4 LEVELS to the AXXON N STORY and the FRONT WINDOW scene ETC. - Inland Empire (2007) Discussion

[–] xxpo 12 years ago

So ...

what we seem to have is a situation where MRS. LUCAS or LOST GIRL has been SEDUCED by DEVON BERK ...

the WOLF Marilyn Levens WARNS DERN ABOUT ...

and then MRS. LUCAS/Lost Girl also SITS there WATCHING the MOVIE MONITOR ...

and figures out WHERE she's at ...

by having WATCHED IT ...

SO once she also KNOWS where she is ...

and she's no longer feeling LOST anymore ...

she RUNS DOWN THE STAIRS ...

and into the FAKE TWIN COPY of SMITHY'S HOUSE ...

by using the BACK WAY to GET INSIDE of it ...

and thus BEGINS still another VERSION of the AXXON N STORY again ...

with LOST GIRL or MRS. LUCAS having just had SEX with the BIG BAD WOLF ...

which also means she's most likely PREGNANT by another man ...

one that isn't the OFFSPRING of her husband ...

or THE ACTOR who plays the DUAL ROLES of PIOTREK and SMITHY ...

THE same way as DERN plays the DUAL ROLES of NIKI/SUE

and JUSTIN plays the DUAL ROLE of DEVON/BILLY

in KINGSLEY'S BLUE VERSION of THE AXXON N STORY.

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[–] el-9984 12 years ago

Ok, I'm with you on Level 2, 3 and 4. But Level #1 is not clear. Who on level #1, in terms of images/people we see on the screen in IE, are you referring to when you say "Mrs. Lucas"….is she the character we see sitting on the bed watching TV who then reunites with Lucas and the kid at the end?

Also in level #1 who is the seducer "the big bad wolf"?

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[–] xxpo 12 years ago

Yes EL

LOST GIRL ... the character we see sitting on the bed watching TV ... who then meets with LUCAS and the kid at the end would be MRS. LUCAS.

Because we also see LUCAS SEARCHING for her in that MODERN DAY AUDI AUTOMOBILE ...

when he goes to see THE 3 HALF RABBIT/HALF HUMANS who give him the GUN.

So apparently we've also got this OTHER COUPLE on ANOTHER LEVEL who inhabit the same MODERN DAY TIME FRAME as NIKI does ...

because we also have the DUAL LOST GIRL/MRS. LUCAS character sitting there watching the MODERN DAY MONITOR with the SATELLITE DISH sitting there outside the window.

So what's probably going on is LOST GIRL is the ACTRESS who plays the DUAL ROLE of MRS. LUCAS/MRS. SMITHY???

Like DERN's the actress who plays the DUAL ROLES of NIKI/SUE ...

And JUSTIN plays the DUAL ROLES of DEVON/BILLY ...

AND LUCAS plays the DUAL ROLES OF PIOTREK/SMITHY ...

AND since we also see DORIS sitting in the ROOM with the DETECTIVE ...

with the SCREWDRIVER STUCK in her GUT ...

maybe MRS. LUCAS/LOST GIRL is also the character who STABS her ...

because she was having an affair with LUCAS???

But at the same time as DORIS screws LUCAS in the MODERN DAY SETTING ...

maybe MRS. LUCAS also screws DEVON in the FAKE HOTEL ROOM on the MOVIE SET ...

where he takes her so he won't get seen or caught by the SPIES of MARILYN LEVENS???

So maybe the HAPPY ENDING where LOST GIRL is UNITED again with SMITHY as MRS. SMITHY is also an ENDING where MRS. LUCAS is also pregant by DEVON ...

the BIG BAD WOLF in the TALE who MARILYN LEVENS WARNS DERN about ...

when she says she has a WOLF in her DEN???

And that would also help to explain the other line where DERN says:

DAMN! That sounds like the DIALOUGE from our SCRIPT

BECAUSE the SCRIPT also has a way of TAKING OVER the lives of the ACTORS who play the CHARACTERS in the SCRIPT ...

so that their lives MIRROR, REFLECT, and actually become the SCRIPT???

Because that's also the kind of a CURSE that comes from playing a ROLE in the SCRIPT???

The LIVES of the ACTORS who play the CURSED PART in the SCRIPT also become a part of the SCRIPT itself???

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[–] el-9984 12 years ago

Ok, but I don't get the Doris screwing Lucas bit at all. As you have it above, Doris is on Level #3 and Lucas on Level #1. Doris is on the same level as SMITHY, and there's nothing I've seen suggesting any hanky panky between those two.

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[–] xxpo 12 years ago

don't get the Doris screwing Lucas bit at all. As you have it above, Doris is on Level #3 and Lucas on Level #1. Doris is on the same level as SMITHY, and there's nothing I've seen suggesting any hanky panky between those two.

The proposition that she must have SCREWED someone comes from her also having that SCREW DRIVER STUCK in her GUT.

Since the other 2 GIRLS with SCREW DRIVERS (LOST GIRL/DERN) ...

were involved in situations that involved AFFAIRS and some kind of CHEATING ...

this is what leads one to suspect this other MYSTERY woman who talks to the DETECTIVE may have also been STABBED by a woman who is JEALOUS ...

because this character may have also had sex with someone?

What other MOTIVATION would there be for that SCREW DRIVER being STUCK there in her GUT?

So ...

Yes you're right ...

and we see NO indication suggesting any hanky panky takes place between LUCAS and whoever the woman in the CUT OFF SHORTS and the FLIP FLOPS would be ...

who talks to the dectective with the SCREW DRIVER STUCK in her Gut.

And yes Doris is also located at LEVEL 3 ...

where she SLAPS DERN when she tells BILLY she loves him ...

but we also haven't discussed

WHO SHE IS ...

or what kind of a DUAL ROLE this other actress plays either.

Right?

We've got the LOST GIRL/MRS. LUCAS DUAL ROLE

the NIKI/SUE DUAL ROLE

THE DEVON/BILL DUAL ROLE

and the PIOTREK/SMITHY DUAL ROLE

BUT WHO is this other character ...

who talks to the DETECTIVE ...

ROAMS around the MODERN DAY SETTNG of the WALK of FAME ...

and sticks the SCREW DRIVER into the GUT of the NIKI/SUE character?

Surely this also can't be DORIS SIDE ...

a character that is married to BILLY SIDE in the 1960 TIME FRAME???

And ...

SINCE we also have 2 COPIES of DERN that roam around the WALK of FAME ...

one on the NORTH SIDE ...

one on the SOUTH SIDE ...

like you pointed out before on the other topic ...

then WHICH DERN does this character who looks like DORIS STAB???

The DERN who gives the other TWIN COPY of DERN the EVIL GRIN ...

or the other DERN across the street who JUMPS BACK in surprise when her TWIN COPY gives her that EVIL GRIN???

Which one of these 2 COPIES of DERN is the DORIS LOOK A LIKE CHARACTER in PURSUIT OF???

AND WHY doesn't one of the TWIN COPIES of DERN who TALKS to MR. K ever mention this DORIS LOOK A LIKE to him ...

especially when just before she CLIMBS those STAIRS she's all FREAKED OUT ...

and is telling everyone at the BAR how the DORIS LOOK A LIKE is GONNA KILL HER??? [/blue]

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[–] franzkabuki 12 years ago

The front yard by the Smithy´s house is obviously real, not a "green screen". If Dern hasn´t ventured off the map, off the script, there, then when do you think it does happen?

"facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan

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[–] xxpo 12 years ago

Yes the YARD or the GRASS that she steps out into would be REAL ...

which is why they would also need to shoot that SCENE ON LOCATION ...

such as when we also hear KINGSLEY saying after the end of shooting the GARDEN SCENE (where DERN has her LEGS in the SPREAD EAGLE POSTITION) ...

that they'll be leaving the FINE WEATHER of LA ...

meaning they will next go to POLAND to film ON LOCATION.

But the part where we see the inside of STAGE 4 MORPHING into that of a FRONT YARD through the WINDOW would also use a BLUE SCREEN or GREEN SCREEN for that scene.

See what I mean???

Same situation with the OUTSIDE of SMITHY'S HOUSE which would also have been SHOT ON LOCATION during the HOT DOG PARTY.

But the INSIDE SCENES would also have been FILMED INSIDE of STAGE 4.

And we also have the OTHER WALK of FAME SCENES ...

both INSIDE STAGE 4 where the FAKE TWIN COPY is created ...

AND OUTSIDE of it ON LOCATION.

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[–] xxpo 12 years ago

PALMTREE:

Hope the lawn got mowed with no complications.

DID we also have 2 TWIN COPIES of ALICE in the LOOKING GLASS story ...

WHO KEPT LOOKING at each other throughout the story ...

and one of them who also kept giving the other one an EVIL LOOKING CLOWN GRIN???

If so, can't remember that at all.

Over on the other topic ...

Someone also suggested the RABBITS are WATCHING THEMSELVES on the MOVIE MONITOR they have in the RABBIT ROOM ...

like LOST GIRL also seems to have a MOVIE MONITOR inside of ROOM 205 ...

WHERE WE SEE LANI and LORI RUN DOWN the HALLWAY ...

before LG looks over to HER RIGHT a few seconds later ...

and ACTUALLY SEES THEM RUNNING PAST the OPEN DOOR of the ROOM where she's sitting.

Then we also have DERN WATCHING the BLUE VERSION of the STORY on the BIG SCREEN ...

which also ACTS like a MONITOR ...

when we see MR. K standing BESIDE the STAIRS ...

BOTH ON SCREEN and OFF SCREEN ...

at the SAME TIME.

AND ...

LAST NIGHT ON the GEORGE BURNS and GRACIE SHOW ...

GEORGE was also doing the SAME KINDA TRICK again.

His son and neighbors were talking to him about ALL of the MONEY he's suddenly made ...

so GEORGE turns on his TV SET that also MONITORS the LIFE of his WIFE GRACIE ...

and sees her SITTING INSIDE of a RESTAURANT ...

where she's speaking to a FORTUNE TELLER.

SO George picks up the TELEPHONE and CALLS the FORTURE TELLER ...

which we also see happening on the MAGIC TV/MONITOR that GEORGE has in his HOUSE ...

and GEORGE tells her to come over to his house.

He also tells the FORTUNE TELLER who reads TEA LEAVES that he READS CIGAR ASHES instead of reading TEA LEAVES.

So ...

once the FORTUNE TELLER ARRIVES ...

then the other neighbors who think GEORGE is RICH because he's invested in the STOCK MARKET ...

also realize he's NOT RICH ...

and that his wife GRACIE has only been to see the FORTUNE TELLER ...

who told her GEORGE WOULD BE RICH ...

which was why GRACIE buys her son a BRAND NEW CAR.

So this also seems to be the same kinda thing we have HAPPENING in IE ...

where we also seem to have a SITUATION that involves THE USE OF MAGIC MONITORS inside of THE RABBIT ROOM, ROOM 205, and the MOVIE THEATER ...

MAGIC MONITORS that are also USED to SPY on other characters ...

like GEORGE SPYS on GRACIE ...

in the GEORGE and GRACIE TV SHOW???

WONDER if the RABBITS might also be WATCHING the GEORGE and GRACIE SHOW???

Wasn't that TV show also a POPULAR ONE during the TIME FRAME that the RABBITS are suppose to INHABIT???

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[–] xxpo 10 years ago

Over on the other topic ...

Someone also suggested the RABBITS are WATCHING THEMSELVES on the MOVIE MONITOR they have in the RABBIT ROOM ...

like LOST GIRL also seems to have a MOVIE MONITOR inside of ROOM 205 ...

WHERE WE SEE LANI and LORI RUN DOWN the HALLWAY ...

before LG looks over to HER RIGHT a few seconds later ...

and ACTUALLY SEES THEM RUNNING PAST the OPEN DOOR of the ROOM where she's sitting.

Then we also have DERN WATCHING the BLUE VERSION of the STORY on the BIG SCREEN ...

which also ACTS like a MONITOR ...

when we see MR. K standing BESIDE the STAIRS ...

BOTH ON SCREEN and OFF SCREEN ...

at the SAME TIME.

But since DERN's BEATEN UP looking character who watches the movie screen also ends up inside the RABBIT ROOM watching someone dancing after she's seen the COPY of herself on Screen ...

and since we also see a NAKED LOST GIRL holding up what looks like a RED BALL GOWN DRESS to her body at the start of the story ...

(like the one that we also see the ballerina wearing in the REGION ONE BONUS section of the IE DVD) ...

perhaps that also means it would be LOST GIRL that DERN watches Dancing on the RABBIT TV ...

which could also mean THE RABBITS were also watching LOST GIRL on their TV ...

since that's also what DERN seems to see on it???

So maybe LOST GIRL WATCHES DERN ...

the RABBITS WATCH LOST GIRL ...

and then DERN also WATCHES her once she reaches the RABBIT ROOM???

The curious thing is how NO ONE ever seems to WATCH TV inside of SMITHY'S HOUSE.

Instead of WATCHING TV in SMITHY'S Place ...

what we see them doing is PLAYING RECORDS ...

like the AXXON N RECORD.

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[–] franzkabuki 12 years ago

"Perhaps the 2 day time delay interval between when "the actress pretending to be a character" exposes film in a panavision camera, and "the character pretending to be an actress" gets trapped in the scene she filmed previously".

Interesting - Dern materializes at stage 4 to witness herself and others in the earlier (IE) scene right after this white flash of light in total darkness. Certainly calls to mind photography and darkrooms etc.

"facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan

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[–] xxpo 12 years ago

Dern materializes at stage 4 to witness herself and others in the earlier (IE) scene

Re: The 4 LEVELS to the AXXON N STORY and 2 REHEARSALS for SCENE 35

If you LISTEN CLOSELY you'll also see the REHEARSAL SCENE she sees ...

after she ENTERS the AXXON N DOOR in the BACK ALLEY ...

is also NOT the SAME SCENE she REHEARSED BEFORE ...

because the LINES we hear FREDDY SAYING this TIME ARE also SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT LINES than the one's we heard him saying the FIRST TIME.

One time he says something like THERE'S SOMEONE BACK THERE.

The other time he says something like NO ... SOMEONE IS BACK THERE.

And we also see this same thing happening again when DERN talks to MR. K ...

because in one scene she tells him she's MARRIED ...

and in another SCENE she tells him she was SHACKING UP.

