Hidden Racism


The judges seem to be so amused by Tregaye's every action because they don't realize it is an act, a stereotype, a caricature. They seem to be white people who haven't spent much time with black people so her act is fresh and new to them. Black people do not act like that in general. You could see her husband looking at her and thinking, "what the hell are you acting like this for?" They judges don't realize that they are pandering to her and expecting less of her simply because of the color of her skin....which is racist. But instead they think of themselves as progressive or open minded but are truly judging her by different standards. That isn't equality. That is simply thinking someone is capable of less because of skin color so they get a pass. Black people are just as capable and should not have less expected of them or given a pass when acting a fool like see does in her presentations.

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Well if Tregaye is smart enough to portray herself in a caricature, stereotypical way to appeal to Whities more power to her, it is all about doing what you gotta do to win and get the prize at the end of the line.
I personally think the judges just like her. nothing more.

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They judges don't realize that they are pandering to her and expecting less of her simply because of the color of her skin....which is racist. But instead they think of themselves as progressive or open minded but are truly judging her by different standards.



You just described all the limousine liberals and white guilt snowflakes in the country. They truly believe they're all open-minded and accepting, when in fact, all that pandering does is reward the ratchet stereotype, which, in turn, perpetuates it.

It's downright embarrassing to see Giada and Bobby fawning over and laughing at Tregaye, saying how "it's hers to lose" as they sadly mistake her juvenile and cartoonish antics as some form of professional presentation.


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If you recall, B & G suffered so much angst when they canned Yaku. They said they couldn't bring themselves to do it.

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If you recall, B & G suffered so much angst when they canned Yaku. They said they couldn't bring themselves to do it.

That likely had nothing to do with race and more to do with the fact that he was a better chef and contestant than several of the remaining ones. Sure, booting him for food was legitimate. But when they use that reason to boot a good contestant who simply made a mistake it underscores their lack of consistency in using that reason. And it just highlights how their judging is less about choosing the best person for the job and more about keeping the drama going.

In short, they knew they were wrong for booting Yaku. (They keep bad food cookers all the time.) Whether it was their decision or that of the producers.


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I am black and honestly she annoys me soooooooooooooooooo badly. She is extremely immature and her English is horrific. It is an embarrassment, and to have Jernard talking about the kitchen to the bedroom chicken recipes just makes it even worse. It is not hard to find black people who do not speak like Tregaye very frustrating.

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Lorraine Pascale. I really like her. She was a judge on a couple of the Food Network Baking Championships. She's British though so I don't know if she really counts.

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But how is Tregaye anymore of a caricature than than Damiano's "My Italian accent is just so thick" or Jenard's "Chef of Love". Or any number of successful past contestants, "Lenny's Cowboy." Hell, Mrs all butter, all mayonnaise, all the time, Paula Deen, was a caricature.

Tregaye clearly has an outgoing, fun personality by nature. She enjoys being an entertainer (class clown). And her food has been well made.

All in all, I don't find her any less intelligible than Damiano. That her usage of "urban language" makes so many people uncomfortable is indeed telling.

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Damiano and Jernard both use real words to speak though. There is nothing telling about expecting an adult to use real words to speak about food. She's using nonsense descriptors and is getting lauded for it. That's an embarrassment to anyone who knows about food.

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Right. Because "umami" is has always been a real word used to describe food in English.

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It wasn’t until 2000, though, that anyone identified the taste buds on the tongue that are sensitive to glutamates (umami flavors).

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You can't be serious if you compare "umami", a word that's been established in the english language for about 30 years, with a slang like "fleek" whose only usage seems to be to replace the word "point" in the expression "on point".

When she constantly use words like "fleek", "boo", and "pop" she obviously comes across as immature and/or putting on an act. Some people (including Giada and Bobby) think that's adorable, but most people find it annoying. At least after more than 5 minutes of it.

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But how is Tregaye anymore of a caricature than than Damiano's "My Italian accent is just so thick"


The guy came from Italy not many years ago, so it's understandable why his accent would be as strong as it is. If you can prove he's exaggerating it with video/audio clips showing his accent isn't that strong off-air, I might agree.

Yes, Len was a cartoon as Jenard is, as well. But the judges didn't even try to hide their bias for Tregaye, they came right out and said it was "hers to lose" weeks ago. I didn't think Lenny should have been selected, just like I don't think Tregaye nor Jenard should be selected.

Tregaye clearly has an outgoing, fun personality by nature. She enjoys being an entertainer (class clown). And her food has been well made.


Not all of it, one of her deserts was a hot mess, and I don't think she cooks nearly as well as Damiano, who's technically more of a baker.

All in all, I don't find her any less intelligible than Damiano. That her usage of "urban language" makes so many people uncomfortable is indeed telling.


There's nothing "unintelligible" about "fleek" and "boo" and all her other juvenile invented words and ebonic slang, I'm pretty sure everyone understands what she means. I also doubt it's making anyone "uncomfortable" as you're trying to imply, it's just woefully unoriginal, cheesy, and unprofessional, no matter how desperately you seen to want to read something else into it, and irrelevant to the other cartoon characters, past and present, who for some reason, weren't pre-ordained by Bobby and Giada.


