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Comic Con 2017 - Spoiler Thread (season 13)


Entertainment Weekly
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Supernatural cast talks season 13: Castiel is 'more dead than usual'

J2: Sam and Dean will find themselves butting heads when it comes to how to handle Lucifer’s baby. (Not surprisingly, Sam takes the slightly more compassionate approach to dealing with things.)

Misha: Castiel “comes back slowly”. “He’s very dead … more dead than usual.” But fear not, he will be back. At least, “the most important parts” of him will be.

Src: http://ew.com/tv/2017/07/22/supernatural-season-13-jensen-ackles-misha-collins-jared-padalecki/

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TV Insider
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Comic-Con 2017: Your 'Supernatural' Burning Questions Answered

Dabb:
- The Lucifer story became a setup for what we want to explore in Season 13. We’ve delved into alternate realities before, but we’re taking it to an extreme.

- Some of the explorations: What does it mean that Jack (Alexander Calvert) is Lucifer’s kid and Mary and Lucifer are together in the alt Apocalypse World? Plus Castiel, [former Hell king] Crowley (Mark A. Sheppard) and [his mom] Rowena (Ruth Connell) all appear to be dead. That’s fertile ground for next season.

- No one’s ever really dead on Supernatural, but I’m not saying that any of them will necessarily be back—at least for a while.

- Sam and Dean must care for the motherless Jack. Are they intent on siphoning his angel grace to make the incredibly powerful Nephilim more human? That’s the question, because if they [do], he’ll lose his power and be unable to open the door to get Mary back. The guys may have some conflict over that.

- Jack had an evil source, but he’s a blank slate. It’s a nature-nurture thing. If Season 12 was about children coming to terms with their moms as adults, then Season 13 is very much about Sam and Dean as parents.

- The Apocalypse World that Lucifer and Mary are trapped in is anything but paradise. On the other hand, long-dead family friend Bobby Singer (Jim Beaver) is there as a hunter! The fun thing about the alternative Earth is that it allows us to bring back a lot of characters in ways that are not pure. Every other Supernatural character could theoretically have an entirely new life there. We’re going to have a war zone unlike anything we’ve seen.

https://www.tvinsider.com/295838/comic-con-supernatural-burning-questions/

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So Jim Michaels tweeted this...

https://twitter.com/TheJimMichaels/status/889140157844037636

Open mind open mind open mind open mind....

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Ok the "surprise" was cool. But no big announcement, no teasers and no gag reel. Huh!

And according to Dabb unlike the beginning of S12 S13 doesn't start out happy......does Dabb even watch this show? Wasn't Sam being tortured and Mary was all mopey and Dean wasn't all that concerned and....didn't look all that happy to me.

Just like I thought Riftworld is going to spit out past characters that will of course be "wrong". Which is code for bringing back iconic characters so they can rewrite and rehash and then destroy them..... and Missouri Mosely will have a daughter that will join Wayward Daughters...apparently along with Claire and Alex. Fortunately not a show for me so they can populate it with as many angsty teens as they want.

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And apparently Dean thinks Mary is dead and wants to leave it, while Sam has to convince him that she might not be dead and that they should try to save her? That is like total destruction of the cornerstone of Dean's character. I mean after the decline of his being able to show off his badass skills last season and this, all they're leaving him with is his sex drive and eating habits to be played for a joke. On top of arguing over saving Mary being this season's brotherly angst, they have Sam pontificating that Dean should give the nephilim a chance instead of just going for the kill first ask questions later option. Why does that have to be a thing at all? If a monster hasn't killed, then Dean doesn't kill the monster . . . And it seems clear to me that while Jack isn't born evil, he will eventually have to become evil or fade into the ether like Amara did. They can't have someone as powerful as Jack on their side throughout the duration of the show, or there would be no show unless it's all about teaching Jack right from wrong, because Jack will just kill whatever they hunt for them.

The hate for this season is so high for me right now, and it hasn't even started yet.

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Ugh! This is the crew that will take us out of the series. Just Ugh!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx84kYHhXX4

This was cool though. I guess the J's were in the back singing along.

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The only good thing to come out of this CC was boys being pretty and the opening number on Sunday with Kansas. I admit that was very cool - too bad it finally happened when the show is at its absolute worst.

As for the S13 direction, I still can't believe these people receive a paycheck for ideas this bad. And it looks like Dabb's very low opinion of Dean and desire to do what he can to "ruin" Dean continues unabated.

At this point I truly believe Jensen knows Dabb doesn't like him, but at this late stage can't muster the energy to go to Peter Roth as he did in S6 and S9 to fight for Dean anymore, which is the saddest thing for Dean fans because Jensen himself was our last best hope. Oh, I'm sure he will continue to try to act against the shitty scripts, as he has always done - that's when he's even given any lines to say, which if S12 is any indication will be few and far between.

But, seriously, Dabb wants Dean to look bad for thinking Mary is dead - in a clear attempt to pervert and rewrite Sam's own behavior in S8 - and for wanting to kill Jack. And to Herr Idiot I say I'M WITH DEAN! Mary was a cold-hearted skank of a bitch who never showed Dean one ounce of love or concern, so why should he ever care about her again? She spent S12 having no use for him, so he should have no use for her.

And as for Satan's spawn, kill the little bastard! The story is hella stupid and horrible and it should be killed dead dead dead.

Dabb and Singer are the biggest morons in the business!

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I agree with all you say, I have watched most of the stuff coming out of comic con and I am truly depressed - after such a bad season as 12 to still have Dabb and no SL for Dean is rubbish. I find it almost impossible to believe that Jensen doesn't care that Sam is now getting his SL and is now the "big leader" surely he must care a bit. In his individual interview he really did not have ANYTHING to say and looked like he was relieved to be able to leave.

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Trailer/Sizzle reel....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL8KaB1SXcA

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Supernatural Hall H panel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K9dHXJyLog

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OMG did Dabb really say Hell's My Two Dads? I can't...

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How can TPTB be this out of touch? There've always been some problems, but this is almost twilight zone levels of wrong. I don't even know what to think anymore.

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Is a sizzle reel a recap?

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It is usually a teaser for next season. We didn't get that this year.

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Jensen's interview. You can click onto the others from this video....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFcWJuK3Cug

Ok I'm calling it. Based on what Misha said in his interview I think Cas ends up in the Empty with Death.

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At the end of the sizzle reel we saw this....

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0f66214e0e040cbc5642882cf658476e35dfeac671616cde3dee3a60fd7383d6.png

I'd say Death is good guess

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Or Cas becomes Death or a reaper?

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Interesting. But would that mean Cas won't be as much an ally for the Winchesters? I mean they have Super Jack now, he can do anything they need done. No real need for two super beings that can get them out of jail free.

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When the President of the United States enters the room...

https://twitter.com/badtvit/status/889222143879266304

or Jensen Ackles.

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So freaking cute...Jensen, Misha and Jared talking about Kansas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c1HZp9xjS0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5D4tUY1gPg

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Very cute. Gotta admit the whole Kansas thing was epic. Too bad Kripke couldn't make it. I wonder if they clued him in that the band was coming on Sunday? You'd think if they did he'd have tried to be there.

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This is pretty cool. The most tweeted celebs at SDCC

https://twitter.com/THETonyMorrison/status/889562968916209665

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