So that also gives us the IMPRESSION MR. K has also been speaking to 2 DIFFERENT VERSIONS of DERN ...

or to the 2 DIFFERENT TWIN COPIES of her that we see LOOKING AT EACH OTHER from different sides of the STREET on the WALK of Fame.

And the EVIL TWIN COPY of DERN who gives her that EVIL CLOWN GRIN is probably also the ONE who tells MR. K she was SHACKING UP ... ???

whereas the other COPY told him she was married???

So the QUESTION becomes WHICH COPY was that of DERN who ENTERS the AXXON N DOOR in the BACK ALLEY of STAGE 4???

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[–] el-9984 12 years ago

the LINES we hear FREDDY SAYING this TIME ARE also SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT LINES than the one's we heard him saying the FIRST TIME.

One time he says something like THERE'S SOMEONE BACK THERE.

The other time he says something like NO ... SOMEONE IS BACK THERE.

Yes, that's a good observation, and it also feeds into a point sort of related Palmtree's idea (which I quite like). The slight differences in dialogue COULD be attributed to "reshoots", ordered by the director after seeing the dailies. Some of the disorientation experienced by an actress "stuck in a role", or anyone for that matter working intensely on a film, can come from the temporal discontinuity associated with the shooting and reshooting of scenes out of script-time sequence. In that kind of confusion one could be in the middle of story that happened yesterday…but it's really tomorrow…"it isn't something you remember. Forgetfulness, it happens to us all. Oh, where was I? I can't seem to remember if it's today, two days from now or yesterday."

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[–] xxpo 12 years ago

YES the RESHOOTS are also an interesting idea ...

and we definitely also have parts of the FILM and/or this story being presented to us OUT of SEQUENCE ...

or IN PIECES where there's NO REAL TIME SEQUENCE to them ...

or as the RABBITS say:

IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE TELLING OF TIME ... ???

So what do we as the VIEWER DO with this CONFUSION ...

where we can't seem to remember if it's TODAY ...

2 DAYS from now ...

or YESTERDAY???

How do we PUT IT TOGETHER in such a way that it isn't as CONFUSING for us as the way in which it is being presented to us???

DOES looking at it by using 4 LEVELS HELP us to understand it any better???

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[–] xxpo 12 years ago

Some of the disorientation experienced by an actress "stuck in a role", or anyone for that matter working intensely on a film, can come from the temporal discontinuity associated with the shooting and reshooting of scenes out of script-time sequence.

In addition to the DISORIENTATION experienced by the ACTRESS we also have our own DISORIENTATION ...

AFTER the DEATH SCENE ...

when the CAMERA PULLS BACK to reveal how we are INSIDE OF STAGE 4 ...

ON THE FAKE TWIN COPY of the WALK of FAME.

What do you think of the IDEA that the MOVIE TITLE of INLAND EMPIRE refers to the AREA or MOVIE MAKING EMPIRE that is located INSIDE of the MOVIE LOT???

So maybe the IE TITLE is also meant to WARN US that NOTHING we see is REAL ...

just like the case where the MAGIC MAN in MD also explains how ITS ALL ILLUSION ...

TAPE.

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[–] el-9984 12 years ago

What do you think of the IDEA that the MOVIE TITLE of INLAND EMPIRE refers to the AREA or MOVIE MAKING EMPIRE that is located INSIDE of the MOVIE LOT???

So maybe the IE TITLE is also meant to WARN US that NOTHING we see is REAL ...

Could be. It'd be a weak reference at best. Unlike Mulholland Drive, the term "inland empire" has no direct or indirect connection or connotation related to movie making. The reference to unreality, illusion and the inner land of the mind is pretty obvious.

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[–] xxpo 12 years ago

MULHOLLAND DR is a REAL PLACE.

INLAND EMPIRE is also a REAL PLACE (also use to live there).

And as you may recall ...

GORDY also tells LUCAS that EVERYONE HAS GONE THERE ...

which also makes it HIGHLY UNLIKELY GORDY was saying EVERYONE had gone to THE inner land of their MIND.

So this is also what leads one to suspect the TITLE isn't meant to refer to the MIND anymore than MULHOLLAND DR refers to an inner land of the MIND in MD.

There's a MIND SET that is associated with MD and IE, but a DIRECT REFERENCE to an INNER STATE of MIND isn't made clear.

MD is more a reference being made to one's having MADE IT or had some SUCCESS as an ACTOR or DIRECTOR or WRITER or whatever the case may be.

Because that's where many of those who've been a SUCCESS go to live.

IE is where the LESS SUCCESSFUL go to live. And POMONA is also the place the HOMELESS people discuss getting to on the bus as DERN lays there and DIES right in front of them. Pomona is also located in the IE area of LA.

So its also a kind of INVERTED or ANTI MD type of area as one can see by the OUTSIDE of SMITHY'S HOUSE and the other HOUSE where THE PHANTOM LIVES.

Those HOMES look NOTHING like the place where LYNCH himself or the rest of his NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS live.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inland_Empire_(California)

Physical geography

View of the San Bernardino Valley from the San Bernardino Mountains. The Santa Ana Mountains are visible in the distance.

Physical boundaries between Los Angeles and the Inland Empire from west to east are the San Jose Hills splitting the San Gabriel Valley from the Pomona Valley, leading to the urban populations centered in the San Bernardino Valley.

[citation needed] From the south to north, the Santa Ana Mountains physically divide Orange County from San Bernardino and Riverside Counties. The Santa Rosa Mountains, as well as the Southern California portion of the Sonoran Desert, physically divide Riverside County from San Diego County.[15]

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[–] bsharporflat 12 years ago

The reference to unreality, illusion and the inner land of the mind is pretty obvious.

Well, I very much agree. But probably the S. California area xxpo mentions is a also a direct inspiration for the name...

But I think an even greater inspiration is that Missoula, Montana also resides in an area known as the Inland Empire. And of course, this is the town David Lynch considers home.

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[–] xxpo 12 years ago

Since DERN also explains how she said her husband was from the INLAND EMPIRE area of LA ...

AND then LYNCH SAID HE LIKED THAT NAME ...

of course it was the INSPIRATION for the NAME of the FILM.

PLUS we also have the HOMELESS people DISCUSSING the BUS SCHEDULE to POMONA.

AND we also have GORDY telling LUCAS EVERYONE has GONE THERE to the INLAND EMPIRE.

AND we also KNOW GORDY DID NOT MEAN EVERYONE had gone to THE INNER land of SOMEONE's MIND when he tells LUCAS this.

Because that's just SILLY and ABSURD ...

even more so than anything LYNCH has ever said or done in a FILM.

GORDY definitely wasn't telling LUCAS EVERYONE HAD GONE INSIDE of THE MIND.

IT'S PERFECTLY OBVIOUS in that SCENE that he means a PHYSICAL LOCATION.

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[–] Garmonbozia8 12 years ago

Well, I very much agree. But probably the S. California area xxpo mentions is a also a direct inspiration for the name...

But I think an even greater inspiration is that Missoula, Montana also resides in an area known as the Inland Empire. And of course, this is the town David Lynch considers home.

Have you heard the story about his childhood scrapbook?

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[–] el-9984 12 years ago

Yes, that's an interesting connection. However Lynch didn't write or direct that episode.

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[–] xxpo 12 years ago

Good point EL.

