Utterly Absurd


So now we know. The British authorities are secretly manufacturing heavy water so that they can plant plutonium in an unnamed country as an excuse to invade. The evildoers believe that this is necessary to protect us all from nasty Guardian readers. Hurrah! Let's hear it for those heroic lefties! Who wrote this, George Galloway? As much as I would like to put Blair or MI6 in the frame for this one, even I don't believe that they are capable of this.

The whole series has been daft and despite its attempts at po-faced gravity, works better as a comedy. The dumpy bodyguard is an especially fine comic creation - She looks like she'd struggle to protect Stewart's bald head from the rain! Patrick Stewart is a fine actor and surely he deserves better material than this. Please ITV - no second series and employ better writers.

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Yeah, but at least I got to laugh at that idiot who thought water could cure cancer.

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jstopard, not water... HEAVY water. Huge difference. This is an oversimplification, but basically, heavy water is radioactive water. I'm sure you've heard of radiation treatments for cancer? No doctor or scientist would ever recommend the ingestion of heavy water for any reason, of course, but when artistic license is applied, it isn't all that farfetched an idea that this particular kind of water could, indeed, decimate a tumor. At least not too farfetched for a TV show.



Nature, Mr. Allnut, is what we are put in this world to rise above.

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OK, OK, but like I said, it's fantasy. It's TV. That which is bollocks in reality can make for fun and interesting stories on television. :)

As for the actual properties of heavy water, I'm no scientist, so I apologize for misspeaking and misinforming. I just know that heavy water is not the same as drinking water. It contains deuterium, and it is used in various nuclear applications. I wrongly assumed that meant it was radioactive.

Apparently, you can drink it without getting sick from it, but drinking enough of it would eventually lead to poisoning, so generally, it's just not meant for consumption. And that was my point... that the character's cancer was not cured by mere water, but by a very particular type of water.

We aren't meant to drink it as a beverage, but in a fantastical TV plot, it's fun to think that such an unusual substance could cure a character's cancer in a particular situation.



Nature, Mr. Allnut, is what we are put in this world to rise above.

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You don't seem to know the simplest things that are going on in your country, do you mate? If they can manufacture Nukes in Silchester (Reading) and go with the Americans to invade Iraq (while totaly pissing on every other country that REALLY needs help) for oil to make the bigshots wealthier than they can probably do that too.

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c-eriksson82

You sound like a typical_I_love_my_politicians_swede too me, care to prove me wrong?

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You sound like a typical bipedal lung-user, care to prove me wrong?

Good job on totally missing the point, dillhole. "I know 1+1 is 2, so I HAVE to be right about that other retarded thing i uttered"

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C-eriksson82

I know what's going on in my country, and I don't like it very much. That doesn't mean, however, that I'm going to believe every wild conspiracy theory out there, no matter how much I'd like to. It's called maintaining rationality and perspective. You, on the other hand, lap it all up. If I told you that Bush and Blair ate babies for breakfast, you would not only believe it, but claim they ate cute puppy dogs for seconds. This is because you are a fantasist whose hatred of the West knows no bounds, like the writer of Eleventh Hour.

Mate.



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Well, Bondbrain..

I dont think that you SHOULD "believe every wild conspiracy theory out there". It is a TV show, for god's sake, not a public attack on your country.

The show needs to be interesting, full of consipracies and hipocrits to be a good show of this type. I doubt that you would like watching Stewart running around against some local market thieves...

Nope, I love the series, and am eager to see season 2.

And btw: u have NO idea what your leaders are doing; but probably manucafturing heavy water to plant weapons as excuse to attack is a LESSER undoing of theirs...

Don't listen to media; read some facts and use your head!

You really thing ppl landed on moon? Hollywood, my dear...
TV and newspapers - tricky bithces :)

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Here we go, another fantasist who hates the West. This one even trots out the Americans faked the moon landing theory. It just cuts you up that the Americans achieved this, doesn't it? With a name like yours, I can guess why!

In these volatile times, dramatists need to show some responsibility before they accuse governments of outrageous activities, unless they have proof. The problem is that there is always a gullible West hater like stgpetrovic around, who will take it all seriously, and then make further exaggerated accusations as he has done in his post. I wonder if he would have been as entertained if the show had attacked left-wing interests.

As a Brit, I found it offensive and ridiculous. The British government has an open nuclear weapons policy. It would never manufacture such weapons in secret even if it were so inclined, because the hardware and personnel involved would mean zero chance of getting away with it. If it was in the business of planting weapons, this would have been done in Iraq to save face. I would ask YOU, to use your brain sgtpetrovic, but its obvious that you are so prone to flights of fancy, that I fear what you might come up with.

By the way, this series has got what it deserved and has been cancelled, so you can wait till doomsday for season 2. The show has been widely panned by critics for its ludicrousness, while viewers voted with the off button. Naturally, you will see this as yet another conspiracy by Western leaders. Meanwhile, please keep us entertained with more evil plots by the West. I hear that Blair is planning a raid on my local cafe to steal the oil on their chips.

