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Far fetched + against the indian culture!


Being a Preity and Saif fan, I am extremely disappointed with this movie. Not that I had high expectations from it in the beginning (I basically went to see it only because it was filmed in my home town, Melbourne), but I had no idea that the story would be about a couple having a "live-in" relationship. This is considered as taboo in our culture. Our parents would kill us or disown us. Come on think about it all you Indians out there.. The whole concept has never been treaded by Bollywood - the heroine shown to hate marriage, prefers a live-together relationship and doesn't mind pre-marital sex! Furthermore, how was it possible for Ambar to be juggling studying medicine with a part-time radio jockey job plus dancing around pregnant?! You have to wonder after watching the movie, what on earth will Nick and Ambar's parents think about all of this if they return to India?!

Here are some comments by viewers who have recently watched the movie -

cybernoon.com:

..some viewers found it difficult to digest the concept of live-in relationship, as shown in the movie between the lead pairs..

One guy says "The movie is really good and the best part is that you would not get bored at any point while watching the movie." But he was very quick to add, "The concept of live-in relationship is not at all for the Indian setting. It is impossible to live like as Saif and Preity together without getting married in India."


I am sick to death of Bollywood movies not being realistic enough and full of raw comedy. In fact, the comedy was so bad, worse than that of "Bride & Prejudice." Worst of all the scripts are no longer original. 95% of the movies are Hollwood remakes and the amount of vulgarity is just shocking.

I'm sorry, but I have lost faith in Preity and Bollywood. I just wished more movies like "Lagaan", "Swades", "Paheli", "Parineeta" or "Dil Chahta Hai" were made 'cos there is too much crap right now which I just cannot digest.

The performances in the movie were not bad, but I think it's high time Preity and Saif were to move onto more meaningful cinema.

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I agree with you, at the end of the day the films set in Australia, neither "amber" or "nick" pretend to be holier than thou indians or sticly follow the indian culture, nor did i even think of Nine Months til i came onto these boards. thinking about it now yeh there's some major similarities but hell most hollywood films are remakes of old hollywood films or the theatre. All in all i was in stitches and so was a packed out cinema. i thought preity's bump was a lil low though :| but all in all i've seen worse films :) thought saif looked rather dashing :) far-fetched? hardly come live in teh 21st Century with the rest of us

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hmm...u weren't a great big fan of preity's in the first place, to lose faith in her so quickly, and just because she chose to do a role that you didn't agree with. i understand what you're getting at when you say that a "live-in" relationship is considered taboo in our culture, and that our parents would disown us if they found out. But there's a lot of things that are considered taboo in indian culture...for example, majority of indian parents don't want their kids to have a gf or bf, yet that doesn't stop people from getting into relationships when their young does it? and thats all u see in hindi movies. same with pre-marital sex...of course it's considered taboo, but it's definitely a realistic view on how people are these days. trust me, a lot of people "don't mind" pre-marital sex, more than u can imagine. in my opinion, it was an entertaining movie, the comedy definitely wasn't worse than bride n prejudice, and the amount of vulgarity?? r u bein serious...i mean, what was so vulgar? the fact that they were kissing? or the suggested sex off screen. step into the real world, *beep* like this happens, it doesn't matter if you're indian or not.

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I did not mind Preity's performance, but I do feel now that she is constantly accepting similar roles. I mean this one was no different to "Kya Kehna" right.

I know *beep* like this does happen in the real world. However, I wish you expanded on the topic of our parents and relatives or friends disowning us or looking down on us. This is the truth you know. I have had cousins who have done the same thing. Your parents must be quite lenient by the sounds of things.

And btw, I have had a boyfriend before as well, but there is no big deal with that! Of course I did not sleep with him. We just went out for a while.

"Salaam Namaste" dealt with this topic so immaturely - grown people not having any idea that condoms don't work all the time and how about Ambar - how come she couldn't take the pill! Then the story about Arshad Warsi getting married to Tania Zaetta after one day of meeting her. (Just an aside - how and where on earth did she get the bridal gown? There aren't many bridal shops near Rye!?)