You're not the only one who's noticed the ODD WAY this OTHER MILLER POSTER keeps posting OFF THE WALL stuff that comes completely out of LEFT FIELD (so to speak).

MILLER:

You have this EXTREMELY ANNOYING HABIT of posting stuff to TOPICS that have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the DISCUSSION that is taking place in them.

One also wonders WHY you are here ...

when you don't seem to be all that interested in discussing IE ...

and you also keep bringing up other films (or EPISODES of TP) instead discussing IE ...

and mostly posting about OTHER stuff that happens in MD.

If you want to CONCENTRATE MOSTLY on other films or the TV eppys then why not stick to those BOARDS???

And G:

if you want to discuss THE SCRAPBOOK ...

then why not go START YOUR OWN TOPIC about it rather than say something to try to TAKE this one OFF TOPIC ???

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[–] xxpo 12 years ago

Hey EL,

Something tells me G ...

formerly known as HEYSATAN ...

isn't the only poster around here who use to have another different posting name.

Have you noticed anything similar about anyone else around here?

Like the way in which this MILLER is slowly but surely posting SEVERAL topics to the IE BOARD and taking it over ...

the same way as someone else use to do over at the MD board where we'd see at least HALF or more of the topics there were mostly TOPICS that had been posted by ONE POSTER???

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[–] el-9984 12 years ago

Well, the only dual/triple poster I see around here is Thespear=Shastwell=Krakum.

Glad to have Heysatan back reincarnated as G.

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[–] xxpo 12 years ago

GO to the MD BOARD and take a look at the TOPIC HOG there who has started the most topics (kmiller).

Remind you of anyone you've seen there before?

Like maybe This poster:

http://www.imdb.com/user/ur23569295/boards/profile/

who's also been INACTIVE or not as active ever since kmiller arrived to take his place?

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[–] xxpo 11 years ago

BUT WHO is this other character ...

who talks to the DETECTIVE ...

ROAMS around the MODERN DAY SETTNG of the WALK of FAME ...

and sticks the SCREW DRIVER into the GUT of the NIKI/SUE character?

Surely this also can't be DORIS SIDE ...

a character that is married to BILLY SIDE in the 1960 TIME FRAME???

DID LP already give us OUR ANSWER when they said this:

THE TIME INTERVAL consumed by sending the flim clips out to the lab for processing and when the positives are ready and returned, then projecting the daily "rushes" up on a big screen so the director can see the finished product and decide if retakes are neccessary. When the POV changes it may be so subtle its hard to notice.

First we have an actress turning into a character,
then
2 days later when projected on a screen, a new life comes forward,

a character who is turning into an actress...

if that is true, then the big Silver Projector Screen becomes a kind of supernatural membrane, an alice style looking-glass, where life goes on equally on either side. On one side of the membrane time moves "forward" and events preceed their cause:

When we first see DERN enter the AXXON N DOOR in back of STAGE 4 ...

she also seems to have been SENT BACK IN TIME ...

or BACK to the TIME when she finds herself still sitting at the REHEARSAL TABLE doing SCENE 35.

But there's also a SLIGHT DIFFERENCE in what FREDDY SAYS the 2ND TIME ...

which also means it's NOT A PERFECT REPEAT again of the OTHER TIME when we first saw them REHEARSING for SCENE 35.

And the DAILY RUSHES would probably also contain several different TAKES of the SAME SCENE (probably also with slightly different things being said each time one does a TAKE).

RIGHT???

So doesn't it also seem as if the SUPERNATURAL MEMBRANE ...

(in the SCENE at the end of IE where DERN SEES MR. K and HERSELF UP ON THE BIG SCREEN) ...

actually brings us BACK inTO SYNC with TIME again ...

or BACK into a TIME where it actually REFLECTS what DERN is actually doing at the SAME TIME as she does it ...

in the same way as a MONITOR DOES.

So the SUPERNATURAL MEMBRANE also seems to be working LIKE A MONITOR???

SOMETHING THAT WATCHES YOU???

The SAME WAY as THE PHANTOM tells LOST GIRL he would WATCH OVER her if she BUYS THE WATCH from him???

Thus also making THE PHANTOM some kinda SUPERNATURAL MEMBRANE that can also CONTROL and MANIPULATE the USE of TIME???

Plus we also see the SCENE where he WIGGLES his FINGER ...

during which he also appears to be sending the character of DORIS SIDE from inside of her TIME inside of BILLY'S WORLD ...

out into the OTHER WORLD on the WALK of FAME in LA???

So wouldn't this also be the place where we have:

a character (DORIS SIDE) who is turning into an actress ...

who is also IN PURSUIT of:

an actress (NIKI GRACE) who's turned into a character (SUE BLUE)???

Think about that for a few moments and see if it won't also begin to make your HEAD SPIN or begin to ache.

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[–] xxpo 11 years ago

Here's still another example of a situation where we have character and an actress SWITCHING WORLDS in IE:

In IE, however, the ‘reality’ believed is a physical manifestation of Susan, a reality that later takes over Nikki so completely that she is no longer Nikki (or was it the other way around?).

So which way is it???

Does Niki become SUE or does SUE become NIKI???

In the BLUE BEDROOM SCENE where NIKI begins yelling IT'S ME NIKI at DEVON/BILLY who still thinks he's BILLY and she's SUE ...

it DEFINITELY appears the SUE character is the one MORPHS into being NIKI.

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[–] xxpo 9 years ago

The front yard by the Smithy´s house is obviously real, not a "green screen". If Dern hasn´t ventured off the map, off the script, there, then when do you think it does happen?

In the YOU TUBE CLIP topic is a link where they show LYNCH filming what looks like the OUTSIDE of SMITHY'S HOUSE, and apparently it's also located there in his own yard. So the location would also be a HIS HOUSE or his compound.

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[–] xxpo 9 years ago

http://www.movies.com/movie-news/david-lynch-guide-to-filmmaking/12874

Watch Lynch at work, and cross your fingers we'll get another movie before he retires from the big screen.

Still keeping fingers crossed we'll get another movie from him!!!

Hopefully he'll also make enough from doing S3 of TWIN PEAKS for SHO to be able to afford giving us another one???

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[–] xxpo 8 years ago

The front yard by the Smithy´s house is obviously real, not a "green screen". If Dern hasn´t ventured off the map, off the script, there, then when do you think it does happen?

The clip where we see LYNCH filming the outside of SMITHY's house in his own front yard let's us know that's where the scene was really filmed.

But THE REHEARSAL for SCENE 35 also let's us know that the WINDOW SCENE where she watches out the window is a part of the SCRIPT due to the way KINGSLEY also says:

WE'LL BLOCK IT OUT AS BEST AS POSSIBLE

which also means the MOVIE SCRIPT calls for DERN to enter the AXXON N DOOR in the BACK ALLEY of STAGE 4 ...

then see herself doing the REHEARSAL for SCENE 35 ...

before she RUNS INSIDE of SMITHY'S HOUSE ...

where she looks out the WINDOW and watches the scene MORPHING from the inside of STAGE 4 to THE FRONT YARD.

So MOVIE WISE, what she sees when she looks out the window is most likely a GREEN SCREEN, where she sees the other image of herself that was filmed on location.

Just like we also know parts of the scene on the WALK of FAME were REALLY filmed on the WALK of FAME in HOLLYWOOD ...

