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What this film DOESN'T tell us


An interesting sidebar to the life of Joseph Goebbels has to do with Edward Bernays, the so-called 'founder' of public relations (and nephew of Sigmund Freud), who died four years ago at the age of 103. He wrote the 'bible' on public relations, and it's still very relevant (and widely used) today.

Goebbels was an admirer of Bernays, and given the German's mastery of propaganda, it's not hard to see why. Bernays was a cynical master of public manipulation, or what is now called 'spin'. His PR campaign for the U.S. government and the United Fruit Company convinced the American public that the democratically elected government of Guatemala was controlled by communists, which was patently false. This paved the way for the CIA-backed overthrow of the Guatemalan government (1954). The same modus operandi was used 19 years later in Chile.

Goebbels believed that if you tell the same lie often enough, the public will start to believe it is true. It became a credo for him. Where did he learn this? From none other than Bernays, who spent a good part of his life telling lies and pretending they weren't. These methods are used everywhere in the world of PR (now often labelled by the softer term 'public affairs' because PR has, not surprisingly, a lot of negativity attached to it).

George Orwell was influenced by Goebbels (and by extension, Bernays) in writing his novel '1984'. The persistent theme in the novel is mind manipulation, which is the guiding principle behind PR-advertising strategies, whether we like it or not.

Goebbels was one of the architects of the Holocaust. When told that Goebbels admired him, Bernays, an Austrian-born Jew, was reportedly flattered. A real sweetheart.

Goebbels and Bernays are both dead, but their ideas are alive and doing very well. The evidence is all around us, if we open our minds to see it.

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Very well analyzed, welcome to 1984.
It's very sad but true, please pay your respect and visit:
http://www.reopen911.com/

And you will see that our media is no longer an instrument of democracy.

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think we started loosing the media back when 60 minutes cut off Jeffrey Wigand because they were worried theyd be sued by the tobacco folks.

Although I don't actually believe in the 9/11 conspiracy theory's. It gives Bush way too much credit.
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I just got hold of another DVD from Britain, called 9/11revisited.com.
I have not visited the site yet, but the DVD has some pretty compelling material.

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this is very interesting i want to study political science in college, and propoganda is HUGE and also being a national socialist this is very near and dear to my heart lol

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"being a national socialist this is very near and dear to my heart"

Are you serious? If so, you are risking wasting your life. The anti-semitic stereotypes taken seriously by Nazis are a joke. They are no more accurate, probably far less accurate, than the stereotype of Nazis as nothing but consciously evil sadists. It's amazing what damage can be done by people who don't actually bother to learn what their world is really like, but make assumptions about it based on the flimsiest of evidence -- and then are gripped with such awful certainty that they are willing to kill people! The fact is, what Jews have in common with other human beings far outweighs the differences. They are simply humans, as are we all. It must be the case that anti-semites are struggling with deep personal issues, such as finding a convenient target for their hatred, or projecting their own flaws onto others because they can't bear to see them in themselves (but they know they are around somewhere!). Greedy? Cunning? Manipulative? Deceptive? Base? Malicious? Read about the top Nazis and tell me they don't have these traits.

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Wow, I can't believe I'm responding to a three-year-old post. I've forgotten the titles of Bernays's books, but they would be easy to find (along with more info on the fascinating man himself) through Google or Yahoo. Your local library could also assist you. Bernays was a manipulator-par-excellence, and if I recall correctly, he wrote quite a few books.

I hope this helps.

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Thanks for the information. I knew we learned a lot from this guy Dr Goebbels. He was evil and he was brilliant! One guy we really love to HATE!

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WHAT this shadow of a documentary doesn't tell us is that before Goebbels joined the Nazi Party, which he thuhngt (rightfully) to be a socialist party, he was involved with one Marxist lined communist party but had a fight for power with one of its leaders. He admitted to being marxist and wanting to destroy capitalism and the bourgeouisie, even in his last days. He was opportunistic but he was really a socialist. You don't have to believe in me. Just read John Toland's biography of Hitler. A lot of nazis, like the brothers Strasse, were communist, even if they rejected Marx, but only because he was jewish.
Fascism and Natioanal-SOCIALISM are left wing ideologies.

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