by this movie. i could only watch under an hour of it but wow, it makes me so sick inside at the thought of this happening to ANYONE, especially the young young girls, honestly i cant even express my sickness toward the people that are head of these "businesses". anyway i really feel slightly traumatized by just watching those scenes i dont know what to do, is there anyway anyone can help these women??
shareAnyone who was truly traumatized by this made for TV piece of trash is ridiculous. I watched this movie when it came out years ago, and instead of being 'shocked' and 'appalled' like the director wanted me to be I found myself laughing out loud at how absurd it was. If it was supposed to drive me to action it failed miserably. The only thing it drove me to do was to grab another beer during each commercial break and laugh at how stupid Mira Sorvino looked on my television.
Also you are quick to criticize these 'sick' people, but believe it or not there are people out there who CHOOSE to enter prostitution as a means to support themselves. Brothels offer them protection from the streets and a bed to sleep in at night. Traffickers also have families they must support and for the low level movers its the only way they can survive. Tell me you wouldn't do everything in your power to put a roof over your families' head and food on their plate in a desperate situation.
The series depicts a very real, active commerce of human beings. In this case, none of those who are trafficked have chosen to do this. It is a forced circumstance to "pay off" a falsified debt. It is slavery. It is slavery because human beings are stripped of their rights and are forced into labor of the most abusive kind. In fact, it is estimated that there are more sexual slaves in the world today than there were slaves during the African slave trade in early U.S. History.
There is a clear difference between a human being who is trafficked against their will and a prostitute (who still may be in fear of her "pimp" or whatever we want to call it). Even then, what little girl tells her Mommy or Daddy that they want to be a prostitute when they grow up? Or what parent aspires for their child to pursue such a "profession?" It is simply a deception that all prostitutes want to do what they do.
Part of the reason this type of a problem exists is because poverty and excess exist in our world. I understand that sometimes illegal activity is a result of the most strenuous of circumstances. However, to believe the idea that human trafficking is okay for the support of ones family is downright barbaric.
Human trafficking is the buying and selling of human beings. In order to do this, one has to reduce human beings from their dignity and worth to no more than an image, a commodity with a barcode. It is sad that one can come up with any supposed reasoning to justify human trafficking.
Below are a list of websites regarding human trafficking which will back up what I am saying, and provide a resource for those interested in the topic:
http://www.tradethemovie.com/get_involved.html
No, you're right. What is TRAUMATIZING is that there are people like YOU out there who are highly uneducated about the issue/situation at all. When my previous boyfriend went to Bangkok to minister to people out there, he encountered some of this first hand. Twelve year old girls being ripped from their families, men with big guns and rape on their minds. And you sit there drink a beer and laugh at Mira Sorvino? Honestly? People like you are WORSE than the people who commit the crime. Because you sit there and think anything trying to depict the issue is FUNNY, and that is simply IN-human.
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v-mck, you're ignorance is the most traumatizing thing I have read in this thread. This movie's goal was to portray a very real and very heartbreaking issue, and you choose to laugh at it? I have to say, that is pretty sick.
You contend that there are people who choose to enter prostitution, but the fact is, this is far worse that prostitution. This is sex slavery - the victims of this crime don't support anyone with the NOTHING they earn! IT's people like you that are the reason that trafficking is so big. As far as defending traffickers, that is truly twisted. There will never be any justification for treating other human beings this way.
v-mck - you're sick that you can laugh at that film.
it tells of very painful and real stories.
I think v-mck should read this book...
Smuggling and Trafficking in Human Beings: All Roads Lead to America
by Sheldon X. Zhang (Author)
wow, I came back to check on this thread and I can't believe people responded.
Listen up everyone. This movie was TAME and to put it lightly, the movie sucked. The acting was atrocious and Mira Sorvino infiltrating the group by going undercover was one of the most ridiculous things I have seen on film. You are the same people who probably thought "Every Mother's Worst Fear" was traumatizing. If the goal of these directors is to call people to action then don't turn a serious topic like the topics in these two movies into Hollywood overdramatic pieces of garbage. It was EASY for me to laugh at this movie because the storyline got so out of hand.