But MOVIE WISE we're suppose to have been INSIDE of STAGE 4 the entire time ...

which is what the END of DERN'S DEATH SCENE is telling us when the CAMERA PULLS back to reveal the scene was filmed on the FAKE TWIN COPY of the WALK of FAME that's been created inside of STAGE 4.

In other words, no other movie messes with one's mind quite like this one does which, imo, is also what makes it a MASTER PIECE.

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[–] xxpo 8 years ago

THE REHEARSAL for SCENE 35 also let's us know that the WINDOW SCENE where she watches out the window is a part of the SCRIPT due to the way KINGSLEY also says:

WE'LL BLOCK IT OUT AS BEST AS POSSIBLE

which also means the MOVIE SCRIPT calls for DERN to enter the AXXON N DOOR in the BACK ALLEY of STAGE 4 ...

then see herself doing the REHEARSAL for SCENE 35 ...

before she RUNS INSIDE of SMITHY'S HOUSE ...

where she looks out the WINDOW and watches the scene MORPHING from the inside of STAGE 4 to THE FRONT YARD.

So MOVIE WISE, what she sees when she looks out the window is most likely a GREEN SCREEN, where she sees the other image of herself that was filmed on location.

Just like we also know parts of the scene on the WALK of FAME were REALLY filmed on the WALK of FAME in HOLLYWOOD ...

But MOVIE WISE we're suppose to have been INSIDE of STAGE 4 the entire time ...

which is what the END of DERN'S DEATH SCENE is telling us when the CAMERA PULLS back to reveal the scene was filmed on the FAKE TWIN COPY of the WALK of FAME that's been created inside of STAGE 4.

In other words, no other movie messes with one's mind quite like this one does which, imo, is also what makes it a MASTER PIECE

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BUT one should also NOT assume that this is a story that comes from ONE MIND, the way that a certain poster keeps insisting is the case,

because that also makes the AXXON N TALE nothing more than some kind of a GOOFY DALLAS DREAM..

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[–] xxpo 7 years ago

one should also NOT assume that this is a story that comes from ONE MIND, the way that a certain poster keeps insisting is the case,

because that also makes the AXXON N TALE nothing more than some kind of a GOOFY DALLAS DREAM.

ALSO NOTE the way DERN checks out the HALLWAY after she ENTERS SMITHY'S HOUSE and how much that HALLWAY also looks like the HALLWAY where she finds ROOM 47 (the RABBIT ROOM).

ALSO NOTE the way the HALLWAY also MORPHS and CHANGES AFTER MIDNIGHT into the one where the RABBIT ROOM is located.

So this is DEFINITELY ALSO not THE WOMB as certain CLUELESS POSTERS have suggested.

What we have is a LOCATION MORPHING and CHANGING AFTER MIDNIGHT the same way as we also see the 3 OLD RABBIT MEN MORPHING and CHANGING back into their RABBIT FORMS again AFTER MIDNIGHT.

Because this is also what happens AFTER MIDNIGHT in FOLK TALES and FAIRY TALES.

The MAGIC WEARS OFF and things MORPH back into being what they are again.

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[–] xxpo 7 years ago

we have is a LOCATION MORPHING and CHANGING AFTER MIDNIGHT the same way as we also see the 3 OLD RABBIT MEN MORPHING and CHANGING back into their RABBIT FORMS again AFTER MIDNIGHT.

Because this is also what happens AFTER MIDNIGHT in FOLK TALES and FAIRY TALES.

The MAGIC WEARS OFF and things MORPH back into being what they are again

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And DERN has gone back to being a RABBIT again once she's back inside of ROOM 47 or THE RABBIT ROOM.

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[–] xxpo 12 years ago

The 4 LEVELS to the AXXON N STORY and the FRONT WINDOW scene etc.

We seem to have 4 LEVELS to the AXXON N STORY:

3 LEVELS take place INSIDE of it ...

1 LEVEL takes PLACE OUTSIDE OF IT ...

or OUTSIDE of the MAGIC REALM that is created by the NEW NEIGHBOR ... the REALM that ends when DERN turns her head to look over at the other TWIN COPY of herself sitting on the couch across the room in the PALE BLUE 50 or 60's style dress.

LEVEL ONE:

Mr. and MRS. LUCAS (Lost Girl) ... is seduced by the BIG BAD WOLF character ...

(inside of the MODERN DAY HOTEL ROOM ... with the MODERN DAY MONITOR ... and the Modern day SATELLITE DISH that sits outside the window where she sits ...

which also means their story takes place OUTSIDE of the INSIDE STORY shown to us by the NEW NEIGHBOR).

LEVEL TWO:

MR. and MRS. PIOTREK (aka: NIKI) ... is seduced by her Co Star DEVON???

LEVEL THREE:

SUE BLUE (Dern as Mrs. Smithy) is seduced by BILLY ???

LEVEL FOUR:

LOST GIRL is seduced by MUSHTASH MAN or by the husband of the WOMAN in WHITE ???

So ...

if we assume the MRS. PIOTREK character or the NIKI/SUE character is also a DUAL character ROLE an actress plays in KINGSLEY'S BLUE VERSION of the STORY ...

which is also a story about an ACTRESS from the current TIME getting TRAPPED inside of SMITHY'S WORLD or inside of his 1960 TIME frame ...

because of a CURSE that is also a part of accepting and playing a DUAL ROLE in the MOVIE SCRIPT ...

then doesn't that also mean the WINDOW SCENE where NIKI stands inside of SMITHY'S LIVING ROOM ...

looking out the FRONT WINDOW ...

as she watches the inside of STAGE 4 disappear ...

and turn into a FRONT YARD ...

would also be a part of the MOVIE SCRIPT?

And doesn't that also mean the ACTRESS we see standing there is waiting for the FILM CREW to LOAD UP and PROJECT the FRONT YARD SCENE onto the BLUE or GREEN SCREEN before she OPENS up the LOCKED FRONT DOOR that is now UNLOCKED ...

so that she can go out into the Front yard and look around ...

pretending to be confused ...

because that's also what the MOVIE SCRIPT calls for her to do NEXT ...

in this part of the MOVIE SCRIPT that calls for her to get TRAPPED inside SMITHY'S HOUSE???

Because this MAGIC WINDOW scene also happens right after we see the 2ND REHEARSAL for SCENE 35 ...

where DERN ENCOUNTERS the TWIN COPY of herself that disappears from the REHEARSAL TABLE ...

after she enters the AXXON N DOOR in the BACK Alley.

And during the REHEARSAL for SCENE 35 we also hear KINGSLEY saying:

WE'LL BLOCK it out as BEST as POSSIBLE ...

Which is also a term for WALKING to the PARTS of the STAGE where one says one's lines ...

which also means DEVON WALKS to the BACK OF THE STAGE ...

because that's also where he needs to be to say his lines in the SCRIPT ...

which also means his STANDNG OUTSIDE of SMITHY'S HOUSE as DERN looks out at him through the FRONT WINDOW is also a part of the MOVIE SCRIPT????

Yes?

No?

Maybe so???

The other thing to NOTE is the WAY FREDDY keeps ASKING people for RENT MONEY:

He asks NIKI and DEVON for RENT MONEY ...

Later we see him asking other CREW MEMBERS for RENT MONEY ...

