously weren't true. They always said Christine's house was a dump, that she was old/fat, Richard not having enough hair to have lice/bald jokes (his hairline is receding but they acted like he was totally bald), stuff like that. Of course New Christian wasn't old. Heck, Old Christine wasn't old either.

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Quit whining.

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No whining. Just decision making and discussing the thought process on a chat forum. Whining would be asking for networks to stop airing this show in syndication. I didn't do that.

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I took all the humor about age to be a way of saying that ageism is stupid. It was a way to bring attention to it and poke fun at it. Clearly "New" Christine was still very young at 30 and the idea that she wasn't is an outdated one. The writers were poking fun at that. Same with Christine's self-disparagement, although that was also tied in with how her character was generally negative about herself.. If anything, the comedy backs up your values.

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....you're just a bored soccer mom raising some snowflakes, aren't you Jupiter555555? Good luck with that, church lady.

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