Vmck- how is the storyline out of hand? is it because its too unbelievable to be true? then i suggest you do a bit of reading into the real life accounts of women who have been trafficked and escaped. the absolute hell they have endured is enough to make you want to rip the hair from your own head. i happen to believe that the movie was done in a way that shocks the viewer into understanding just how horrific the situations are for women like those in the film. and lets get something out of the way. yes, some women do CHOOSE to become prostitutes, they choose to sell sexual services for money. however, what human trafficking displays is NOT PROSTITUTION! it is systematic rape and abuse, wether they were paid or not it was completely AGAINST their will! This was the rape of children, pedophillia, but not prostitution! Children cannot consent to accept sex for money. Can you comprehend that? No woman depicted in this film wanted to sell sex for money, one woman was tricked by someone she thought loved her and he in turn SOLD her, young girls were auditioning to be models only to find themselves in a foreign country with no hope of escaping, how many AMERICAN girls do you know who have gone on modeling auditions? The only crime committed by any trafficked person in this film was that they trusted someone. this could happen to girls here, in the US and i'd bet anything that it already has. each woman in this film ended up in a impossible situation and was decieved from beginning to end, this is not the same as a woman who makes a conscious decision to sell sex and who goes through with it. your own opinion about the acting in the movie may or may not have its merits but what you are not getting is the essence of the film, the message that is trying to be conveyed is that this is a global problem and it is growing worse every day.
FYI not every human being on the planet would resort to as cruel and evil methods as those employed in human trafficking to make money regardless of their situation. I would rather rob and steal than sell another human being into slavery, so do not lump us all in with your idiotic conclusions.
"Tell me you wouldn't do everything in your power to put a roof over your families' head and food on their plate in a desperate situation."
I'm telling you, I would let my family go homeless and starve before I would sell a women, a child even, into sex slavery. Neither situation is ideal of course, but I would NEVER under any circumstances take any part in anything like that. I don't know how you can sit and laugh at Mira Sorvino, much less defend the scum responsible for such situations knowing that this is happening right now, all over the world. that's sick.
The OP's question was not answered. What can WE do to help? I'd like to know too.
It's only our life of privilege that enables us to make sweeping comments such as these. Until your child or lover dies in your arms from starvation, it is a horror that you and I will never be able to understand. As such, don't pretend to be so much better than the parents who sell their children - many are ignorant to the true realities of what their children are being sold into.
Our ethnocentrism will only perpetuate the cycle.
ugh i totally agree with you. i would never do that just to get more money or a home. that is just disgusting. i would become a willing prostitute myself before selling children into sex slavery. choosing to have sex for your own pocket money, & sometimes a ton of it, is completely different than being forced into being used & treated like this. the only thing they're paid in is violence & rape not money. seriously what is wrong with people.. >_<
the only way i could see possibly being able to justifying doing that is if someone threatened to kill or take your own children & sell them into slavery if you didn't comply or some crazy situation. at least that would be more understandable since most people would do anything to keep their kids safe.
This is a very remarkable TV film and trust me, I know what reality is: i'm a journalist, already investigated human trafficking in europe and I love european movies about themes like abortion, sexual violence... My first idea when I watched this miniseries was that it was very amateur, but once I started paying attention I thought that for a very low budget film this is a lot better and more realistic than most of expensive Hollywood films about these kind of themes. The canadian actors are amazing, and although some scenes looked clichéd, reality is also sometimes clichéd. If you're looking for an expensive full of effects movie, written by a star writer like Alan Ball, this is not your film. But it's a pretty honest one, with a powerful message, and it should be watched for it is.
shareThis film cinematrographically isn't really a good film, because the action is quite obvious and there is a certain ingenuous characterization of good guy/bad guy, and so on...
But saying that a film like this makes someone laugh????????
Imagine someone who kidnaps you, and steals all your inocence and your childhood, your right to learn, your happiness. You would be FOREVER a traumatized child/man! This thing really happens, not with the "simplicity" that the films suggests (at least in USA), but in 3rd world countries I believe it is really simple! Poor people don't have power, and rich people abuse them.
v-mck, I can't believe someone laugh about that, even if it is only for the film itself, because the message is so scary, so bad, that makes everyone think about the world we live in...
Grow up, will you?
