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THIS MOVIE IS NOT A COMEDY!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!


Why is this movie in the top 50 comedy movies on IMDB? Like I said in the title this movie is not a comedy it is a social satire or a tragedy but it sure isn't a comedy

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I agree with you, I didn't see the film as a comedy. The only thing barely resembling any kind of humor was the sarcastic lines from the smart ass doctors.

It was a powerful and dark depiction of life in and around hospitals. I felt bad for the patient, bad for the nurse and I even felt bad for the doctors, as the system and the workload made them rough, harsh, offensive and discriminatory.

The movie felt too real to me to laugh about it, but maybe it's because I'm Romanian, maybe other people see it differently.

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Probably, but sad.

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It's considered a 'black comedy'. Nothing you laugh your ass off too.

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I was laughing my arse off, but then I've got a sick sense of humour.

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who laught at this movie i don't understand. but the producers selled it like a comedy. you saw the poster for the movie, it did not look like the movie at all.
for same obscure reason the people involved with this movie wanted us to think it's a comedy before we actually saw it.

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I do think marketing the film as a comedy was a mistake, given the general understanding of the word "comedy" in a modern context; a degraded context. Yet it is a VERY black comedy. Adam Sandler will not being doing a remake...

I read Doestoevsky's "Crime and Punishment" a few years back, and I swear it was the funniest book I've ever read: this sort of comedy is akin to absurdism, akin to "Kafkaism": if one does laugh it is because there is literally nothing else left to do. Sustained frustration is a form of comedy.

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While the overall premise of this movie is not funny, it is filled, from front to back with comedy that only a Romanian (or someone who has lived in Romania) would get. From what's playing on the TV in the backgroud to his answer when the nurse asks him if he eats a normal diet, it is riddled with humor, all bathed in cultural context.

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I realized this was a black comedy and still failed to find any dark humor.

I would love to understand the cultural humor in this film. Would you care to elaborate more on various exaples? Please.

Figuring it had something to do with social norms in Romania, I still kept wondering why neighbors, nurses and doctors were so quick to blame all Mr. Lazarescu's ills on his alcohol consumption. The film itself never caused me to realize his drinking was out of control.

On a personal level, I have worked in animal control here in the US and have had the experience of removing pets from homes in which the caretaker (owner) has passed. It's a very sad experience and very traumatic on the animals often leaving them depressed for months.

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the way i see the drinking problem is this: (and yep, i'm a Romanian). Back when romania was a communist state one of the things our people borrowed from the russians was a drinking habit. russians drank because it was cold, romanians drank for various reasons. The point is that romanians drank bad alcohol, like Polar vodka, which is very close to alcohol used for sanitizing purposes, mainly because it was, and still is, very cheap. so one of the reasons people blame any kind if illness on alcohol consumption is because of the quality of the alcohol. the quantity of alcohol really doesn't have much to do with it.... in romania old men, widowers, who live alone, are thought to drink a lot (mostly not true) by their neighbors not because they do, but because if they didn't there wouldn't be anything to talk about the next day, and the next day, and the next day. and in romania, in my experience, anything can be and is blamed on alcohol consumption: oh that old man is so rude/grumpy/fat/skinny/wrinkly/confused/forgetful/nice/happy all the time/..... (you get the gist :)) YEP he must be a drunk!

hope my comment was at least a bit helpful :)
cheers

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In the movie, the wife of Mr. Lazarescu's neighbor blamed his drinking problem on the way Hungarians drank (Mr. Lazarescu's deceased wife was Hungarian), a bad habit that Mr. Lazarescu passed onto his neighbor. I don't know if that's a sly reference to regional discord between the Romanians and the Hungarians. As a US citizen who never studied that part of Europe very closely, I was surprised to learn from the film that Romanian had a lot of words in common with Italian and other Romance languages (guess that's why it's called Romanian... :-). In contrast, a quick check of Wikipedia after viewing the film revealed Hungarian is quite a different language indeed, so Romania and Hungary are probably two entirely different cultures.

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The movie is a combination of satire, sarcasm and caustic wit. Attacking a problem with medical care.

Comedy is about having something humorous happen for the punchline (ending)

SO. No. this is in deed not a "black comedy". It is drama, plain and simple.

The comedy listing I suspect is an error.


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How right you are! I think I have never been in such an anguish after a movie, probably because of my hypochondriac side.

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This is more an existential comedy, having more in common with a Waiting For Godot than a There's Something About Mary. Personally I didnt even consider it to be much of an existential comedy either. It sort of had one satirical, darkly amusing thing to say, and it kept saying it over and over, with a rocking, unsettling camera to boot.

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Not all movies about the absurd can be characterized as comedies and this is one of them - at least to someone who doesn't speak Romanian. It's as bleak as Waiting for Godot but lacking in wit.

I realize that some Romanians will disagree. Please show me where the English subtitles didn't do justice to the humor and I'll be happy to change my mind.

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Part of the problem if you folks saw it subtitled as I did (& I'm not Romanian) and this problem's true with any film that crosses borders is that the subtitles probably didn't do the film justice though I understood the jist of it. This film's obviously not overt slapstick so my guess is that the translation ignores or misses the small cultural ironies and nuances that the sharp dialogue relies on to generate laughs. I bet some of this stuff may not even be translatable into English.

