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why blood in the end?


Why was the girl bleeding from between the legs when the boy shot an arrow with the bow without to hit her? Maybe her first period or symbolical for her defloration?

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you got'er buddy!
his ghost is apparently doing her, so you know he's dead when he dives in the ocean.

well, thats what i choose to believe anyway.

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the boy did not throw the arrow, its the same arrow the old man shot before he goes to the water. And the blood it because her defloration. Its like this... the old man, shot an arrow to the sky, then he like desapear his phisical body in to the water, then his "ghost" do it to her and the arrow comes back to finish the act. Thats the explaning of that part.

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This scene wasn't really subtle at all . . .

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I dont think so, the end is meaningless and useless. What ghost, this isnt a fantasy film. You are trying to complete directors half work!!

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First of all, you replied to my comment when I think you meant to reply to someone else.

Second, Kim Ki-duk's movies are heavily metaphorical. Most everything that happens on screen doesn't literally happen the way it's depicted - rather, it's more intended to happen symbolically.

Last, if you really had trouble figuring out the meaning of this, his least subtle movie, might I steer you towards something more mainstream? How about some Michael Bay?

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Yes, I shouldn't reply your comment, I wanted to write general opinion.

Heh he, I figured out what's happenning in the end scene, my point is there is nothing else related with this scene in the movie, this is like alternative ending directed with another person. The old man behaviors also don't fit this ending.

Actually, I read your first message as 'This scene was really subtle at all'..

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Your problem was that this was the only scene in the movie in which all the physical action gave way to metaphor? This isn't really a problem, as most of Kim Ki-duk's movies follow this path the closer they get to the climax. The problem with this scene in The Bow is just that it wasn't very good.

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why do you write the ending punch in your subject? And why didn't you wrote that it contained MAJOR SPOILERS?

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You replied to my post, but I don't think you intended to.

And "blood in the end" is so vague, how could it possibly be a spoiler? It sounds more like someone dying than what happened.

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The movie wasn't near as good as his other one: Summer, Spring...

I'm all for symbolism and such, but this movie tried too hard for my tastes. It's a personal thing. Kind of like modern art. Some people see genius. Some people see a bunch of bathroom stalls hanging on the wall. Literally.

I'm all for the mystical and the vague, but this one just lost me.

I understood the progression of the female character...to a point. I felt her empowerment in some scenes, but others just had me scratching my head. And the ending. OMG. Horrible. He marries her, jumps into the ocean, consumates the relationship after death. Wtf...?

I will admit though, there were some lovely scenes. The music was glorious, the lighting superb, the quiet moments were so tranquil that I found myself replaying it just for the serenity it brought into the room. I was absolutely hypnotized by her swinging back and forth across the water. Even the brief scene with the tying of ribbons around her wrist was a visual feast.

Still, it's not enough to make up for the weird moments. Not a film I'd recommend to friends and family. Which is a pity because there was real beauty there.

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The problem with this scene in The Bow is just that it wasn't very good.
I am inclined to agree that that scene was not all that good.

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i interpreted it that throughout the movie the old man and the visiting fishermen had been struggling to control her (and, ultimately, 'possess' her). the viewer spends most of the film wondering whether the old man or the young man will be the one who finally gains possession of her, yet in the end it is the arrow that symbolically deflowers her. the old man's final act is to set her free and she ends up being possessed not by the men but by an arrow.

i agree that it wasn't very good, i found the image of her air-humping to the sound of a violin rather amusing!

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the boy did not throw the arrow, its the same arrow the old man shot before he goes to the water. And the blood is because her deflowering. Its like this... the old man, shot an arrow to the sky, then he like disappears his physical body into the water, then his "ghost" do it to her and the arrow comes back to finish the act.
That's how it was.

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You need to see this movie more than once to fully understand the concept:

Remember when the girl pointed the old man with the arrow and then shooted to water? this was like a curse put on him, this was how he would end, then remember when the old man pointed her then shooted to sky? thats the same thing

The blood in the end was because he took her virginity the arrow is just a symbol that he was there

This movie was all like that, a movie where nobody talks is just metaphorical but a really good movie

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