To anyone who defend scum bags like the guys in the movie who abused these girl's and women's is big coward
DarkAlessa now the end of day and Iam the Reaper:silent hill
Listen up everyone. This movie was TAME and to put it lightly, the movie sucked. The acting was atrocious and Mira Sorvino infiltrating the group by going undercover was one of the most ridiculous things I have seen on film. You are the same people who probably thought "Every Mother's Worst Fear" was traumatizing. If the goal of these directors is to call people to action then don't turn a serious topic like the topics in these two movies into Hollywood overdramatic pieces of garbage. It was EASY for me to laugh at this movie because the storyline got so out of hand.
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Duh! The movie was tame because it was made for TV. I agree that acting wasn't all that great, many things I can nittpick on, and wasn't that traumatizing (to me anyways). But it gave insight to people who don't think this happens around the world. Or never thought about it. But I'd love to see a real Hollywood movie done more seriously. Taken came pretty close. But that was more of an action film.
The movie was written well for as movies everything is fast, the main guys are in a very public business and unless written in the script no one sees who is watching them. Ok get rid of the hollywood makes of real things; it puts out to people like that one woman that didn't know of this. This isn't brought out to the nightly news maybe not for much attention. It is out there in newspapers, local news, blobs and such. Don't blame the actors so fast for the movies for as I have gotten older I learn that directors, editors, writers and budget can hurt a movie. Mira Sorvino is a very good actor but for some that don't like her acting that would be a no, what I have read about her preparing for movies is that of a top notch actor. She does the best anyone will let her do. Mainly why do people watch a movie, unless paid for to watch the movie, they don't like then blast how bad everything is. Just don't watch the movie if so try not drunk or drugged up.
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Hey V-muck. You're lucky I don't know your real name or your address because I would be calling the authorities on you right now to go over to your place and check things out. I would say it's very likely you are a pedophile or a rapist or have some other sick, disgusted perversion in which you delight in other people's misery. It's guys like you that give men the stigma of only caring about their own selfish indulgences and can laugh about it when it causes women or children pain. Well, I'm here to say not all men are like you, Thank God. I have a daughter and it's guys like you that truly creep me out.
Kevin
What's traumatising for me is that there are people out there with opinions such as yours vmck. how'd you like to know that your mother,sister or wife was one of those women?? i suppose you would say something like,"well if it's putting food on my table,who cares." sick,you are.who gives a fxck whether the movie had giant plotholes or whatever,that wasnt the point.the point was awareness..to open the eyes of people sitting comfortably on their couches not a damn in the world to the sheer horror that is raging out there.i would show this film to everyone if i could.everyone should see it.when you know the kind of predators it have out there you at least know where your standing.if you were snatched and forced into prostitution and didn't have a clue it would be more traumatising.
you sound like a pimp.if you aren't you have the qualifications.
This is your life and it's ending one minute at a time.
i seriously think that if V-MCK were to have his beer and tv confisicated, and any other lifes pleasures he feels, he could then maybe compare slightly even remotely understand what having your freedom taken away from you feels like. I know its a very poor thing 2 compare but sick people like him can only understand it this way......
beside tv drama is a way 2 send messages across to the public. each to their own some watch documentries some watch movies and some like drama , whatever way this message gets across and if 1 person wakes up, then its served its purpose HASN'T IT?
wow sounds like you are trying to defend yourself
I bet you are just like the sick pedo/rapists in the movie
I Need To Know
until it f*king happens to you, shut the *beep* up. seriously. i understnad your input; however, your rebuttel is incredibly flawed. theres a difference between choosing prostitution and forced *beep* labor u idiot. i'm dead sure you would do anything to kill these people if they kidnapped your daughter to make a *beep* profit. seriously, its people like you who dont understand perspectives
shareHere's an idea for you, v-mck, go get a few dozen more beer and drink yourself to death. You are such an insipid boor you don't deserve any better.
shareI tend to understand where V-mk is coming from.
Although i do find the issue of human trafficking sick, i agree that this movie was very poor. It did a good job of portraying how trafficking happens and such but the actual quality of the script, actors and storyline were frustrating at times.
