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Next time watch it LEGALLY


... so it won't be cancelled.

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...um....watching it legally has nothing to do with the series being cancelled.....sorry...try again...

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I desagree ...

watching it legally has EVERYTHING to do with the audience of a serie / movie.

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Uhh, if you didn't get to see it (I don't know, maybe you were working when it was aired??) and don't have Tivo or DVR, what the hell difference would it make if you got it off a torrent site.
Sorry guys, watching it legally has NOTHING to do with why it got cancelled and everything to do with Nielsen ratings.

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And Neilsen ratings have everything to do with watching it legally.

Obviously the poster is saying to watch a show legally while it's on the air. Nothing can be done to "improve" ratings when something is cancelled :P

"It's so simple a six year old could figure it out."
"Quick! Someone get a six year old!"

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And Neilsen ratings have everything to do with watching it legally.
Yes but only a select few are Nielsen families, so unless a whole host of Nielsen families watched this show illegally, there would be no impact.

All insults will be interpreted as an admission that you cannot contribute to the discussion.

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The neilson ratings are only part of the equation - the other is the feedback the advertisers get.

If you like a show, email the advertisers and tell them so.

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If you're not a nielsen family it makes no difference

Movies are IQ tests; the IMDB boards are how people broadcast their score.

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Watching shows legally can contribute but it rarely does.

For one, your television has to have a device fitted in order for it to be transmitted and counted towards ratings. Does your TV have one of those? If not, you're practically not watching it, even when you are.

Second, I invite ten friends over to watch the show every week. That's ten people in my house that are watching it... but it only counts as one viewer. I could have a thousand people over... and I'd still just be one viewer. And that's considering my TV had the device I mentioned above.

Third, "Invasion" was cancelled because viewers dropped. Not because they chose to download every single episode illegally, but because some people just didn't like it. It took a while to build up {and this was the network's decision, not the creator's} and some lost interest. Not to mention the fact ABC messed with its schedule many times and the promo wasn't anything to shout home about.

So if anyone's to blame, it's ABC. So really, all I have to say to you is:

Next time get your facts RIGHT.

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In the end they shouldn't have had a cliffhanger.Like a movie end it.




















SAVE INVASION http://www.petitiononline.com/33030/petition.html

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Well, in the end... it had already been filmed before they knew it was going to end. Think about it:

The show was messed around because ABC didn't give a damn about it. It was too expensive for them. Why would they bother shelling out MORE money to film a completely new ending? [And ending that would have been so rushed that it wouldn't have even been satisfying].

There's nothing wrong with leaving things open-ended. It worked for "Firefly" and thank God, cos they got a movie out of it. Worked for "Jericho" too, who got a second season, EVEN AFTER it was cancelled (though, admittedly, it did get canned again... but still). Luckily those shows didn't wrap everything up or they woulda stumped themselves.

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Watching it legally indeed has nothing to do with shows being canceled. Don't forget that apart from The US audience, the rest of the world is a lot bigger place and not many countries can get this on cable when aired... or the channel airing it just won't let other countries have it, no matter if they pay well. It has happened so many times now. (and then channels complain of shows being too expensive or they get low ratings..)

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Very good points.

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It makes absolutely no difference unless you have a Nielsen box. Place 100% of the blame on the woefully outdated and completely ineffectual methodology the TV corporations utilize. They need to wake up and smell the 21st century, seriously... No one wants to pay their exorbitant prices to watch TV anymore, people want to watch on their schedule not some arbitrary time slots, and with two minutes of commercials every five minutes bullpucky. More and more tech-savvy people are turning to the internet for their TV and movie entertainment. It would behoove the entire industry as a whole to bow to the will of the consumer and take advantage of the growing technology... In other words, no.

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Show did not air in my country, show was not watch able or purchaseable on their website. At least not from my country.

If I could, I would pay some money for each episode or season online, or watch it on my tv if it aired here.

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"Next time watch it LEGALLY ... so it won't be cancelled." by Korialstrash

yeah I just watched this now, how does this affect it beeing canceled again ?

Many shows dont make it outside united states before getting canceled.. some won't even make it to the UK before first beeing canceled..

your post doesn't make any sense at all.

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When are the TV companies going to wake up and get on board with TV streaming/downloads. If they put them up with adverts in, I would download them. But I have a life and a demanding job and would never plan my activities around a TV schedule.