This also indicates FREDDY is merely a BIT PART ACTOR in the film and NOT the ASSISTANT to the DIRECTOR ...

because a DA would also make enough not to need to BEG for RENT MONEY.

And that also means BOTH KINGSLEY and FREDDY may simply be ACTORS who play the part of a DIRECTOR and his ASSSITANT ...

thus also giving us still another LEVEL to IE that many don't tend to see ...

Which also reminds one of what the MAGIC MAN at the CLUB of SILENCE said on stage in MD:

IT'S ALL TAPE ...

ILLUSION

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[–] xxpo 11 years ago

After watching the Lost Girl REUNION Scene with LUCAS again yesterday ...

NOTICED how that REUINON scene takes place WITHIN THE MOVIE MAGIC of the NEW NEIGHBOR ...

and NOT OUTSIDE of it.

So that also seems to BLOW the THEORY that LOST GIRL and LUCAS would be A STORY taking place OUTSIDE of the other LEVELS ...

BUT ...

we also SEE LOST GIRL BEFORE we see THE NEW NEIGHBOR ...

which also still KEEPS her OUTSIDE of the other INSIDE STORY that is told to us by THE NEW NEIGHBOR who uses her MAGIC as a way to tell it to us.

And the way in which the FACE of LOST GIRL MORPHS into our seeing the FACE of the NEW NEIGHBOR also seems to confirm that this NEW NEIGHBOR ...

who speaks with a POLISH ACCENT ...

MAY also be an OLDER VERSION of LOST GIRL ...

who's come to WARN her NOT to take the part in KINGLEY'S REMAKE VERSION of the film???

Whatever the case may be ...

that's also INTERESTING what LAURA PALMTREE says about DERN going to the THEATER to WATCH the DALLIES.

Since KINGSLEY is also saying BRAVO and telling DERN what an EXCELLENT PERFORMANCE she's given ...

maybe that's also what MOTIVATES her to GO see the DALLIES for herself and see if she's done a good job or not ...

or if KINGSLEY'S just filling her with FALSE FLATTERY AGAIN ...

LIKE he does in STAGE 32 ...

during the MEET and GREET scene???

And maybe that would also make MR. K the FILM EDITOR????

OR THE GUY who deals with the DALLIES that come in each day ???

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[–] el-9984 11 years ago

we also SEE LOST GIRL BEFORE we see THE NEW NEIGHBOR ...

which also still KEEPS her OUTSIDE of the other INSIDE STORY that is told to us by THE NEW NEIGHBOR who uses her MAGIC as a way to tell it to us.

Scenes from Visitor #1's approach to Nikki's front door and from inside the Rabbit Room appear on LG's monitor before we get to the full Rabbit Room scene and Grace Zabriski's visit. And later her monitor picks up the action from Poland too…so looks like LG can pretty much see what's going on everywhere.

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[–] xxpo 11 years ago

OK.

So ...

IF LG can SEE what's going on EVERYWHERE ...

the QUESTION is WHY???

What exactly ENABLES her to be able to do this?

THE MOVIE MONITOR that she's watching???

AND What PURPOSE does it serve for her to be able to do this?

And since LP also suggested DERN may be on her way to see the DALLIES ...

perhaps LG sits there WAITING for her CUE ...

for the SCENE in KINGSLEY'S FILM that she KNOWS is coming up ...

where DERN ENTERS ROOM 205 and DISAPPEARS ...

before she EXITS the ROOM, RUNS down the stairs, and takes the BACK WAY into SMITHY'S HOUSE???

As for the other SCENES that we see ON THE MONITOR ...

don't we STILL also SEE LG sitting there naked on the BED BEFORE we ever SEE that MONITOR ...

thus also still placing her OUTSIDE of the MAGIC the NEW NEIGHBOR uses to TELL US the TALE ...

or are you saying we SEE the NEW NEIGHBOR BEFORE we see THE NAKED LG?

And Even IF that were the case ...

THE MAGIC also doesn't begin until THE NEW NEIGHBOR SAYS:

AND then there's the MAGIC.

RIGHT???

And the reason why she's FORCED into USING IT is also because DERN'S just told her:

SHE THINKS SHE SHOULD GO NOW

because she didn't like the WORD FU*CK that she used when she said:

BRUTAL FU*CKING MURDER

It isn’t something you remember.

Forgetfulness it happens to us all.

Where was I?

Is there a murder in the film?

Brutal FU*CKing murder.

As for the MONITOR PICKING UP scenes from POLAND ...

it's also pretty clear that POLISH STREET SCENE ...

where we appear to into ENTER the RABBIT ROOM of the 3 RABBIT MEN ...

is also a PAINTING and is NOT the REAL STREET.

Not only because we see the PROP (PROP NUMBER 10) which takes up the ENTIRE LENGTH or WIDTH of STAGE 4 ...

(we see it sitting there as DERN turns around in her CHAIR to look at the back of the STAGE when DEVON mentions SMITHY'S HOUSE)...

but also because when one compares the SCENE where we appear to ENTER into that ARCH AREA ...

with the OTHER REAL ARCH AREA ...

one can also see how the PAINTING ENDS on the RIGHT HAND SIDE ...

whereas the photo of the REAL LOCATION in POLAND also has a BALCONY sitting there beside that 2ND story WINDOW AREA on the right hand side ...

and it also has a STREET LIGHT that REFLECTS off of that 2ND STORY WINDOW that has the BALCONY area that PROP 10 or the PAINTING does NOT HAVE.

To see what I mean:

Go here and SCROLL DOWN (more than PAST HALF WAY DOWN) to see the PAINTING or PROP NUMBER 10 which sits on TOP of the REAL PICTURE of the REAL POLISH STREET:

http://italkyoubored.wordpress.com/tag/laura-dern/

So ...

even when you THINK you're IN POLAND ...

SOMETIMES what you ACTUALLY see is the FAKE TWIN COPY of the STREET IN POLAND ...

or PROP 10 ...

which is also like that other FAKE TWIN COPY of the WALK of FAME.

AND ...

when LOST GIRL watches the ILLUSION on the MONITOR ...

that gives one the IMPRESSION we ENTER into that ARCH AREA ...

that takes us into the RABBIT ROOM in POLAND ...

what we actually SEE is PROP NUMBER 10 ...

THE FAKE TWIN COPY of that STREET in POLAND.

SEE what I mean???

THE INLAND EMPIRE AREA of STAGE 4 ...

that MIRRORS and REFLECTS the OTHER AREAS that are LOCATED in the OUTSIDE WORLD ...

is a VERY TRICKY kind of a place ...

and is also the kind of a place that REALLY LAYS a MAJOR MIND FU*CK on you ...

even if YOU'RE NOT LOCATED there and are only WATCHING what happens there on a DVD.

It isn’t something you remember. Forgetfulness. It happens to us all. And me? I’m the worst one. Oh! Where was I? Yes… is there a murder in your film?

NIKKI
No, it’s not part of the story.

NEW NEIGHBOR:
No? I think you’re wrong about that.

NIKKI
No.

NEW NEIGHBOR:
BRUTAL FU*CKing MURDER!

NIKKI
I don’t like this kind of talk. Things you’ve been saying. I think you should go now.

