Hurricane Katrina


I was just watching the coverage of Hurricane Katrina and this movie popped into my head. I know the movie is far fetched but it plants a seed a fear in the back of your mind. Lets hope this movie says a movie and not become reality.

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If anyone has noticed (or at least it seems so to me), whenever a tropical disturbance is mentioned, oil futures start to rise, even if the storm is nowhere near the Gulf. And the fact that a storm is present is always mentioned in the cause of the rise in oil. So did the people who are responsible for oil prices watch this movie. It never seemed to make a difference in the past.

The timing of Katrina, the track of the storm are all parallel to the movie. Just for my own sake, I'm going to fill up all three vehicles today, Sunday, Aug. 28, while the price is under 2.50/gal. At the time of this writing, the storm is about 28 hours from making landfall in New Orleans.

If this storm comes through as it is supposed to (Cat. 4-5) and gas prices are NOT affected, then I will feel much better, but still aprehensive that a movie made me a little paranoid. Do we need to conserve? Yes. Solution? Get all those SUVs off the road. Give a $10,000 tax credit to anyone that trades their SUV in for a car that gets over 30 mpg. Hey, it's a start...

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Well, gas here has gone from $2.48 to $2.99 in 72 hours. How is that? I have seen prices in the $5.50-$6.00 range. Just like the movie. I mean they were only a week or two off as far as the hurricane goes. They said Labor Day 2005, it came a week or two before. You wonder if anyone at Fox has stock in the oil companies.

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If you read the synopsis on Fx's website, the hurricane they describe hitting New Orleans is a category six. No such category exists, category five is the most powerful. But considering category five STARTS at 145 mph and Katrina is already 175 mph, I would say Katrina is as powerful as the one in Oil Storm, though I haven't watched the movie since it aired two months ago so I can't be sure.

Who wrote that script anyway, Nostradamus?

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Well then, lexolicous, the question shifts from how powerful Katrina is to whether the Oil Storm hurricane was strong enough to do what it did in the movie.

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"Who wrote that script anyway, Nostradamus?"

Big Brother.

I am racist - against the human race.

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You know, as many logical fallacies there where in this movie, and how farfetched it was for this to actually affect the oil pipelines, they really are considering tapping the SPR and the storm has damaged some oil rigs and such.

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does anyone know where I might download the movie "Oil Storm". I saw it a few months back and it was great. I would just like to show it to some friends. Thanks!

J

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In the actual movie the hurricane was a Category 4 named Julia. Pretty close!!

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ITS August 2005, A Big Ass Hurricane comes up through GULF, A movie 2 months ago SHOWS on TV, DAMN near same situations as movie, & its just the 2nd day.
Somthings not right. BUSH in OFFICE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Be SCARED, PREPARED, & PRAY

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Blame Bush?? Thats stupid. It's a natural disaster.

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Hello??? Yes it is a natural disaster but the management of the aid and recovery afterwards is a govermental responsibility as well as PREPARING for this type of disaster. If the writers of a FOX movie can think this stuff up why does it seem far fetched that the government wouldn't have known that this is a risk and prepared for this exact eventuality. The president has already released some of the oil reserves - which is exactly what happened in the movie. Gas in many states is periliously close to $3.00 a gallon.

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OMG the movie is coming true, Everything is happening. storm hit New Orleans , gas is going up almost 3.00 gal. This just sux Look out for a depression.

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Does anyone know how to get a hold of this damn movie so I can watch it again?? I can't seem to find it anywhere! Was this a once showing only? Not even underground sites seems to have it.

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I doubt we'll see this one on tv for a while. It'll be like 9/11 when broadcasters were afraid to show movies with bombs going off, the twin towers before the disaster, etc. The wound is still too fresh.

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This was shown on FX and probably won't be shown again anytime soon whatall with all the deaths. Not too soon anyway. However, if Fox can make a buck on it, anything is possible despite the bad taste.

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Did you find it? I live in Baton Rouge saw only half of it when it was aired. Although it was pretty sensationalized it could happen. Especially now with Rita bearing down.

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But how about $4?

http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/31/news/gas_prices/index.htm?cnn=yes

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Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos more creative! - Scream
Norm

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I'm sorry but we have been on a cat and mouse chase expending untold monies and lives in Iraq to protect us against a foriegn threat.
All the time these resources could have been being used here at home over countless years to make our citizens safe from natural disasters like this (the Netherlands have spent monies to design systems to safeguard againt a 1 in 10,000 year natural disaster) and technologies to take us away from dependence on foreign oil.

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You might want to do a little research before defending Bush

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,372455,00.html

In 2001, FEMA warned that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S. But the Bush administration cut New Orleans flood control funding by 44 percent to pay for the Iraq war.


Robert

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This is very interesting, thank you for the site. I guess Michael Moore will have some new material for his new movie based on Oil Prices and the Bush Admin!

