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The one problem I have with this movie


Let me preface this by saying that I absolutely loved this movie. So beautiful and so touching.

The ONE thing that bothered me was the fact that Griffin wanted to get involved with Phoenix without telling her that he was dying. How could he start the relationship, have them possibly fall in love and then die?! Why would he do that to someone? Yes, I know that he shouldn't just "curl up" until he would die, but I don't know...

Anyone else think about this?

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Hey, A-mommy!

A wonderful movie and one of my all-time favorites. Maybe I am prejudiced, but I have NEVER observed chemistry between any two actors as that between these two. Sometimes it seems as though I am seeing a documentary (I watch this film at least once a week).

In all fairness and, after all it is only a movie, Griffin did feel something when he and Phoenix met. He asked her to dinner, Phoenix willingly went to have dinner with him a second time. SHE left a note at his apartment when he was out; when he called her SHE went back to his apartment for hmmm... "let's get on with it."

One of my favorite lines is: "Why were you being so nice to me, Griffin?" to which he replies: "I wasn't being nice to you, I was being in love with you." Isn't her question almost a "confession" - admitting that she feels she does not deserve his affection because of the subconscious denial of her truth?

I am not being critical of you or your perception - we are all equally responsible in any relationship or affair. Of course, our capacity for unselfish love can be brought out only by another. Neither Griffin nor Phoenix anticipated a long-term connection, sometimes eternal love just happens...

I don't know - but that's how I look at it.







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He wasn't looking for a relationship, he was hoping for one last fling.

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but he ended up finding love instead, so the fling thing doesnt matter.

i also thought it was interesting that he wanted a partner when he found out he would die. then again you cant blame him. no one would want to be alone and without love if they only had 2 years TOPS to live, would they now?

~ Dean Winchester: I hope your apple pie is freakin' worth it!

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look at it this way.. he didnt know she was dying as well.. if you were completely healthy and someone you might see yourself having a future with but it was too early in the relationship to know told you that they were dying.. would you stick around or haul ass the other direction... most people dont hang around after they find out a potential mate has a terminal illness.. he didnt have any way of knowing that she too was dying... had he told her she would have stayed but he didnt know.

its just human nature to be scared of falling in love with someone only to have them die on you a few months down the road. i know if it were me and i probably would have bailed too.. theres heartache and theres heartache... thats a form of heartache i would not be able to handle. so leave before you get too attached, be upset when you read about it in the paper but it wouldnt be anywhere near as bad as it would have been had you stuck around for the whole ride, fallen in love then had to watch the person you love die.

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