NEW NEIGHBOR:

Yeeees… me I can’t seem to remember if it’s today, two days from now, or yesterday. I suppose if it was _9:45_…I’d think it was after midnight. For instance, if today was tomorrow… you wouldn’t even remember that you owed on an unpaid bill. Actions do have consequences.

And yet … there is …the magic!

{Of using FAKE TWIN COPIES like PROP 10}

If it was tomorrow, you would be sitting over there.

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YOUR CONFUSED:

THERE'S the MAGIC of the FOLK TALE itself ...

where the 3 HUMANS MORPH into being RABBITS ...

but there's also the OTHER kind of MAGIC that the NEW NEIGHBOR USES to TELL DERN the STORY ...

because DERN also TELLS the NEW NEIGHBOR TO LEAVE ...

thus also giving the NEW NEIGHBOR ...

who is trying to HELP DERN ...

no other CHOICE ...

but to SPEED UP the PROCESS ...

of SHOWING HER WHAT WILL HAPPEN if she takes the PART in the FILM.

THE NEW NEIGHBOR basically has the SAME ROLE as MARLEY does in THE CHRISTMAS CAROL.

Marley comes to WARN SCROOGE NOT to take the PATHWAY into the FUTURE TIME that will KILL TINY TIM.

SAME SITUATION HERE.

THE NEW NEIGHBOR USES the SAME KIND OF MAGIC as MARLEY does to SHOW DERN what TOMORROW will LOOK LIKE ...

if she REFUSES to LISTEN to the WARNING that she's being GIVEN by the NEW NEIGHBOR.

REMEMBER the REHEARSAL for SCENE 35?

HOW DERN tells KINGSLEY NO ONE TOLD HER ANYTHING ???

HOW does one explain this ...

when DERN'S ALSO BEEN TOLD BY THE NEW NEIGHBOR that SHE'S NOT ONLY ALREADY GOTTEN THE PART ...

but also ABOUT THE BRUTAL FU*CKING MURDER that takes place in the STORY???

DID DERN LIE to KINGSLEY when she says NO ONE TOLD HER ANYTHING???

OR is this THE DERN of the FUTURE TIME that is being SHOWN to this OTHER DERN of the PRESENT TIME???

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[–] xxpo 11 years ago

IF YOUR NOT CONFUSED ...

then ANSWER THE QUESTION YOU'VE IGNORED:

REMEMBER the REHEARSAL for SCENE 35?

HOW DERN tells KINGSLEY NO ONE TOLD HER ANYTHING ???

HOW does one explain this ...

when DERN'S ALSO BEEN TOLD BY THE NEW NEIGHBOR that SHE'S NOT ONLY ALREADY GOTTEN THE PART ...

but also ABOUT THE BRUTAL FU*CKING MURDER that takes place in the STORY???

DID DERN LIE to KINGSLEY when she says NO ONE TOLD HER ANYTHING???

OR is this THE DERN of the FUTURE TIME that is being SHOWN to this OTHER DERN of the PRESENT TIME???

THERE'S OBVIOUSLY MORE than just ONE KIND of MAGIC being used in IE ...

just like we have MORE than one kind of MAGIC in TP ...

the MAGIC RING ...

the MAGIC WAY BOB GETS INSIDE of other characters etc.

In IE There's THE MAGIC that the NEW NEIGHBOR USES to tell the STORY ...

there's the MAGIC THE PHANTOM USES to HYNOTIZE OTHERS ...

THE MAGIC WATCH that RUNS BACKWARDS in TIME ...

THE AXXON N DOOR that CREATES EVIL TWIN COPIES ... etc.

IN MD we also have DIFFERENT kinds of MAGIC ...

the MAGIC that we see ON STAGE ...

ALL ILLUSION ...

TAPE ...

and the OTHER ILLUSION that TAKES PLACE INSIDE of the MIND of the character when she IMAGINES she sees the other girl standing in her KITCHEN and sees her ON THE COUCH when she's NOT REALLY THERE.

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OK.

So ...

IF LG can SEE what's going on EVERYWHERE ...

the QUESTION is WHY???

What exactly ENABLES her to be able to do this?

THE MOVIE MONITOR that she's watching???

AND What PURPOSE does it serve for her to be able to do this?

And since LP also suggested DERN may be on her way to see the DALLIES ...

perhaps LG sits there WAITING for her CUE ...

for the SCENE in KINGSLEY'S FILM that she KNOWS is coming up ...

where DERN ENTERS ROOM 205 and DISAPPEARS ...

before she EXITS the ROOM, RUNS down the stairs, and takes the BACK WAY into SMITHY'S HOUSE???

As for the other SCENES that we see ON THE MONITOR ...

don't we STILL also SEE LG sitting there naked on the BED BEFORE we ever SEE that MONITOR ...

thus also still placing her OUTSIDE of the MAGIC the NEW NEIGHBOR uses to TELL US the TALE ...

or are you saying we SEE the NEW NEIGHBOR BEFORE we see THE NAKED LG?

And Even IF that were the case ...

THE MAGIC also doesn't begin until THE NEW NEIGHBOR SAYS:

AND then there's the MAGIC.

RIGHT???

And the reason why she's FORCED into USING IT is also because DERN'S just told her:

SHE THINKS SHE SHOULD GO NOW

because she didn't like the WORD FU*CK that she used when she said:

BRUTAL FU*CKING MURDER

It isn’t something you remember.

Forgetfulness it happens to us all.

Where was I?

Is there a murder in the film?

Brutal FU*CKing murder.

As for the MONITOR PICKING UP scenes from POLAND ...

it's also pretty clear that POLISH STREET SCENE ...

where we appear to into ENTER the RABBIT ROOM of the 3 RABBIT MEN ...

is also a PAINTING and is NOT the REAL STREET.

Not only because we see the PROP (PROP NUMBER 10) which takes up the ENTIRE LENGTH or WIDTH of STAGE 4 ...

(we see it sitting there as DERN turns around in her CHAIR to look at the back of the STAGE when DEVON mentions SMITHY'S HOUSE)...

but also because when one compares the SCENE where we appear to ENTER into that ARCH AREA ...

with the OTHER REAL ARCH AREA ...

one can also see how the PAINTING ENDS on the RIGHT HAND SIDE ...

whereas the photo of the REAL LOCATION in POLAND also has a BALCONY sitting there beside that 2ND story WINDOW AREA on the right hand side ...

and it also has a STREET LIGHT that REFLECTS off of that 2ND STORY WINDOW that has the BALCONY area that PROP 10 or the PAINTING does NOT HAVE.

To see what I mean:

Go here and SCROLL DOWN (more than PAST HALF WAY DOWN) to see the PAINTING or PROP NUMBER 10 which sits on TOP of the REAL PICTURE of the REAL POLISH STREET:

http://italkyoubored.wordpress.com/tag/laura-dern/

So ...

even when you THINK you're IN POLAND ...

SOMETIMES what you ACTUALLY see is the FAKE TWIN COPY of the STREET IN POLAND ...

or PROP 10 ...

which is also like that other FAKE TWIN COPY of the WALK of FAME.

AND ...

when LOST GIRL watches the ILLUSION on the MONITOR ...

that gives one the IMPRESSION we ENTER into that ARCH AREA ...

that takes us into the RABBIT ROOM in POLAND ...

what we actually SEE is PROP NUMBER 10 ...

THE FAKE TWIN COPY of that STREET in POLAND.

SEE what I mean???