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You people really are blinded by your hatred of one man. Do you really believe that this tragedy is ALL his fault? The levy project in New Orleans is 40 years old, Bush has had 5 years. Who says that the federal government is the sole protector of each and every city in the nation. This tragedy can be laid squarely at the feet of local administration. Why is it that the city can continue the pay for Mardi Gras and not the protection of it own people. Let's all remember that PERSONAL responsibility is still a desired trait. If you trully want the government to be responsible for your very well-being and safe keeping, support the Patriot Act and marshal law... Other than that, I want my local government to be qualified and informed. Only they will know what's best for us.

Sorry for the ranting, I'm just tired of the Bush bashing without common sense playing a part...

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have you guys ever thought of some other "terrorist" excuse they will trump up and introduce martial law, then u guys (and the rest of the world) will be stuck with him for a long while. stupid ideas? well, think oilstorm!

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right, martial law for the whole US - that'd last for about 30 seconds.

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new orleans doesnt "pay" for mardi gras
mardi gras brings in money to new orleans

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That predication was around long before the Bush administration and he wasn't the first to cut or deny funding for the levees in New Orleans. Yes his response to the disaster was pathetic, but he was no more responsible for the lack of protection from a hurricane hitting New Orleans than past local, state, or federal politicians. It was years of neglect, mismanagement and corruption that led up to this disaster and the blame can't lie with the current administrations on any level.

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Do you know where we could download this movie? I saw it on FX in June. I just wanted to show it to some friends. Thanks!

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google those two words and you might be on your way: conspiracy central

by the way has anyone heard of HAARP ???

seeyou soon somewhere else

livil olivilo

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I speak for all the non-american people here. I am australian and this movie is being aired tommorow night. It sounds like the most interesting movie ever, becasue it came true (everyone is saying)!

The hurrican was one thing, but I know some other aussies who were there when it happened. Let me just say, you goverenment is not only uncaring but stupid. WE OFFERED TO HELP! So did many other countrys! But your governement not only rejected the ideas, but would even let us rescue our own people traped in the area. They said they had it undercontrol. Do I need to say anything about 'undercontrol' I think you yankes already know what happened. People died and it wasn't only the storm.

Petrol is another thing. You americans think your petrol is high? I live in a rural area and I worked it out. We pay nearly 3 times as much as you do, plus we have just suffered from a three year drought and are attempting to recover from it. Just trust me on this, you americans do not have it bad at all, your petrol and food prices are good.

Back to the movie, I am going try to record it and hopefully put it on the net for everyone to download, but no promises.

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I, for one, thank you for putting the movie on the net.

The news just reported yesterday that the FEMA director, Michael Brown, refused most of the help from foreign countries. One country wanted to flood the area with cell phones that actually worked and he even refused that. I'm sure there is more coming out today about more things this man screwed up. I just saw on the news that he lied on his resume and said he was a professor, when in fact he was just an instructor at a local community college, and that he wasn't the assistant manger of a city, but the assistant to the manager. The people in the office said that he was more like an intern. (Reminds me of the tv show, Office) There was another position in regard to him having control over disaster management that was false as was some attorney position he held. With a man who also was forced out of his last job as an administrator for horse show judges, and cost the people in this organization thousands of dollars in lawsuits, it wouldn't surprise me at all that some people might not have died had he not been in charge. If they can prove that it was his fault that some people died, he should be charged with murder. But it will never happen. Unless or course, Bush doesn't want the finger pointed at him.

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"If they can prove that it was his fault that some people died, he should be charged with murder. But it will never happen. Unless or course, Bush doesn't want the finger pointed at him."

I'm afraid murder requires some sort of malicious intent. Perhaps manslaughter or something akin to medical malpractice. Who knows. Anyway, the most they can do in this situation is fire him - which they should. Even though I think there were a lot more major failures than his (namely the mayor of NO and LA's governor with her juris-my-diction crap), Brown's the only one you can fire. A good quote from someone on the news, can't remember who: "he was acting like a private when he needed to be a general." The director of FEMA needs to have the balls to make big decisions and worry about the red tape later.

I think an important lesson from all this is that we seriously need reform in presidential appointment policy. All presidents do it, but I'm sick of politicians passing out high-level posts to their buddies instead of someone who knows what they're doing. It pains me to say it, but that's definitely one thing Clinton got right.

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Michael Brown or George Bush didn't get charged, however, the people who ran the nursing home that didn't get the residents out, are now charged with 34 counts of murder.

And they are investigating the deaths of over 40 people in the county hospital.

I wonder how many more people were in similiar situations that ended up dying.

Sheila

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This is really interesting! Americans do have opinions? I watch our news here and it sounds like everyone over there loves bush and thinks there governemnt is okay. (I know more about american politics then my own beacasue we get alot of american news). But alot of americans hate the Bush governement? WELL DONE!! WELL DONE!!