So I downloaded it. But by the time I was watching in the UK, the show was already in trouble in America and had lost over 7m viewers. With 2 hiatuses and a 3 week break in it's first season, these 7m just didn't follow it.

The only thing that will kill a TV show these days is if it's truly awful or if it's badly handled by the TV company.

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Completely false thinking

If its on tv, most people will watch a show they want to watch on the TV,

The people who download illegally are usually not from the USA, for instance a massive number of brits download US shows because it is shown a long time after it is shown in the USA.
I know a similar thing happens for hit UK shows such as top gear, and of course no brit would bother illegally downloading Top Gear.

Same thing happens for films.

The whole issue is that tv & movie companies just do not understand the digital revolution means we want it now, and do not want to wait 12 months until we can see what the guys across the pond see.

We need more partnerships between UK TV & US TV stations so that shows that are great are broadcast close to each other and the cost is spread.

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I download my favorite shows even though we have the channels on the TV. to skip commercials, they are completely out of hand. some channels are slowly getting better and showing less, but it seems only for a handful of shows and not their whole lineup.

Plot hole - Aspect of a film that is misunderstood or missed while using your smart phone.

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In your defense... television as a whole suffers from the internet...
Numbers are down on all shows, as a whole. But that wasn't Invasions downfall.

If anything, watching shows ilegally saved some shows... Im one of many ppl that stopped watching Lost in Season 1 when they went to repeats a 3rd of the way into the season. I gave up on it, for about 2 years, until i watched them online. Now i watch it every week on tv. The rest of my household enjoyed episodes 1-3 then quit on the show also, never to return... I suspect alot of households were like that. With only the loyalists returning.

However...It's completely and utterly rediculous to say ppl watching shows illegally is why Invasion died out.

There are many successful shows that get watched illegally... Lost, Fringe, True Blood, many many more... They are thriving, living long fruitful lives, being the most popular shows in the nation...

So according to your theory.. Why havent these other shows died out????
They havent died out because they are actually good, compared to Invasion, which started wayyy too slow out the gate, and lost viewership, before they could even start to get good.

Blame the show, not ilegal downloading...

Good writers and brilliant scripts beat ilegal downloading issues any day.

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I did. But living in the UK, I can't help save the TV series survive seeing as I'm not part of the intial audience.

Maybe if they counted the downloads, legal+illegal, they'd get a better idea of viewing figures. I dunno.... Waiting for TV in the UK sucks ass. Specially as the good stuff goes straight to SKY tv and Vigin tv etc......

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Consider this...
The point to, pretty much everything, is to make money. Thats capitalism, its the only system in the world anybody has cared to make work.
With that basis, we live in this world and enjoy being entertained by people. People who entertain have jobs entertaining because theyre good at it. When people have jobs they usually get paid, some how that money THEY get paid has to be made... in the case of a television show it comes from commercials. When you dont WATCH a show with COMMERCIALS that show makes NOTHING. When guy says "watch it legally" maybe he dosnt only mean to watch it on TV, maybe he is saying for dumb fools to poney up the twenty bucks it takes to go to Walmart and BUY THE GODDAMN DVDS!
But dont bother, dont worry about supporting the people that make your life a little more enjoyable and bitch about having to watch reality TV all day and how its not worth the time to watch TV. With your *beep* attitudes the only thing youll be able to watch online is reruns of Magnum PI and countless hours of Survivor. Ratings, though a totall flawed system, are the only system. Maybe they dont give up the right numbers, maybe they do, but its a system theyve used for years. Maybe that sysem needs to be tossed, it dosnt make any difference. By downloading things and watching streemed video were telling producers, advertisers and anybody else who would stick their neck out to make decent TV that no matter what they do, were going to watch and they wont see a peny of profit.
So go ahead, I dont give a *beep* Ive baught enough DVDs to live off of for a while. When they get old maybe Ill start watching sports. But for those of you internet weasils, have fun watching Survivor for the next fifty years.
The same goes for music.



What the *beep*'s so wrong with supporting the things you enjoy anyways?

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I come from Denmark, Invasion's never been released on DVD here. Neither has most other shows worth watching. And even when they get released, it's with at least 2 year delay.

No, intelligent services is the way ahead. Think gaming platform Steam, just for movies and TV-Shows instead. Netflix is a step in the right direction.

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