THE INLAND EMPIRE AREA of STAGE 4 ...

that MIRRORS and REFLECTS the OTHER AREAS that are LOCATED in the OUTSIDE WORLD ...

is a VERY TRICKY kind of a place ...

and is also the kind of a place that REALLY LAYS a MAJOR MIND FU*CK on you ...

even if YOU'RE NOT LOCATED there and are only WATCHING what happens there on a DVD.

It isn’t something you remember. Forgetfulness. It happens to us all. And me? I’m the worst one. Oh! Where was I? Yes… is there a murder in your film?

NIKKI
No, it’s not part of the story.

NEW NEIGHBOR:
No? I think you’re wrong about that.

NIKKI
No.

NEW NEIGHBOR:
BRUTAL FU*CKing MURDER!

NIKKI
I don’t like this kind of talk. Things you’ve been saying. I think you should go now.

NEW NEIGHBOR:

Yeeees… me I can’t seem to remember if it’s today, two days from now, or yesterday. I suppose if it was _9:45_…I’d think it was after midnight. For instance, if today was tomorrow… you wouldn’t even remember that you owed on an unpaid bill. Actions do have consequences.

And yet … there is …the magic!

{Of using FAKE TWIN COPIES like PROP 10}

If it was tomorrow, you would be sitting over there.

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[–] xxpo 11 years ago

The reason why DERN doesn't REMEMBER what the NEW NEIGHBOR SAID is because the DERN from THE FUTURE TIME frame ...

the one who TAKES the ROLE in the FILM ...

has NEVER MET THE NEW NEIGHBOR.

ONE can't REMEMBER someone that they've NEVER MET. .

On the other hand, this other DERN from the PRESENT TIME HAS MET THE NEW NEIGHBOR ...

which is also why she DECLINES to TAKE the PART in KINGSLEY'S FILM ...

which is probably also the reason why we see DERN WALKING BACKWARDS into the RABBIT ROOM ...

at the END of IE ...

BACK into the place from which SHE ORIGINATES ...

prior to her MORPHING into her HUMAN FORM ...

when WE FIRST see her ...

as she PASSES by what looks like a SERIES of MIRRORS on the WALL ...

which are ACTUALLY a SET of WINDOWS ...

that look out into the BALLROOM ...

as she's coming from the BALLROOM in the PALACE ...

to see who is at the FRONT DOOR.

The MAGIC MAN in MD is very much like the MAGIC GIANT MAN WHO SUDDENLY APPEARS (before he DISAPPEARS again) on stage during a musical performance to say:

IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN

when LELAND PALMER ATTACKS and MURDERS LAURA'S TWIN COUSIN MADDY ...

the other girl who looks just like LAURA ...

only she isn't a BLOND ...

and she has A DARKER HAIR COLOR ...

(very much like the case is with PARTRICA in LOST HIGHWAY).

You don't get to call me a narcissist

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I'm

not confused.

I'm
convinced the magic is happening before the new neighbor arrives.

If I was confused

I would say

I'm not sure if the magic is happening before the new neighbor arrives.

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Actually You call yourself one when you also keep fitting into this profile where they've described what being one involves:

Their speech is impregnated and dense with first person pronouns

("I", "me", "my", "mine").

Narcissists, therefore, never talk to others - rather, they talk at others, or lecture them.

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The reason why DERN doesn't REMEMBER what the NEW NEIGHBOR SAID is because the DERN from THE FUTURE TIME frame ...

the one who TAKES the ROLE in the FILM ...

has NEVER MET THE NEW NEIGHBOR.

ONE can't REMEMBER someone that they've NEVER MET. .

On the other hand, this other DERN from the PRESENT TIME HAS MET THE NEW NEIGHBOR ...

which is also why she DECLINES to TAKE the PART in KINGSLEY'S FILM ...

which is probably also the reason why we see DERN WALKING BACKWARDS into the RABBIT ROOM ...

at the END of IE ...

BACK into the place from which SHE ORIGINATES ...

prior to her MORPHING into her HUMAN FORM ...

when WE FIRST see her ...

as she PASSES by what looks like a SERIES of MIRRORS on the WALL ...

which are ACTUALLY a SET of WINDOWS ...

that look out into the BALLROOM ...

as she's coming from the BALLROOM in the PALACE ...

to see who is at the FRONT DOOR.

The MAGIC MAN in MD is very much like the MAGIC GIANT MAN WHO SUDDENLY APPEARS (before he DISAPPEARS again) on stage during a musical performance to say:

IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN

when LELAND PALMER ATTACKS and MURDERS LAURA'S TWIN COUSIN MADDY ...

the other girl who looks just like LAURA ...

only she isn't a BLOND ...

and she has A DARKER HAIR COLOR ...

(very much like the case is with PARTRICA in LOST HIGHWAY).

MILLER SAYS:

You don't get to call me a narcissist

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I'm

not confused.

I'm
convinced the magic is happening before the new neighbor arrives.

If I was confused

I would say

I'm not sure if the magic is happening before the new neighbor arrives.

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CORRECTION:

Actually You call yourself one when you also keep fitting into this profile where they've described what being one involves:

Their speech is impregnated and dense with first person pronouns

("I", "me", "my", "mine").

Narcissists, therefore, never talk to others - rather, they talk at others, or lecture them.

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[–] xxpo 10 years ago

Anyone have any comments they'd care to share regarding what's been said on this topic???

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[–] xxpo 10 years ago

Still no comments???

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[–] xxpo 11 years ago

http://www.beyondhollywood.com/inland-empire-2006-movie-review/

With Lynch there are often several plots competing for interest, all of which are interesting and none of which will ever be resolved through conventional narrative.

So just like we have SEVERAL different PLOTS in MD ...

(ADAM'S STORY/Joe killing ED and 2 other people along with the VACUUM CLEANER/BETTY/DIANE'S STORY, etc) ...

we also have SEVERAL DIFFERENT PLOTS in IE.

Like Henry Miller, who once imagined a “House of Fiction” with different but related stories in each room, Lynch wants us to fall into a series of narrative rabbit holes leading to labyrinths full of sinister secrets and malevolent minotaurs.

This also seems to CONFIRM what LYNCH is doing with the way we have SEVERAL DIFFERENT PLOTS that also seem like we fall into different NARRATIVES ...

such as LOST GIRL'S STORY/DERN'S STORY/the RABBITS story/ ...

and finally into one that includes the SINISTER ONE LEG GIRL and the other girl with the MONKEY on her back.

In standard storytelling, narrative is the vehicle for themes to play out on a subtextual level.

This is how audiences have been conditioned to understand motion pictures. But in Lynch’s work, he strips away the pretense of narrative to allow audiences a more direct experience with the themes and subconscious truths within.

He makes the subtext into text, and for Lynch, the thematic text is always the same:

that of the innocent disillusioned and in danger of being corrupted.

But when was the SINISTER ONE LEG GIRL ...

who kills 3 kids when she's in the FIRST GRADE ...

and then kills her caretaker when she's age 8 ...

in the process where she escapes from the place where she's being held in detention and hops into the TRUCK with the TRUCK DRIVER ...

ever INNOCENT or IN DANGER???

Doesn't the ONE LEG GIRL also appear to be more of a NATURAL BORN KILLER than an INNOCENT being or someone who gets CORRUPTED???

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