I don't know who this micheal Brown is. OR what the FEMA is, but by the sounds of it, he is useless. I know that there are a lot of people in crisis over there. My real concern is are they going to be okay? Most of the people in the affected are very poor, right? IF they have no money before this happened, how are they going to be in the near future if they survive all this? YOu have the most powerful and wealthiest governement in the world? But they don't even look after them properly? How are they going to rebuild there lives? I know for a fact, and hope you americans know this too, that your governement will ATTEMPT to help, but won't really. They will refuse forgien aid from other countries (because it will make them look weak).

So it will be up to the rest of you americans to help them! Am I right? I get this crap on my tv all time about how caring your country is, when really america is definatly not the most caring country in the world!

Please I ask this to you, stop going all patrotic and crap about how great your country is (I don't mean that in a bad way or anthing) and actually help those people out! They need you! They really do!

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I don't know where you get your information, but the US has already accepted over $1 billion in aid from 95 different countries so far. So this idea of the US refusing aid because it'd make us look weak is complete nonsense. At the most, there have been reports of some foreign supplies shipments being delayed. But even US citizens have been told that it's better to simply give money so that the Redcross and other organizations can just buy supplies wholesale rather than have to worry about the logistics and costs of receiving and distributing them across 3 states.

And as far as the American public, make no mistake, we ARE helping them. I live several states away and still probably everyone I know has either given money or clothes/supplies to the effort. Many more are planning to go there and volunteer over school breaks and vacations from work. People who can or who live in the immediate vicinity have already opened their homes, churches, and businesses to these people. It's a huge effort and it's definitely happening.

Now, we thank you from the bottom of our hearts for your generous offer of self-righteous criticism, but if you really want to do something helpful, give to the Red Cross or Salvation Army. It'll take less of your time than even writing a response to this post, and I'm sure those in need will appreciate it a bit more.

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Lots of Americans (maybe even most of us) disagree with the Bush Administration. His popularity is in the dumper; the most recent polls had him at 38%. Even his own party is dissatisfied with him, going under 50% support last week. He is widely reviled by his critics as the worst President we've had to date, which he may not deserve...but that's for history to judge.

Michael Brown (now the FORMER director of FEMA) was a campaign worker for Bush when he was running for office. He had little or no emergency management experience when he was appointed FEMA director by Bush when the previous director, Joe Allbaugh (another Bush campaign worker with no emergency management experience), resigned to go be a highly-paid lobbyist (he is now helping Halliburton secure lucrative contracts in the New Orleans area for post-Katrina work).

FEMA is the Federal Emergency Management Administration; before 2003 it was a separate government entity and the director was responsible for planning and executing relief operations for all disasters in the U.S. After 2003 it was merged into the Department of Homeland Security, which is run by Michael Chertoff (who is a lawyer, not an emergency preparedness expert) and is tasked with defending against all threats to the country not directly involving military action. That means their primary focus has been on terrorism, not natural disasters. FEMA's disaster-response functions are slowly being merged into the larger DHS, and eventually FEMA will be dissolved. That was the plan, anyway.

So what seems to have happened is, political hacks were brought in to run our disaster-relief agency, which was in the middle of being phased out. There hadn't been a hurricane that hit New Orleans in decades, so there was no urgency to prepare for one. The political hacks had no idea how to develop and execute a disaster-response plan, so they screwed around and argued with the state and local officials about jurisdiction while people were starving and dying in the Superdome. The President was on vacation (5th week!) and the political hacks told him everything was going great, so he didn't run back to D.C. to take charge until the news reports got bad. Then he ran back to D.C., kicked some butts and got things moving (too late for a lot of people, unfortunately), and went down to the Gulf Coast to personally involve himself as much as he could.

Now the people are being helped. A lot of them have been evacuated, order has pretty much been restored, and supplies are being delivered. There's going to be several investigations of just what happened, and the truth will come out because the survivors' stories will be incontrovertible proof of what actually did happen. The director of FEMA has been pre-emptively encouraged to resign, but it won't end there.

Our country is caring, but it has a long tradition of "tough love". The people in charge now believe that you don't help people by just giving them stuff, you have to encourage them to fix their problems themselves; sometimes that means not giving them things they need to survive, because if all the needs of survival are supplied by government there's no incentive to do anything on your own. They feel that government's responsibility to help the poor ends at providing the opportunity to succeed, not when success actually occurs. And there's lots of argument over how much help is needed to provide that opportunity.

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After the past few days fact seems to following fiction, just how far fetched was this movie? After watching it and the events that have been transpiring in the past several days I wonder how much more life-like that movie is going to become. It is almost scary how things are happening.

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ok here's the deal:

the movie didn't MAGICALLY predict anything, they simply said what would happen if a larger than average storm hit us during a time which is specifically deemed a season for THOSE TYPES OF STORMS in a region which IS KNOWN FOR THOSE STORMS.

