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Anybody have any clue on what THIS movie is about?


The name makes it seem like it would be interesting.

Be youreself,say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

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as far as i know this is a romance (that takes place on a filmsooting in the wwII rome) between mccormack (a german actress), and pryce (the movie star). the director is played by hungarian actor called andrás bálint. i dont know what character molina has. its being shot in budapest (capital of hungary) for about another four weeks. half of the crew is hungarian including widely acclaimed cinematographer, elemér ragályi. i just came back from the sooting (im not a crewmember, i was there as a photographer), and made some pictures, wich are probably gonna be available in a couple of weeks on "www.moziplussz.hu". (the website is hungarian.)

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I was an extra at the shoot in Budapest. The scene was a party in a fake church which is actually a scene for a filmshhot or something. So it's a little bit of a film in a film but not exactly. I was a waiter at the party and i felt some tension in the air political and emotional conflicts were about to happen... Somehow i also felt some homosexuality in the film, but i can be wrong.

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The only clue I have is that the plot is somewhat connected to Puccini's opera "la Tosca"...the names Tosca, Cavaradossi, Scarpia ecc are all characters from it.

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Agreed. If I remember "Tosca" correctly: Tosca is a well-loved entertainer in a place and time that would normally endanger her life. She wants Cavaradossi (a nobody special painter) who also wants her. Scarpia is a politician who wants Tosca and is willing to rape her and kill Cavaradossi to have Tosca. Well, being an opera you can fill in all sorts of troubles for everyone involved.

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The plot of Tosca explains everything:
In the opera "Tosca," Tosca is a singer in Rome during the Napoleonic Era. Napoleon has just been defeated and the old regime reinstated, which sucks for her painter boyfriend Cavaradossi, because he openly supported Napoleon. In the first act, Cavaradossi is painting in a cathedral. A friend of his who has just escaped jail enlists him to help his escape from the country.
The evil Scarpia, chief of police, enters and figures out that Cavaradossi has helped the fugitive escape. Scarpia's plan is to frame Cavaradossi and give him the death sentence, then tell Tosca (whom Scarpia lusts after) that the only way to ensure Cavaradossi's life is to sleep with Scarpia. In return he will have the executioners fire blank rounds at Cavaradossi at his execution and let him escape. Tosca agrees, but she kills Scarpia as soon as he has sent the "special order" to fire the blanks.
She thinks she has beaten Scarpia, and goes to tell Cavaradossi to fall down as if shot when the firing squad shoots. He does this, and she waits till the guards leave. Then she runs to Cavaradossi, but it turns out that Scarpia was lying and that Cavaradossi has really been executed. This takes place on the parapet of the famous Castel Sant Angelo in Rome. She throws herself off the tower at the end, exclaiming "Scarpia, I'll see you in Hell!"

That's the opera. This explains the scene in the church. It also explains the title partially since one of the great arias in the opera is "E Lucevan le Stelle" meaning "And the Stars were Shining". In the aria, he is about to be executed and he is recalling the first time he made love to Tosca.

I suspect it will be a play within a play type of movie, with the opera plot as the movie and life immitating art. Filmmakers love this sort of thing, where they can heavily reference a work of art that very few of the audience members will have the culture to recognize and appreciate. I can't wait to see what they do with one of my favorite operas!

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The movie is about the filming of a movie version of Puccinni's opera "Tosca" in Rome during the spring and summer of 1939. The movie is produced by a homosexual Roman producer, played by Alfred Molina who, among other things, collects modern art (pay close attention to the scenes in the background). The production goes forward with the usual problems of all movies as the world lurches toward the beginning of the Second World War. Plot developments parallel what's happening in Tosca. The film is completed (just barely) as war breaks out in Poland.

There are many love stories, but it's definitely a film for adults, not for teenagers. The performances are uniformly excellent and moving. I had the great good fortune to see it at the Casa Italiana di Cultura in Los Angeles in April, 2006. It's a highly intelligent and literate film, which means it will be around for about 5 minutes if it gets distributed, so don't put off seeing it if it's playing locally.

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This movie is currently showing on ORBIT CABLE in the Middle East (Kuwait). I tuned into it just channel surfing one night and it caught my attention. I looked for it's next screening and watched the whole thing. I agree, I don't think the DUKES OF HAZARD crowd would enjoy this one. It is an adult flick (not meaning pornographic) and a very intellectual type movie.

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Could you please tell us something more about it?

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Its currently showing on Orbit in Qatar :) Its a bit of life imitating art, but it also shows how the climate of Pre-WWII Italy ( and Germany for that matter) affected the arts...and the usally electic / alternative persons who often frequent the arts.

I think there is a bit of "art and its sprit attemtping to shine through despite oppression" theme as well.

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excellent movie, i just watched it on Latin America HBO. It's a wonderful movie about love, war, and the passion of some people in the industry that put everything to end a movei even if it means loose all.
It's a great movie if you want to see how even at the coming of a war, some people will make all that they can to realize their dreams.

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Life imitates art is the message of this movie.If you notice closely the plot and the characters resemble Puccini's opera.

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Its about a Jewish director (played by Alfred Molina) trying to get a film made in Fascist Italy just before World War II. It shows the parallels between his struggles with the film and the opera Tosca.

there are no special effects, so the Comicon fanboys would be easily bored. However, if you like character driven movies, with good acting, then you might enjoy it.



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