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I enjoyed the series as a whole, although it did get very wobbly in places. The episode "Kryptos" was all over the place from stem to stern and should have had a full rewrite or been scrapped. The episode Bondbrain is having conniptions about, "Miracle," was pretty intriguing up until the denouement. Then Roy Marsden leapt out of the shadows, metaphorically twirling his moustache, and the wheels fell off the plot.

That said, I was under the impression that Marsden's character Drake represented a cabal within MI6 that was very keen on not looking like idiots the next time WMD failed to turn up where they were supposed to be. I don't recall anything suggesting that the government was complicit beyond Drake's firm belief that they would approve in principle if they knew although, paradoxically, the government would have no choice but to close down the operation if they _did_ find out.

Intelligence and security agencies _do_ commit villainous anti-democratic actions behind the back of government; the recently revealed papers released under the forty year rule show that Harold Wilson actually wasn't being paranoid -- MI5 really was out to bring down his government. With a more certain hand ("Edge of Darkness" leaps to mind) such scenarios can make compulsive fiction. A climax that pretty much involves a double-dyed villain popping up in a sulphurous cloud to sneer at the protagonists, however, falls short.

In parting, I would also suggest that it is not only perfectly permissible to question the actions and motivations of one's government and allies in a democracy, but a civic duty. To regard such questioning as unpatriotic, to subscribe to the moral bankruptcies of "my country, right or wrong" and "you're either with us or against us," is to sleepwalk your way into tyranny. The episode "Miracle" may have been staggeringly inept in its third act, but the point it was attempting to make was, is, and will always be valid. Who watches the watchmen?

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Bond, you're right, of course. Not only about how gullible Europeans seem to be (they are vying with the Islamics on the gullibility scale), but how they think that entertainment means feeding their lazy brains with the same kind of tripe they already believe. The most popular book in France is a book that proves that there was no airliner that crashed into the Pentagon. Then the conflating of several things like a TV show's idea of reality with their own view and the views of people who want so desperately to believe the worst about the West (an idea reserved essentially for the bored middle-class children of bored middle-class parents whose families now have been living in relative comfort for at least three or four generations and most especially in Britain and Sweden, where they live so deep in the womb of the Mother State that all realities are mixed together and muffled by the sound of Big Mummy's beating heart), and you have people buying into ideas that are too far-fetched to make a good TV show. To work, conspiracy tales have to make the conspiracy at least plausible. For most of us whose bulls*** meters still work, it's a little harder to get us to that magic tipping point where we can willingly suspend disbelief. Hence, we think shows like this are idiotic. They don't work dramatically because they are too ridiculous. Better that we watch a great show like Farscape than this fatuous swill.

"Technically, a foetus is medical waste; there's no murder here." Patrick Stewart's character says. The Inspector doesn't bat an eye. Then Stewart pins it down for the D.I. "Planting an embryo into a woman by any other means than in vitro fertilisation is a very serious crime indeed!" By God, sir! You're absolutely right! Killing the foetus (if anyone of the lazy-minded Mummy's boys who wrote this crap would look up the word "foetus," they would find that in English it means "offspring." That makes it a good deal more than medical waste) is nothing compared to the illegal implantation of a foetus into a woman.

In the novel 1984, the most powerful implement of coercion was torture and public disgrace followed, after a certain interval of relative ease, by death and disappearance not only of the body but of the memory as well. But the most powerful implement of inertia was the Ministry of Truth where anything but Truth was honored and truth was created anew every day as history was burned and dropped down a shaft. The grease that made this possible was Newspeak in which things were called their opposites. This plot here in 11th Hour is a classic Newspeak plot. Boys, I gotta say this: Slowly but surely, the culture is crumbling, not under the heel of American fascism as is so popularly thought by the Mummy's Boys, but under the layers and layers of soft blankets that are laid on top of the average European citizen gratis by the all-powerful EU Socialist State until full-blown totalitarianism - in this oddly muted form - is a fait accompli. I would say God Bless you to the Swedes but I am certain that God has fled Sweden before the New Realists of Greater Scandinavia burned him at the stake. And while he may yet reside in England, it is in an uneasy repose with an archbishop who would glady sell him down the Thames for one thumbs-up and a "Way to go, Canterbury!" from an important member of the Muslim Council of Britain.

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Thank you Bondbrain and Kalamata! It's refreshing to hear there are still thinkers somewhere in Europe. You've given this American hope.

I had this show tivo'd (from BBC America)... but I will not be watching. Thank you for clueing me in to the heavy-handed politics in this show, and saving me six hours.


The Doctor is out. Far out.

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LOL! Well said Popeye.

This lot take themselves and their posts way too seriously. Its an axed TV series with some terrible dialogue, direction, and plotlines. And Im sorry, but Patrick Stewart has never been a good actor. He can deliver the Bard but is hammy in every other role. Thats why he flopped in hollywood and came back to UK to ham it up on ITV and flopped again...

Lets not get carried away.

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It's supposed to be absurd. It's science fiction. You don't think that the creators of the X-Files wanted you to believe that the US government was in league with aliens from another planet, do you? Then why do you think that this program is intended to be taken any more seriously than that? It's just a TV show. Relax and enjoy it on its own terms. Or don't. It's isn't a documentary, after all.

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Aliens? No. Earthlings, on the other hand, not that absurd at all. It's happened before. No comparison here.

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