That being said, what is happening down there is beyond unfortunate.

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Check it:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:S.517.IS:
http://www.theorator.com/bills109/s517.html (mirror)

Also:
http://www.carnicom.com/
http://twm.co.nz/wxwar.html

Sci-fi? Conspiracy theory? Maybe. But why establish a government bureau to reasearch science fiction?

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I watched this movie months ago and it is scary that in the movie, a hurricane comes ashore in August and later sends the country into a major crisis. Funny how it is now happening: prices are $3.10/gal where i live in georgia. Someting needs to be done about our dependency on oil or else....

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It's funny, i kept hearing about the gas fiasco, then i get home and read some about it, and this movie, even though i only watched about 10 minutes of it, popped into my mind.

I'm in Athens, it's that much here...gas is being rationed and stations are closing down early, too. What sucks is i didn't see this coming at all, and my car has like only a quarter of a tank left, heh...i'm just not gonna be driving at all this next week or so - here's to hoping the pizza/wing places will still deliver.

And yes, this does make a good case for riding bikes/alternate fuel sources/hybrid cars.

Oh no! The dead have risen - and they're voting republican!

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The oilstorm has arrived.

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This is a cheap shot to blame bush again it seems...there is too much fear in the news and people need to calm down a little

"Its pronounced Bon-Oh...not Bone-Oh"- Actual quote to a friend of mine

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But you can't deny that the oil companies helped put Bush in office and it is the oil companies that were recording record profits before Katrina and now this and Bush doesn't even exercise his Presidential power to put a cap on prices. NAAAWWWWWWW don't blame Bush!!! Can't forget the latest Energy Bill he signed into law giving the oil companies a 2.4 Billion dollar Tax Break. GET REAL

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AMEN!!!!!!!!!!! Heck, I'm a Texan and I detest the man. Even more so now that I am a transplant to Louisiana's bayou and a Katrina survivor!! And as for Oil Storm, the one thing that they neglect to pass on to the American public, for fear of repercussions, is that in Galliano, LA is LOOP - the largest oil stockpile in the US toady. Yes, larger than even what the government holds and decided to 'release' to 'ease the burden.' The oil companies don't want the public to know how much oil we actually get off our own Gulf Coast, and that we really AREN'T dependent upon foreign oil at all! That is why if Port Fourchon, where my boyfriend happens to have worked for the last 12 years, is destroyed, oil will go up like it did in the movie. Luckily, Venice (the other port) was hit and destroyed, but Fourchon only sustained minimal damage. The news is all about New Orleans and the flooded areas, but not one mention of our oil ports or underwater pipelines or stockpiles in Galliano is there????? Wanna know the truth?? Ask a Cajun!

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Dear God, people defending this guy make me so infuriated I just don't know....

OBVIOUSLY HE DIDN'T CREATE THIS HURRICANE AND CAN'T BE BLAMED FOR IT HITTING LA/MS/AL, BUT HE'S THE LEADER OF OUR COUNTRY! WHERE THE HELL IS HE?

Have you even paid attention to the news? Or checked the news sites on the net? Every news outlet, INCLUDING FOXNEWS, has said New Orleans and the surrounding areas are out of control and people are being RAPED, MURDERED, DYING OF THIRST! OF THIRST FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!! IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN THE 21ST CENTURY!!! And THIS "LEADER" is going to do a "fly-over" tomorrow? And land in a few places???? ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? AND THIS IS BUSH-BASHING?

This isn't a situation that was NEVER CONSIDERED! You defenders of this administration want to know WHY people who criticize this administration criticize it so vehemently???? Because any IDIOT could figure out that ONE DAY, a storm or other natural disaster like this was going to happen. No one could know when and no one could know exactly where, but THERE IS NO PLAN IN ACTION RIGHT NOW! THE PEOPLE ON THE GROUND, from CNN's reports to FOXNEWS's reporters are saying that THE PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP ARE BEING LEFT TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES!!!

WHERE IS THE WORLD? WHERE ARE THE SAUDIS AND THEIR BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS??? WHERE ARE THE EXECUTIVES OF THE OIL COMPANIES HERE IN THE U.S. THAT, INCIDENTALLY, HAVE BEEN POSTING RECORD P-R-O-F-I-T-S AS THE AVERAGE AMERICAN CITIZEN HAS BEEN PAYING MORE AND MORE FOR GAS EVERY MONTH??? SURELY THEY CAN AFFORD TO DONATE AT LEAST SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS EACH, WHAT WITH THE GENEROUS TAX BREAKS ENERGY COMPANIES JUST RECEIVED COURTESY OF THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION!!!