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If you can prove he's exaggerating it with video/audio clips showing his accent isn't that strong off-air, I might agree.

Why would I need to prove this? Nowhere did I assert that he was faking it.

But the judges didn't even try to hide their bias for Tregaye, they came right out and said it was "hers to lose" weeks ago.

If both her food and presentation were well-received repeatedly, regardless of how cartoony you perceive them to be, scoring her higher than the others who performed less well in those things - how is it "bias" to say it was "hers to lose"?

She fulfilled the challenges, outperforming her competitors. Why is it "biased" to have acknowledged that fact? It's not like "yours to lose" hasn't been used in previous competitions with other contestants.

Not all of it, one of her deserts was a hot mess, and I don't think she cooks nearly as well as Damiano, who's technically more of a baker.

All of the contestants have had at least one dish that has failed in one way or another. All of the remaining 3, more than one. So I'm not sure how Tregaye having one "hot mess" of a dish somehow shows her to be worse than any of the others.

That said, I based my comment on the judges responses to her food. It's pretty difficult to tell how well someone cooks without tasting their food. On what are you basing your opinion that Damiano cooks better?

I'm pretty sure everyone understands what she means.

There are at least 2 posts I've seen today where the poster has claimed not to know what she means. Not to mention Ana said a much as well. So it would seem, no, not everyone understands.

it's just woefully unoriginal, cheesy, and unprofessional, no matter how desperately you seen to want to read something else into it, and irrelevant to the other cartoon characters, past and present, who for some reason, weren't pre-ordained by Bobby and Giada.

I definitely agree it's unoriginal and cheesy. Whether it's unprofessional is subjective. Since she's playing a character on a tv show, thus - entertaining. It would seem keeping in character - in front of the camera - is very much professional.


no matter how desperately you seen to want to read something else into it, and irrelevant to the other cartoon characters, past and present, who for some reason, weren't pre-ordained by Bobby and Giada.

Perhaps either your or I need to review the definition of "desperate" as I'm unclear how presenting my impression on this threads, speaks of desperation. Or, perhaps it merely that you are among those as desperate to dismiss Tregaye because she appeals to audience that is, well, not you. She's not your cup of tea, therefore has no value.

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Why would I need to prove this? Nowhere did I assert that he was faking it.


You said, and I quote:

But how is Tregaye anymore of a caricature than than Damiano's "My Italian accent is just so thick"


By saying it was a caricature, you implied he's putting on some kind of act, unless you want to come right out and expose your sincerity in saying people with heavy foreign accents are "caricatures."

If both her food and presentation were well-received repeatedly, regardless of how cartoony you perceive them to be, scoring her higher than the others who performed less well in those things - how is it "bias" to say it was "hers to lose"?

That said, I based my comment on the judges responses to her food. It's pretty difficult to tell how well someone cooks without tasting their food. On what are you basing your opinion that Damiano cooks better?


On the same thing, his positive feedback from the judges, too, he's received glowing reviews, without all the silliness.

There are at least 2 posts I've seen today where the poster has claimed not to know what she means. Not to mention Ana said a much as well. So it would seem, no, not everyone understands.


I shouldn't have spoken for "everyone," then. If they were exaggerating and pretending not to know what "boo" is, and all the other slang that's been around for years, that's on them, which is the feeling I get from posts like that...if they really didn't, they should get out more.

I definitely agree it's unoriginal and cheesy. Whether it's unprofessional is subjective. Since she's playing a character on a tv show, thus - entertaining. It would seem keeping in character - in front of the camera - is very much professional.


Guess it's not "reality TV", then, it's just a character being put on.

But hey, if their goal is a juvenile and urban cliché comedy character... if that's what they're really aiming for in a cooking show, she's right on target.


Perhaps either your or I need to review the definition of "desperate" as I'm unclear how presenting my impression on this threads, speaks of desperation. Or, perhaps it merely that you are among those as desperate to dismiss Tregaye because she appeals to audience that is, well, not you. She's not your cup of tea, therefore has no value.


And I think you need to point out where I said she offers "no value." She's sufficed enough as a contestant on a show with a long line of cooks trying to sell what they consider as "unique enough persona" to warrant their own cooking show. She's a dime a dozen, and part of the dozen required to make a show like this, that's her value. I just find her ratchet cheesiness completely unoriginal and NOT even close to being worthy of getting her own show, nothing more, nothing less.



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You're trying to make this political but what it boils down to is you just don't like Tregaye or people that are really that way. Everyone whose smart knows that not all Black people act and talk like her. Those that are dumb enough to assume they do are going to think that way whether they see her or not.

We don't know if she'll win, but if your conspiracy theory is true, the past Black winners would've been stereotypes as well; then you would've had a point. They weren't. Unless you're a closeted racist that thinks all Back people represent some form of a derogatory stereotype. Or maybe they all have to speak and act in a certain way to please your sensibilities.