I think that V-mk should watch other human trafficking movies like, Trade, or Taken. Because then someone who is obviously watching a movie for the sake of it being a movie will learn more about this HUGE issue when they also enjoy the film. It sounds really bad when i put it like that, but the director could have done a better job, after all it is a movie, not a documentary.
truth is v-mk is probably one of the disgusting men that frequent these 'brothels'.
an yes the acting and some of the story are a little ridiculus but it is n americanised tv show so that crappy hollywood element has to be there america tends to tame real life
matters like this
, if you want to see a far more real show about human trafficking you should watch sex traffic the british tv series it's much more realistic
and the documentary 'sex slaves' which one an emmy for investigative documentary
link here:
here you can watch it on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7JqbOUrRVM&feature=related
http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/sexslaves.html
and here is a
HELP THE VICTIMS: If you are interested in helping any of the victims of sex trafficking who appeared in the documentary Sex Slaves, a trust account has been opened by the production company responsible for the film. The company has been collecting donations and wiring them directly to the victims who appear in the documentary. Should you be interested in helping, you can contact the producers of the film at [email protected] for further information.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7JqbOUrRVM&feature=related
DarkAlessa now the end of day and Iam the Reaper:silent hill
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You are one sick cookie v-mck, if you honestly feel this way you deserve a bullet in the crotch then one between your eyes.
"Tell me you wouldn't do everything in your power to put a roof over your families head." -If one's life is so pathetic they would need to resort to human trafficking, rape and murder to pay the bills, just *beep* kill yourself and your family. *beep*
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You are a despicable human being. How dare you pass judgment on an individual (v-mk) who is obviously more informed than you will ever be. He/she is right - this movie is a watered down version of sex trafficking. When was the last time you turned on the news and saw a press conference dedicated to sex trafficking? Never? Oh, right...that's because it's not as easy to stop as this movie made it seem. This movie was fiction, and needed a happy ending. Most of these women do not get happy endings. Most of these families will never have happy endings.
Grow up, educate yourself, and get some class.
Wow you are one ignorant little sh*t
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Are you psychotic, or just stupid? I would starve...I would have all of fingers chopped off, actually, AND starve, before I participated in human trafficking. If I had children, we would find another way. I seriously can't even believe that you said that.
-- I am a traveler of both time and space, to be where I have been
You are a sick wretch. You have a lot of work to do before you come back as a human.
shareThe movie isn't addressing voluntary prostitution you *beep* It's addressing women and young girls being stolen off the street and FORCED into sex by their captors. And if there wasn't such a demand from the SICKO MEN OF THIS WORLD, there wouldn't be a problem in the first place. It's heartless *beep* like you that perpetuate the problem, so congratulations on that. Go enjoy another beer and watch Spike TV dude, because that's obviously all you care about.
"The unopened package was a waterproof, solar-powered, satelite phone"- Robert Zemeckis, Cast Away
Yes, but this film concerned people who did NOT choose to be in it. Sick of people (like you) who try to justify it - though we shouldn't be surprised since you found the movie so hilarious. The movie wasn't trash, it portrayed the situations trafficked women and children experience excellently. Who are you to set the tone for what should move people to action? Are YOU doing anything about human trafficking?
The OP was right to be disgusted and saddened.
Watch TAKEN. It's another movie about the same topic but very differently made. It has some very unsettling scenes but you get a little bit of satisfaction at the end.
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"is there anyway anyone can help these women?"
Yes - by not being so easily "traumatised" by a sanitised film version of the realities of life.
While you are off getting counselling for what you saw on a screen there is one less person available to stand as a mature adult available with skills, knowledge, wisdom, determination and personal strength - yep, personal strength - to make a realistic contribution.
Thank you for this thoughtful and intelligent post.
shareyeah i couldn't hadle this movie
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Uh, money? Your employer not only buys your body but even your mind. Working for the kind of hourly rate you get is what is sick.
And this film is pure sexploitation propaganda thought up by sick perverts on the level of Jud Süß. There has never been a case even close to something like this in the US. Illegal slavery simply doesn't make sense as a business. ICE just funded this trash to divert from the real slavery that it helps organize: millions of South Americans coerced into working for low wages in the farm, construction, childcare, and restaurant industries.
"Human Trafficking" is a hoax by the NGO racket to raise money so they can stamp out prostitution because they are all a bunch of prudes. These very profitable "Non-Profit" organizations are nothing but a bunch of Christian missionaries and man hating lesbian feminists LYING to the public about the reality of prostitution and replacing it with a ridiculous Neo-Victorian narrative. Most people are provincial and don't know just how big the big lie is. After all, there are people out there who believe aliens from outer space are giving struggling horror novel writers anal probes on their flying saucers. There are also people out there making a living peddling such nonsense like "Bigfoot," the "Bermuda Triange," and "Human Trafficking." V-mck is the only one here with a brain.
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