WHERE IS CONGRESS??? Katrina hit last weekend, passed north into the Ohio Valley Monday, WHEN THE LEVEEs BROKE AND NEW ORLEANS STARTED FLOODING, INCEDENTALLY. It's Thursday and THE WATER IS STILL RISING!!! AND CONGRESS IS GOING TO COME BACK FROM THEIR RECESS/VACATION EARLY TO TRY AND GET SOME MONEY HEADED TOWARDS THOSE WHO NEED IT!!! WELL HOW THOUGHTFUL OF THEM TO END THEIR VACATION EARLY!!! Especially after the "President" ended his MONTH-LONG vacation A WHOLE DAY EARLY (but NOT before going to San Diego to give a speech promoting the war on terror)!!!

If we don't start holding our "leaders" accountable, as they are SUPPOSED TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO US (you know...WE, THE PEOPLE?), this country is never going to be the same again!

Where are all the nay-sayers who said, "ah, this movie is TOTAL FICTION! Nothing like the devastation or gas prices shown in OIL STORM would happen over night or even in such a short time frame in the REAL WORLD!" And my particular favorite..."if something like that DID happen, the GOVERNMENT would step in and get it back under control!"

Yeah, the current "GOVERNMENT" is doing a REALLY GOOD JOB in New Orleans right now! I hope those nay-sayers and bush-fans, especially those of you living in the southeast, enjoy paying your $6+ a gallon for gas! Schmucks!

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I include a quote out of this article that I will post the link to about our Loving President.

In Biloxi, Miss., Bush comforted two weeping women on a street where a house had collapsed and towering trees were stripped of their branches. "My son needs clothes," said Bronwynne Bassier, 23, clutching several trash bags. "I don't have anything."

"I understand that," Bush said. He kissed both women on their heads and walked with his arms around them, telling them they could get help from the Salvation Army. "Hang in there," he said.

The BRAIN DEAD President didn't even know a photo op when it presented itself. He really does need someone talking to him on a transmitter (remember the debates) "Mr. President, now would be a good time to reach into your wallet and give the woman the fifty dollar bill we gave you before you left" "Also sir, make sure the camera is on you and the light is on, we only gave you one fifty dollar bill".

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBCGT9Y4DE.html

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THANK YOU, thank you, thank you robtn72 and bob ross42..... for demonstrating how easy it is for a human being to come to logical conclusions when one forces themself to use both the left and right hemispheres of the brain, as opposed to blindly following a leader who is reactive, not preventative (as well as a president can be), and A LEADER WHO IS ABOUT "MARKETING, NOT LEADERSHIP".

I'll tell you, I voted for Kerry because I was just at a loss. He seemed to be the only hope at the time. I had some hope that our nation could give someone else, ANYONE ELSE, a chance to run this country besides George "Dubya". I was hopeful that those who voted for Bush in the prior election could actually see what a mess he had made, and not continue to blindly trust him. The last time I checked, TRUST had to be EARNED.

I am one of the actors in the Oil Storm movie. I'm sure I'll be hearing from those (in an unpolite way) who support Bush, after they read this comment. But honestly, if they have been paying attention, how can they support his lack of urgency in a situation like this? Was he not so interested because he had nothing to gain from it? Maybe he was just too preoccupied with Iraq to even phathom the idea of "getting his hands dirty" and dealing with thousands of low income families who were starving and dying of thirst in New Orleans. I mean, after all, they were having to survive in their own and other people's human waste..... ew! Can't get THAT dirty, now can we? Gosh no!

The footage of him hugging, kissing foreheads and smiling that half cocked smile of his makes me ill, to say the least. Bush supporters, if you cannot see what is happening based upon FACT, then take notice of something as simple as this: When he FINALLY did get in front of these poor, desperate people, how did he respond? How did he show his "sincerity?" IF YOU WERE WATCHING CLOSELY, surely you noticed the sideways, 2 or 3 pats on the back "hug", as opposed to the "let me see the pain in your eyes" so I can empathize with you, hug. Not so genuine, if you ask me. But oh, so pretty for publicity's sake. Say cheese!

I'm also from Texas and let me tell you, I'm so ashamed of how he has represented this country and this state, that I am willing to risk any future possibilities of landing acting roles by posting this comment. President Bush is a JOKE and more people need to see that. Like my character in the movie, I also have faith in a higher power. I believe we are all here for a purpose. Obviously, THE PRESIDENT OF A NATION IS ELECTED FOR A PURPOSE. I'll give him this, it has to be extremely difficult to be President of any nation; however, from what I can tell, he is PURPOSEFULLY SELF-SERVING AND NEGLECTING HIS PRESIDENTIAL DUTIES TO THIS NATION. That calls for a simple solution... Ya Fired!

Melody

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Okay, last night, we heard Bush speaking of his "responsibility" as President of this nation in a time of crisis. That's one point for him. After all, "accountability" is not synonymous with the name George W. Bush, is it?