Perhaps you Romanian fans who laughed your asses off could elaborate on this for us clueless 98% of the world? Even with this minor peeve, I think it's still a superior film. Thanks in advance.

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I'm Romanian,i saw it and trust me, it's not a comedy, it's a satire at most, a satire of the present state of the medical care/authorities here, in Romania. The cruel irony of having to die slowly because you get sent from doctor to doctor due to lack of papers.. or of trust "he's a drunkard...". Birocracy with freckles of humanity. But not enough to maintain life for the less fortunate. Survival of the fittest or death being allowed to happen. You choose your interpretation, and i assure you that this is not "comedy".

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...the subtitles probably didn't do the film justice...


Agreed.

I kept bouncing back and forth between i) thinking the subtitle translation was among the worst I've seen and ii) thinking the original dialog was apparently so full of slang and puns and linguistic oddities and cultural references that a decent translation was essentially impossible.

It almost felt like the subtitle translation was by people that were trying desperately to be "hip", but weren't native English speakers. These subtitles were similar to what I'm used to when they're done on the cheap in the country of the film's origin, rather than as carefully as possible in cooperation with a foreign distributor. They felt similar to what I sometimes see in Japanese Animes whose major market is Japan and U.S. distribution was only an afterthought.

After only the first ten minutes I essentially gave up on the subtitles and started to pay closer attention to the visuals and the characters' tone of voice.

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This movie is defenetely not a comedy (i'm starting to repeat myself :) ), like previous posters said this is a dark satire of the romanian medical system.
I'm romanian and I saw nothing funny in this movie aspeacely since there are a few thing in the movie that actualy happen in real life (like the ambulance phone operator being extremly rude and the complete lack of comunication betwen diffrent hospitals).
It must be an error that this movie is rated as a comedy...or maybe people just don't understand the director's vision

P.S. Sorry about the spellig errors...

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The spots for "top 50 comedy" on imdb are reserved for additional drama flicks they couldn't fit in "top 50 drama". That's the way I see it (C.R.A.Z.Y is comedy too!), imdb's members are way too smart for me.

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I have used IMDB for a while now, and it has been extremely useful at times. I am not one to harp on and on about where I am from, but the gross misrepresentation of calling this movie a comedy upset the Romanian in me to no end! What ignorance. Shame on such an international and supposedly well informed site as this. I should have watched the DVD with English subtitles, maybe it was translated so badly it came off as comedy in English? But I highly doubt this is the case. I think it is more a case of ha-ha look at these awkward and weird chain-smoking-drunk-cold-hearted-former-eastern-block people - and maybe it would be [dark] humour to someone who is not from there. But being from Romania - and please, anyone else Romanian feel free to tell me how you feel - I felt sick to my stomach with the reality and tragedy of this movie. As another post on this site described it perfectly, this movie was like a reality show to those who truly understand it. Doubly painful for an emigrant who left for Toronto, bears Mr. Lazarescu's daughter's name, and has had a grandmother die from a brain aneurism because the ambulance took 50 minutes to come in 1993. It was like reliving it over again to the last detail.

Whoever sees this as comedy as a sick, twisted and maybe needs a checkup themselves.

However, I do appreaciate the movie's cinematic value - it was briliantly acted. My one and only consolation is that I know it was actors, only actors - in the end, and the pain was acted....

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Draga Biancaciurescu :), I totally agree with you and also appreciate the brilliant acting and the detailed and natural way that the movie evolved. It's beauty lies in it's credibility. When I saw it I had the impression I was watching something resembling more a news report (live from the scene) than a movie. The day I saw it I felt like crap... very depressed and the only thing popping in my mind was that that could very easily happen to someone I know and love and the fact that I as an individual am powerless to stop it. That is why I wish to offer you my condoleances and hope that this movie is understood properly and not misinterpreted


Cu tot respectul.

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It isn't just the IMDB site or individual reviewers that labeled this a comedy - take a look at the DVD cover on the IMDB site. In big huge letters on the front of the box, it says, "THE MOST ACCLAIMED COMEDY OF THE YEAR" If someone has to be blamed, try asking the filmmaker and producer why they let it get marketed as a COMEDY. That is just a very bad marketing decision.
I completely agree that this is NOT a comedy and we are not just missing something really subtle. Calling this a comedy would be like calling HBO's Baghdad ER a comedy. Which it certainly isn't. And I understand what dark humor is. Dr. Strangelove is dark. But "comedies" are funny, even if the topic is not funny - we find ourselves laughing in spite of ourselves. And nothing about this movie is funny. Waiting for Godot is a laugh-fest compared to this.

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I agree absolutely...
in fact living in N. America, where one normally doesn't even have the benefit of compassionate neighbours and would probably end up being eaten by his cats.. this film seems to me more of a horror movie than any chainsaw massacre !!
..or conversely, a heroic epic for nurses.. bless their hearts..!!

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Existential horror film and social satire is the way I would describe it.

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I have recently watched this film and all the way through i was waiting for something funny? only on the dvd features were i watched the trailer could i see the intended humorous situations. However, i think its possibly the way in which different cultures find things funny, and what other cultures find just saddening.

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