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Preitysrkfan... i think it depends on the way you view the movie... i'm frm melbourne as well and i have a lot of friends (desi and non-desi) who have found themselves in similar situations, be it live in relationships, or unplanned pregnancies. i think that the acting in the movie was immature, but i think the plot dealt with the fact that a lot of adults do find themselves in situations that are a result of "immature"/questionable decisions. i think it is a step in the right direction for Bollywood, in terms of dealing with "taboo" subjects that are being practised quite rampantly by NRIs and even Indians in India (i am in no way generalizing... merely stating that it's nothing too out of this world)

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bio girl it's a bit hypocritical to say its okay to have a boyfriend but not okay for premarital sex, because both are considered taboo, as dating someone is as "shaming" anyway. also the whole condoms dont work thing was actually a storyline in friends, and a lot of people do not know condoms arent 100% accurate. people should, but they don't. also, maybe there was a reason she couldn't take the pill, because some people can't take it because there are risks of hypertension etc. also, i agree with bolissa, AS IF girls in real life giggle and run away shyly when guys try to kiss them. It's more realistic to express your feelings by kissing. to be honest, most sappy bollywood romantic films aren't even realistic. I assume you're Indian lol, and so am I, and I don't know where you live, but I live in the west, and salaam namaste did a damn good job of portraying westernized indians. It's time to realise that there's a new generation of indians that aren't the stereotype indians, that don't believe the same things their parents do, that have been brought up in a completely different society.

You say that so many times it doesnt affect me anymore!

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I agree with you in most part of your post GINAKALIRAI. To say that someone is or not as big of a fan is a little out there though, but lets move on. I don't think that when this film was being made or written, it not directly to offend or go against any cultures--in this topic, Indian culture. SALAAM NAMASTE is a MOVIE. It's thinking out of your 'comfort zone' and outside of the box. Many movies are being made in this world that one persons may find offensive but since it is a movie, expect it to be JUST a movie. I'm sure about 95% of the time, movies that are being made are not meant to offend or go against anyone culture and I don't believe SALAAM NAMASTE is part of the other 5%.

"It happens, things happens, sh*t happens..." and some people have a harder time to get that in their reality/realistic perspective. (And I am just saying this in general so no one get the wrong idea.) Call them ignorant maybe, but I don't blame or would go against those who still have such beliefs or live that way of life(disagreeing with live-in relationships, etc). MORE POWER TO YOU!

I am Preity fan and enjoy watching her movies. Even though I have not yet seen SALAAM NAMASTE, I give great appreciation and respect for what she does and have done. I don't prefer to base my likes of anyone (in this case Preity) because of ONE movie I don't agree with--she portrayed a character, so it doesn't reflect on how she really is in real life or as a person. I would much rather comment on a movie as a whole. For example, did I like the movie as it is or not and my reasons maybe because of bad directing, bad acting, etc... I TRY to separate my own beliefs or morals when it comes to movies because it is from someone else's perspective (the director, writers, etc). Not to take it the wrong way, it is perfectly fine to have an opinion and dislike a movie, but like I said, I would rather not base my likes on anyone (or have a change of mind) because of the story concept or one scene I didn't agree on.

Another thing, what is the big deal with SALAAM NAMASTE being similiar to NINE MONTHS? What's wrong with that? There are many films that are being remade in different versions or twists. It happens! Want a recent example? HUM TUM and A LOT LIKE LOVE (starring Ashton Kutcher). Same story concept: Girl meets boy, over and over and over again, then friendship grows to love with drama and comedy in between. NOTE: I would recommend HUM TUM over the other. ;P


My say and 2cent in other's post:

PREITYSRKFAN states, "You have to wonder after watching the movie, what on earth will Nick and Ambar's parents think about all of this if they return to India?!" And also, "I am sick to death of Bollywood movies not being realistic enough and full of raw comedy."

That would be interesting to see and if this was included it would probably extend the 3 hour mark don't you think? What is 'realistic'? People have different views when it comes to that topic as well as comedy. What some others may find comedy, others may find offensive or not funny. It's a way of life...you can't make EVERYONE satisfied.

"I did not mind Preity's performance, but I do feel now that she is constantly accepting similar roles."

I see where you are going with this. Maybe if someone comes up with something new and offers it to her. WRITERS, start brainstorming with something different and entertaining! :) Get these actors and actresses some new materials and new characters to portray! Despite, Preity's acting abilities and on-camera (surely off-camera as well) presence is amazing! Don't you agree?


BOLISSA states, "Anyways, what's so wrong about kissing? Why does the camera always pull away just when there's about to be a kiss? Or the girl puts her hand up or runs away? Very unrealistic. If you are in love with someone, you kiss them. A lot. All the time. So, why can't Hindi movies portray that kind of realism?"