However, I feel that his speech writer should be getting the credit for the actual words he spoke. It sounds like a good plan but he can only be credited, once he has followed through. And what about the timing of his speech? Not a moment too late, huh? If only it happened sooner. If only he was speaking in the present and future tense when it was most vital instead of WAY AFTER the fact.

I agree that his speech is not going to be a quick-fix. It is only a speech. This will be a problem he will have to focus on for the rest of his term. I'll be waiting and watching to see what his definition of accountability and responsibility are.

Melody

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Does anyone remember the 'date' that was mentioned in this movie? I remember thinking - gotta keep that date in mind....seems to me it was September 2005 something.

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They specified "Labor Day Weekend" in the movie - seemed to recall Sept 2nd being mentioned?

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I recall Sept 2 being mentioned as well. I really wish I could see the movie again.

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i saw it yesterday and i can confirm that the date stated as the day the hurricane hit new orleans and port souchon is the 2 of september 2005.

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I am almost positive the date in the movie was September 5, 2005!!!

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LOL - YOUR RIGHT - They were off by a few days! ;)

Not that there is anything funny about what's happening. That movie had great insight. God help the victims!

BTW - Has France or any other countries sent offers of relief yet ???!!!

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Japan, Australia, Venezuela, and Sri Lanka have pledged financial support and/or personnel. That is all I have seen so far, at least from CNN.

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Actually, over 20 countries have pledged assistance in some form or another, including France. Everything from cots, blankets, and water purification (one of France's offers) to Food, and cash assistance.

The problem: the retard in office spent a few days stamping his feet and saying America gives help, doesn't receive it and that "we can take care of ourselves." Certainly this offended more than one nation, yet they are continuing to pledge assistance.

Of course, the Bush administration has done such a fabulous job in this catastrophy... not like there are babies, the elderly, the sick and disabled dying in the street or anything....

This is disgusting me. I hope that this forces the American population to realize that we are rapidly becoming a totalitarian, religious state.

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Yeah, that's right. Let's blame bush, it's all his fault. Apparently, he should have appointed YOU to coordinate the biggest rescue and disaster relief project in the history of our nation. Please be realistic. This stuff doesn't happen overnight and it will take time - obviously time these people don't have, but time nonetheless. This morning a massive caravan of aid and buses made their way into New Orleans to help those at the Superdome. Think about it and you'll realize that it probably took a day or two just to coordinate that effort alone. This is an unprecedented crisis and even the federal government can't solve it on its own.

So perhaps for a moment we could stop passing judgement in ignorance and actually do something to help. Put your money where your mouth is: www.redcross.org

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Ever heard the saying, "The buck stops here"? Obviously, Bush can't do it all himself. The beauracracy is too big for one person to run everything. BUT THE ADMINISTRATIONS VIRTUAL SILENCE UNTIL YESTERDAY WAS UNACCEPTABLE! If it was going to take a day, or two, or even three to get everything positioned and moving, then constant updates and briefings should've been made. Any idiot can see that!

Instead, what you HAD, was Micheal Brown (head of FEMA) saying that everything in New Orleans was running smoothly, comparatively speaking; Mike Chertoff rambling on about this and that; the Mayor of N.O. SCREAMING that nothing is being done in his city!

FEMA and Homeland Security have had 4 years to get disaster preparedness in order, and we all KNEW Katrina was coming DAYS before it hit. We all KNEW that it was going to be one of the worst hurricanes to make landfall this century. With all this knowledge, for FEMA and Homeland Security to be so slow in getting the relief ball rolling is CRIMINAL! How long would it take if a SUPRISE TERRORIST ATTACK OCCURRED?

You talk about how it's going to take a day or two to get the relief going. It's Friday, 4:36pm Central Standard Time and FOXNEWS has just reported that SNIPER FIRE IS STILL GOING ON TODAY! They're pinning a group of FIREFIGHTERS AND THEIR FAMILIES in a building! This sniper fire was going on YESTERDAY MORNING AT LEAST! DOES IT TAKE A FEW DAYS FOR ARMED POLICE OR MILITARY HELICOPTERS TO FLY OVER NEW ORLEANS AND ENGAGE THESE SNIPERS? I guess there's NOTHING the Federal Government can do about this, either? At least, not for a few days?

You talk about passing judgement in ignorance and start helping. It would be VERY hard for me to imagine that the majority of those people that are as upset about this as I am, haven't given what they can and still are giving...but AS USUAL WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION, NO ONE IS BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR FAILURE!!! Lt General Honore actually said on TV last night that the Government failed to plan for a contengiency such as this. This sounds AWFULLY familiar, doesn't it? I believe I've heard this before, referring to a failure to plan for an insurgency.

WHEN AND WHERE IS THE BUCK GOING TO STOP? That's all I'm asking!?

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I'm sorry that the lack of press statements caused you pain. But PERHAPS... just perhaps there's more going on than you can see on TV.

