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Love the program but just found out it was ripped off from the Brits


For years I watched the show and loved it.. Thanks to netflix I found the original.. ( Ultimate Force) a 2002 UK show about the SAS..

Now when you watch it you can see there is no budget but if you look at the characters you will see a uncanny mirror image of the personalities in the two shows.

I love the unit but after watching the UK version I prefer the UK version as it doesn't ponce around with the families...its about the boys and the works they have to do.

again the UK one had no budget so don't expect the UNIT filming quality or props

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- Wrong .

It's based on a Israeli TV-show ,

if i remember right .

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Which one? and what year did it come out..

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I found that only the first season of Ultimate Force was any good - after that, it just went too over the top and ridiculous for my liking....

I felt that The Unit kept a bit more of an even keel throughout...

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The Unit was based on Eric Haney's Book, [u] Inside Delta Force [/u]

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That's very true, but if you do watch Ultimate Force some of the initial episodes, the setup and characters are remarkably similar. I don't see it as a rip off at all because the two shows are quite different (and only the first session of UF is any good) and overall the unit is by far better.. The resemblance is still uncanny...

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Oh yeah, I don't dispute what you are saying in the slightest (I haven't read the book so can't comment on that specifically) all I am saying is that there is an uncanny similarity to how many of the characters are introduced and portrayed (especially the n00b character of Bob Brown)...

I'm not saying if this resemblance is bad or good, I'm just saying that the resemblance is uncanny :)

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[quote][...] there is an uncanny similarity to how many of the characters are introduced and portrayed (especially the n00b character of Bob Brown)...[/url]

Except it isn't uncanny at all! :)

What I mean is, most of those similarities are simply part of writing-for-television 101. The "newbie character", for example, is the default subtype of what's called the "audience stand-in character" (or something like that) in this sort of situation: Apparently, the average viewer likes to be able to identify with one of the principal characters if the setting is otherwise more or less unfamiliar, which is accomplished by having someone newly join that unfamiliar setting from a more familiar one.

Plus, it creates a very convenient avenue for supplying needed expository information: Simply have one of the old hands explain it to the new guy on-screen.

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I agree - it is a typical story technique.

That being said, there are many ways to do it and the two (UF and The Unit) do it remarkably similarly... And as I said previously, I'm not criticising it, just recognising it...

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Oh I thought this was going to turn into an SAS vs Delta pissing match....Im American and I believe SAS is pound for pound the best Special Ops unit on the planet....Delta is probably right next to them but I did mention SAS first as they have a longer history. Reading Eric Haney's book as well as Colonel Charlie Beckwiths was enlightening....I not only see the traditional roles of Army SF ODA Sergeants in each of the characters but also personalities of some of the founding members Beckwith mentioned. Very Interesting stuff.

Anyways I often fast forward through the family stuff when casually watching or just sitting back looking to watch the team go about their bad assery...BUT they do add a vital balance to the shows violence and what not. All combat wouldn't cater to some (It would for me! XD) so thats one reason...But the issues of Soldiers coming home to family after deployments is a HUGE thing and honestly it can't just be avoided for the sake of making something more bad ass...I did find it annoying when the families started getting intertwined in some of these covert missions towards the later seasons...like the whole Sam and Jonas's wife thing was outrageous.

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You thought it was going to turn into a pissing match so you decided....to go for it? What a hypocrite. What do you actually know about SAS or Delta to even make a comparison? If you knew even one iota you wouldn't be comparing them. If you had an idea about Delta and you had read Haney's book you wouldn't be mentioning traditional roles of Army SF ODA Sergeants. So either you didn't read the book or you read the book and didn't have a clue as to what you were reading which is it?

I am a US Army Officer and far from a SF fanboy. In my eyes what makes a unit the best is experience. US Army SF simply can't all be lumped together as one in the same. Some SF have deployed more than others, some have seen far more combat than others, some haven't seen combat at all. Same goes for the 22 SAS. You can't lump all SAS together. 21 and 23 SAS have very little experience at all and about zero combat outside of Northern Ireland. 22 SAS same can be said as that of US Army SF. Would I say Army SF or 22 SAS is better than the other? Nope. I do have a preference of whom I would rather employ as a Senior Officer and that would be US Army SF. Organizationally they are better equipped, funded and supplied. There are several options present with US Army SF that simply aren't with 22 SAS.

There is almost no correlation between Delta, Haney's Book, The Unit and seeing traditional roles of Army SF ODA Sergeants. Delta does not contain anything even recognizable to a ODA. Different mission, different organization, just plain totally different. Comparing Delta to SAS is as bad as comparing Delta to Army SF.

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I've been told more than once that SAS/SBS often work as "subcontactors" for US SF in some situations. It provides absolute deniability to the US government, and there are a lot of places in the world UK citizens can enter and move about pretty easily thanks to once having the empire the sun never set on.

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how was it ripped off?? its based upon the book by eric haney "inside delta force". so basically because they are special forces you think its the same show? moron

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I've read Haney's book and the show has absolutely nothing to do with it. The book is about Haney's time in Delta, the show is fictional.

The Unit copies a story element from Ultimate Force, the wife and superior officer affair, only Ultimate Force handles it much better. Aside from that, the shows cannot be compared, though I think The Unit went way over the top with the hole conspiracy theory, wifes as undercover spies and especially the mystical bullcrap like The Spear of Destiny.

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Umm, the show had a tag line that read "based on Inside Delta Force" by Eric Haney.

It WAS based on the book. In fact, if you pay attention, many of the episodes are taken from stories right out of the book. Eric Haney was the Technical Advisor for the show.

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I am a Brit but Ultimate Force was BOLLOCKS, couldn't stand it. The Unit was far superior in every way

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I thought the Unit was a more balanced show than U.F.(which was very good in parts )The problem comes from the fact that Military service be it `green` or `black` is real life and as such deals with the effects simply participating has on real people.The reality is that for most it is something you are very lucky to survive without some degree of loss and often very unentertaining anecdotes to go with the few whiz bang war stories.Perhaps it's best to simply let the T.V. shows stick to the thrills and the Documentaries tell the truth to those who want to hear it warts and all..

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Not surprising since the concept of Delta Force itself was ripped off from the Brits. Charlie Beckwith wrote about using SAS documents and changing the language to be less British ("lorry" changed to "truck" etc.).

I don't have an opinion. The word "opinion" implies the possibility I'm wrong.

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The Unit was developed with a female audience in mind, so it has much more family drama.

As such I find it very hard to watch and I've no idea why the show is rated so highly.

Not that UF is much better, it had its drama too, but it was more grounded in reality than the soap opera of The Unit.

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The similarities end with the show being about special forces.

Ultimate Force was unwatchable half of the time, and the way they killed off all of the main characters in the first episode of season two was absurd. The acting sucked and the stories were bad.

The Unit is not perfect by any means, but it is much, much better than UF.

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