What's wrong with it? Nothing! It's BOLLYWOOD; although, some Bollywood movies are pushing it with the kissing scenes. Give it a few years, maybe there will be no, if not less 'barriers' in Bollywood when it comes to kissing scenes. Want kissing scenes and all MANY MORE? Hollywood would do justice. :)


DREAM_CATCHER210 states (from a different topic line), "Then, there's the anti-Indian-culture thing. I do get the point. But this story is set in AUSTRALIA, not India. We do not get to see open Sex-scenes, which is good, as that's what I don't like about most Hollywoodmovies. And yes, maybe they could have reduced the kissing. But for heaven's sake, movies are supposed to be entertaining. And that's what it is."

I agree about how movies are suppose to entertain. I want this out point out...Was the kissing scene minutes long or something? I have not seen the movie yet, but it seems to be a scene that many are mentioning.


To finally finish and end this post, overall I think many are thinking too much about this movie and making a big deal of nothing. Like for example, comparing this to movies that are much more dramatic such as PARINEETA. I am sure PARINEETA is better in a dramatic perspective, but SALAAM NAMASTE is a romantic comedy. Storyline and concept may differ, am i wrong? Since I have not seen this movie yet and apparently have commented too much about it, I will just have to wait and see if I will feel the same way after or if it's as good or as bad as some people have said it would be.

Thanks for reading! Take care. :)

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Just to comment on your comparison of Hum Tum and A Lot Like Love- I think Hum Tum is a complete remake of When Harry Met Sally, and if Hum Tum is like ALLL, then ALLL is probably a remake of WHMS.

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One thing i've noticed is that people are getting totally hyped up over the live-in (its called cohabitation by the way) concept and the pregnancy. I'm not saying i agree with it completely, but i must point out that its a very real issue. Perhaps not as common in India, but with teens and young adults from other countries, and yes, Indians in other countries, its definitely happening. You have to consider the fact that Nick and Ambar are living in Melbourne, mostly because they want to live their own lives. I don't think they much care what their parents will say about their living together. (which is why, you'll notice, there's not one mention of their parents finding out or anything like that).

And saying that parents will kill or disown us is far-fetched, while not entirely untrue. And fact is that India is becoming more and more modern by the day, and in some ways thats not a bad thing. Change isn't always good, but it's necessary. Cohabitation, pre-marital sex, etc are real and important issues today. I mean, come on, a few generations back, the concept of a boyfriend was pretty much unheard of. So before you diss the movie, think of it objectively and consider that the fact that its a very real, perhaps not entirely accurate (its a movie!) portrayal of at least a part of today's world.

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haha against the indian culture??? ok yea, i guess if you are living in some indian village...and that being maybe years ago...but i live in canada (im indian)...have lived here all my life, and u know what, its ok to cohabitate here. I did for about a year (with a white guy to boot lol) and yea, there may have been a few people in my family who didnt agree with it (mainly the guys), but u know what, my immediate family was ok with it as long as i was happy and healthy.

i think it all depends on the family. how accepting they are to western thought and how much trust they have in their children to make their own mistakes and choices....overall, i dont think most indian families are as anal about stuff like this as we would like to think...when presented with the situation, i think they warm up to it pretty quick.

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wow. do you people live in the stone age? live in relationships are "taboo" "my parents will disown me". i would hope my parents would love me regardless and accept and support whatever decisions i make in life. It's my life, i'm not living to make them happy. maybe that's why this movie found a broader more accepting audience overseas.

(copy and pasted from my post from another thread...seems more appropriate here)

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Hello,

Good point badmaash. I think in some cultures, they still find it taboo to live with a partner before marriage but I think more and more family traditions are becoming modernized. I don't think it is as serious as it was before being asian I know my family does have a say in who I date or even marry. Respect is what it is, I guess. Do you get what I'm saying? In a way, I would want my parents and family to accept whoever I decided to be with.

Take care! :)

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FIRST of all...BOLLYWOOD MOVIES ARE NOT MEANT TO BE REALISTIC...to ME they are a very EFFECTIVE escape from REALITY...o yea ppl ALWAYS break out in a song number rite??...Reality in Bollywood is like oil in water...THEY DONT GO TOGETHER!!!...y cant ppl get that thru their HEADS???...MOVIES IN GENERAL arent supposed to be TOTALLY realistic...yea ur supposed to relate SOMEWHAT to the characters but if the movies were modeled after everyday life then HOW BORING would the movies BEE??...seriously ppl think about how much REALITY u actually want in ur movies before u start raggin on it for not having enough...i get ENOUGH reality checks during ma life...MY movie tickets are for a slice of UNREALISTIC ENJOYMENT

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Salaam Namaste was a total waste!
The kissing scenes were very nasty...and plus how did that dumb movie still manage to become a hit?

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