As far as the administration's culpability, that will be an argument for another day. No one has enough information about what's been happening behind the scenes to know whether more could have been done faster.

And yes, there's currently millions of people with no homes, no power, etc. There are people in New Orleans still clinging to rooftops and bridges. There are people dying of exposure and thirst. People are going nuts and shooting each other AND those who intend to rescue them. Fires are breaking out all over the city and oil is spilling into the gulf. It's absolutely overwhelming just thinking about all the challenges and things that need IMMEDIATE attention. However, I firmly believe that everyone involved is doing everything they can. And I'm sure it's a great comfort to these people that for all their sacrifice, they'll receive only criticism.

And by the way, before you start assuming that I don't care as much as you, know that two of my friends are still in New Orleans working in an overrun hospital. I of course pray to God for their safety, but I understand that this is a huge, incredibly complicated crisis and it's impossible for it to be solved overnight. All we can do at the moment is to help however we can and trust that those who organize said help will do it effectively.

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Four days after Katrina killed hundreds if not thousands, Republicans joined Democrats in wondering why it was taking so long to relieve the misery of so many people living in squalor without the necessities of life.

"If we can't respond faster than this to an event we saw coming across the Gulf for days, then why do we think we're prepared to respond to a nuclear or biological attack?" asked former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a Republican.

And this coming from the former REPUBLICAN SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep defending this Administration and I hope you fall when it does.

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Anybody for an approval ratings poll today. I would bet he is approaching 25% really quick.

The White House is in quick Spin mode blaming the head of FEMA for their failures.

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I am simply amazed at the ignorance of people that do have homes and the ability to buy gas and food and water. President Bush did not cause this problem and all the bashing in the world won't change it. Sure the oil industry will profit and sure they helped put Bush in office, but, so what? Everything is political now. The people of New Orleans, black and white, are in trouble. It doesn't matter. As for the people that lived on welfare already, they will continue to do so. Think about it. The government has been taking care of them and will continue to do so. It may just take longer. For one minute, let's think about any family that did have a home with a mortgage, and a car with a payment. Both are now destroyed and neither are paid for. The government can't help that. FEMA may find them a temporary housing but not a permanent situation. Those on welfare don't have a job, but will have a welfare check eventually. Those middle class working families don't have a check now because their places of employment are under water also. So, let's quit talking about those people that the Media insist on showing us day after day and let's think about helping all people. President Bush can not control anything without Congress. Think about that. Also, it is the biggest disaster to hit the United States so we probably weren't prepared. But instead of being so negative, get out and do something to help. Go door to door and ask for help from people that should be thanking God rather than complaining constantly.
Remember, people on the Gulf Coast and in New Orleans need EVERYTHING.
God Bless All OF YOU...
1999 Victim of Floyd in North Carolina

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Well...it's plain to see why you are a supporter of Bush. You are obviously a racist as well. Why do you make the assumption that the BLACK people that are being shown on TV are all on welfare? Do tell!

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i am afraid that french help has just been kindly refused...
but of course this wont do the headlines

"french international help refused because of profund antagonism on foreign relations topic"

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We can't forget that King Saud of Saudi Arabia just died and we are in the middle of an unpopular war. What if the new leadership start getting too much pressure to stop doing business with the US. Very possible, very quick. Our economy would be up the creek without the proverbial paddle (gas) to paddle the boat, car, or anything else that runs on patroleum or patroleum bi product.

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Agreed 100%; Do you have any idea how I could purchase the Movie? A lot of my friends didn't watch it, well, maybe only my brother and I did. Just looking for a copy.

Scary s#$t man! Being from the Gulf Coast, my heart is broken seeing all what has happened. What is worse is all of the Damned N%$%$#z (no racial intent implied).

Any way, please let me know if you know how to access a dvd of the flick.

p.s. fill up your tank, stock up on ammo, and get non-perishables. :)

Thanks,
David

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I saw this movie and unfortunately now we know how real the threat is. The premis of this movie was a hurricane knocking out a delivery pipeline in the Gulf. Katrina took it one step further and seems to have put all her chips on the table.
As a country we need to pull our heads out of our asses and see whre our real national threats lie and spend our money and human resources on efforts here at home rather than overseas.

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I agree that we need to get our priorities straight. From the moment I saw this movie, I had sucpisions that we might very well see these unfortunate events happen. Well.... they certainly did! I think it's sad that so many people are whining about gas prices going up. We need to start getting more creative and start being less gluttenous. I agree it's a shock to have to pay more at the pump, but the real issue is that we've become a spoiled, rich nation that is not interested in conserving and becoming less reliant on this NON-renewable resource. There are other options! In Europe, they pay $6.50 a gallon and take the bus, ride a bike and walk. Come on America, get off your fat, lazy, SUV-driving, McDonald's eatin' ass and become resourceful!