Just because her personality annoys a lot of people doesn't mean she's putting on an act. Were all the "country bumpkin type" putting on an act, too? Shows like these attract obnoxious,,over the top, and/or cartoon-ish people. Game show always have. They've been in every season of tis and other shows like this in every race, color, culture, and ethnicity.

There's nothing wrong will simply not liking someone on TV, but getting on a political soap box over a stupid show like this is silly. If she wins or not, it's very likely that she'll be forgotten by next season like many of the other former contestants and winners.

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How can anyone say there's racism when 3 of the 4 finalists are black? Of the black winners I found Eddie refreshing and normal and intelligent. I admit I didn't like Aaron (Big Daddy) McCargo, as he had poor grammar and diction. I also preferred the beautiful, elegant Lisa Garza, or the cute, funny Adam Gertler (who has had several shows so far), or the perky, adorable Kelsey Nixon (who is one of the Cooking Channel's big stars).

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Racism is prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. For the judges to expect less of contestants and hold them to less of a standard because of their skin color is racism. Hence, 3 of the 4 finalist being black. I'm sure if the white contestants were judged less harshly and the black contestants were nitpicked, you would see it differently. Expecting less of people because of the color of their skin is the problem.

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You're implying that the Black finalists are beneath the competition because they're Black. There have been white contestant that got further and were worse than others that made it to the finals and won. The only one they seem to expect less of is Damiano. He's not Black. Look at how little they expected from Ana until they got tired of her.

Tregaye and "The Love Chef" got where they were because they were usually better than those that got kicked off.

There's racism in TV and contests but not in the examples you've given. You're projecting your own biases on the contestants and the judges because you think the judges should be shamed for not disliking those contestants as much as you do.
You find them offensive and assume that the judges \see them the same way you do.

The judges themselves are caricatures so they are judging on what they know. Bobby Flay and his Jimmy Cagney persona, Giada and her uber-Italian, prissy cougar shtick. Come on. Really?

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"You're implying that the Black finalists are beneath the competition because they're Black"

That was not at all the point and judging from the other responses you seem to be the only one who missed it. But I suppose it is an easy and simple argument for you to make. I would counter but I don't play chess with pigeons.

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You can try to insult all you want, but you fail to see how silly your "argument" is since you're examples have no merit. Keep playing chess with yourself, I'll continue discussing the show.

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For whatever reason, I think the judges are afraid to dump black contestants.

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which is exactly the point. when you treat people differently based on the color of their skin...it is at least pandering or at most racist. the lunch lady dude, joy, and the chubby baker were not given chance after chance. all had just as much ability and way more personality the chosen one. the judges don't want to be thought of as racist if they dumb a black contestant. pandering and expecting less.

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Racism, Racism. They eliminate a black contestant, they must be racist. They don't eliminate a black contestant, they still must be racist. Are you serious?

Are they sexist for eliminating most of the women, too?

Apparently only they can be racist; not someone judging their decisions because they're white.

I see now, you must be miserable.

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Make no mistake about it--at the end of the day, this is not a contest or a competition--this is a TV show. The winner is not selected based on talent; the winner does not need to be the most talented; the winner needs to produce ratings for the show.

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Make no mistake, there is open racism in Food Network. They don't need to hide it. But it is not in their treatment of Tregaye. Just look at their programming line up. It is wall to wall Guy Fierri, Bobbly Flay and endless episodes of Chopped reruns. Sure, mid-week they mix it up a little with Pioneer Women and Barefoot Contessa. Their shows do now reflect the broad food cloth that is woven in America. As best I recall the only main entertainer of color is Sunny Anderson on The Kitchen. Eddie won last year and they don't even have him on. Just a dumb kids bbq competition, really. That was not his food point of view during last years competition. This network is becoming almost unwatchable.

This season was the worst. The finale wasn't even about their cooking. It was about how they can go around the country and highlight places to eat. Wow, why have them cook all season. Not to mention the Bobby and Giada thing makes me wanna gag. At least she knows what to make Bobby for his birthday, something Damiano baked up last week.

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The judges were looking for someone with a unique and uncommon personality. They don't have Paula Deen anymore and everyone else on the network is pretty bland and mainstream personality-wise.


If you look at the type of contestants they chose this season, many of them had some type of unique flavor to their personality.

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It's very confusing because black people want to act the part of the stereotype when it suits their purposes, I guess all minorities do, and want to be outraged when it does not suit their purposes.

Also, that could just be her real personality, but nobody dares to ask. Can you imagine if someone asked her to tone it down? They would not dare.

I'm just grateful they picked her and there are no cries of racism today because they picked an Italian guy.

Anyway, white people like to feel fleek so maybe they will watch her show!

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It's very confusing because black people want to act the part of the stereotype when it suits their purposes, I guess all minorities do, and want to be outraged when it does not suit their purposes.


Wow, generalize much?

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