With all that said, I send my thoughts and prayers to those poor souls that are suffering what it must be like to really struggle - not for gas, but survival!

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While Americans are hardly bad people, I am firmly convinced that they suffer from the later affects of "Affluenza" (book/video, amazon.com). They have become too accustomed to their self-absorbed, pampered lifestyle, too mentally conditioned by the media, and too sheltered by the US government.

It is perfectly obvious why people would elect Bush, he does the dirty work, so Americans do not have to feel guilty about how privileged they are in comparison to much of the rest of the world.

Oil is becoming scarse, rather than force the American people to give up their land yachts (SUV's), drive 55 again, plan trips carefully, avoid unnecessary driving such as cruising, terrorism charges are trumped up against Iraq, so it can be invaded. The media helps to perpetuate the lie. The bottom line, the American people are generally good, make no mistake about it, but they have become like the "Eloi" of Well's "Time Machine": pampered, controlled, conditioned, taught not to question authority, in other words: completely asleep.

The American system is of course a closed one, and designed to make sure that this does not change. There is a reason why Neocons are hostile to those who are actually "awake" (and angry as Hell), they have been conditioned to both be hostile to them, but to also see them as mentally ill. This is the cornerstone of fascism: either you are with us, or you are just plain wrong.

I should like to point out that I am an American, so I am hardly an outsider here, but seriously, do not expect this to change. The one thing we all know about human nature is that people resist change to the death. The Bush admin will do whatever it takes to make sure that America comes out on top, the American people, American corporations, and American political elites would have it no other way.

The ultimate prophecy about our current situation came from Three Days Of The Condor:

Turner: Do we have plans to invade the Middle East?
Higgins: Are you crazy?
Turner: Am I?
Higgins: Look, Turner…
Turner: Do we have plans?
Higgins: No. Absolutely not. We have games. That's all. We play games. What if? How many men? What would it take? Is there a cheaper way to destabilize a regime? That's what we're paid to do.
. . .
Higgins: Fact is, there was nothing wrong with the plan. Oh, the plan was alright, the plan would've worked.
Turner: Boy, what is it with you people? You think not getting caught in a lie is the same thing as telling the truth?
Higgins: No. It's simple economics. Today it's oil, right? In ten or fifteen years, food. Plutonium. And maybe even sooner. Now, what do you think the people are gonna want us to do then?
Turner: Ask them.
Higgins: Not now — then! Ask 'em when they're running out. Ask 'em when there's no heat in their homes and they're cold. Ask 'em when their engines stop. Ask 'em when people who have never known hunger start going hungry. You wanna know something? They won't want us to ask 'em. They'll just want us to get it for 'em!

(still sound so far fetched?)

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IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIt's Here!!

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I Need a copy of this film.. Please contact me at [email protected]

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This movie came to mind as soon as I saw Katrina hit a category 5 covering the gulf and hitting New Orleans - the predictions the movie made were on the money (sort of speak). That movie also made predictions of terrorist hits etc.. to bring the fuel prices as high as they are predicted now. Over speculism and price gouging is what we see now.

Federal regulation of the fuel industry in America (in my mind) is needed to secure our economy. Many Americans blame the increases in price of imported oil to be the big factor - although it is somewhat true, the biggest factor is the way this country's corporations analyse profit margin. That is that profits are determined by a percentage of the price of raw material and increased by percentage through each distributor until it reaches the customer (most local gas stations, however, do not do this - they base their profit off a flat rate. Ie: 5 cents/gallon no matter the price.) The percentage base profits through refineries and distributers make the price go up exponentially. Fuel is still a free market enterprise in America.

There is no REAL competition in the fuel industry since ALL the fuel comes from the same raw fuel suppliers and go through the same refineries. It is therefore a monopoly - protected by lobbyist companies making huge profit margins.

I hope the government steps in (a "pipe" dream) to govern how the fuel industry defines prices. Profits need to be flat rate through out the industry.

BTW - I'm a republican and a huge Bush supporter. Probably not the point of view you'd expect from a republican - huh :((

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All I know is that 70 CENTS IN 4 DAYS IS A f&^#ING RETARDED THING TO HAPPEN IN A COUNTRY THAT CLAIMS TO BE THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST IN THE WORLD(REMEMBER 4 MONTHS AGO WHEN IT WAS TOGGLEING ON TWO DOLLARS?). WHERE IS THE TRUTH????? SOMEONE IS LYING ABOUT THE ABILITY TO CONTROL THIS!!!! AND FOR GOD SAKES IF WE CAN SEND TROOPS TO INDONESIA TO HELP REBUILD AND 33 BILLION DOLLARS IN DONATIONS AND AID WITHIN DAYS WHY CAN'T WE DO IT WHEN THE f@##ING DISASTER IS HERE????????



"BUNCH'A DAMNED JERKS IF YA ASK ME!"

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