CALLING ALL AMERICANS!!!! - Black Irish (2021) Discussion

[–] 17 years ago

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it could be that a large part of the american population has irish roots so its a bit of kinship thing lol i am about half irish so to me its kinship

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[–] mlong1984 17 years ago

i've seen firsthand on several occassions that american girls love guys with accents. pretty funny/sad to see happen so much, no offense to you, but it says something about a lot of girls in the states..but not all of them!

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[–] deathcab 17 years ago

No accent gets me more than an Irish one... or British, mind you. I don't know what it is about it, just the way they talk... Oh my goodness! I'm almost 100% Irish, so hearing people from the old country makes me feel that much more at home. That's just me, though.

The fat man walks alone.

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[–] jacob07072002 17 years ago

Americans like foreign accents. It doesn't matter where your from. The Irish are a minority in America.

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[–] Lechaise 17 years ago

Maybe it's because the Americans find it hard to accept the majority of them actually hail from Germany or the UK so the third options the best.

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[–] vmccann 17 years ago

most of the heil from the UK??
where do you get your info from to back up this remark.

last time i heard, The english were kicked out on their colonial a r ses...

This race and this country and this life produced me,he said.I shall express myself as I am - Joyce

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[–] Catdubh 17 years ago

last time i heard, The english were kicked out on their colonial a r ses...

I am with you VMCANN, what on earth is the previous poster trying to imply, most Americans are descendants of the English? LOL, there are more Irish living aboard than in Ireland, and the US in full of us Irish folks.

As far as the OP's question, why are Americans so fascinated with the Irish? (the OP also relayed in his story that Americans were taken by his Irish accent.) I think Larry 411 gives an excellent answer. I too think Americans are fascinated with foreign accents, of all kinds, particularly those from the European continent.

Slan!

What, just for once in your life can't you be serious?

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[–] nospam-260 17 years ago

I am from one of the far southern states so I talk real slow with a southern accent. Whenever I leave the south I get a mixed reaction to my accent. Some treat me like I am a hillbilly. One of the first times I left the south I was surprised that most people would hear my voice and make fun of me for being stupid without knowing anything about me. Then I found out that a lot of girls would hear me talk and get giddy over it. I mean like fall in love at first sound hahaha.

Back in the 90's while out of the south I met a guy from the north who had never known anyone from the south. Once we got to know each other better he asked me if in the south we wore shoes. He was as serious as could be when he asked it. He was just dumbfounded that my description of my hometown sounded like his.

Now because of my work I talk to people on the phone from all over the world. I would rather have to deal with a person from outside the states. The reason is people from up north without even knowing me talk down to me, don't care what I have to say, just totally close their minds off to me because of the way I sound.

Oh, I may sound funny but I own an advertising company. Have employees, am well known in my field, etc. Things ain't always the way they seem at first haha.

Anyway, all I can say is if you talk different and are young and single, go for the girls while you can ;-)

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[–] nammage 16 years ago

I dislike stereotypes people have of Southern Americans. I actually had an ex from a northern state asked me: So, are you racist? - and it wasn't asked in the manner to ask, but, as if because I'm southern I'm automatically a racist, or presumed to be one because I'm southern. I hardly ever get insulted, quite rare for me to get insulted but I think she insulted me when she asked that.

-Nam

'...the ultimate ending is: war itself.'

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[–] Larry-115 16 years ago

I am with you VMCANN, what on earth is the previous poster trying to imply, most Americans are descendants of the English?

Um, the most commonly cited ethnic origin of Americans is English. After that is German, and third comes Irish. You can choose not to believe it if you prefer, but it's true. (Look it up.)

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[–] turnitaroundtwice 16 years ago

The Americans decided that they did not want to be ruled by the king anymore, but where do you think these people came from? They were originally british settelers.

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[–] nammage 16 years ago

The biggest population may have come from Great Britain (that's England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland) however, people from Spain, Italy, Scotland, Wales, Germany, Ireland, France (i.e. European countries) came to the Americas; and truthfully the biggest population that came to all of the Americas were the Spanish. (i.e. Central, South America)

Technically, the Norse were here before the "English".

-Nam

'...the ultimate ending is: war itself.'

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[–] turnitaroundtwice 16 years ago

What does that have to do with anything? I didn't say anything about how the current population is made up.

I was replying to someone who said that the American's kicked the English out on their arses, and i was making the point that the war of independence was essentially a war where the English were fighting the English, since it was English colonies that rose up. And since were talking about what is now the USA all your talk of the americas is completely irrelevant.

And for your information, Great Britain is England, Scotland and Wales. Northern Ireland is part of the UK but not britain.

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[–] jaden165 16 years ago

Most of them do heil from the UK, there were British colonies who didn't want to pay harsh taxes anymore so they fought Great Britain (with help from the french) for independence.

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[–] tamander-3 16 years ago

As of the 2000 census, there are over 40 million persons of Irish descent living here. Not really a minority when you consider that the population of the USA reached 300 million on Tuesday, Oct. 17, 2006.

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[–] bear022013-588-696101 14 years ago

JACOB,I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOUR EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND IS...BUT THE IRISH ARE NOT,REPEAT..ARE NOT A MINORITY IN AMERICA!!
READ A BOOK MY FRIEND OR GOOGLE IT AND LEARN SOMETHING...PAL.
THE ANGRY WHITE BEAR

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[–] mxlflx 13 years ago

Because the Irish curse more creatively than anyone else...

Well, It's no mystery that ass has always been tits' greatest enemy... Kenny Powers

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[–] nammage 16 years ago

...and drunks. Can't forget the "drinking Irish".

-Nam

'...the ultimate ending is: war itself.'

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[–] dubexplorations 16 years ago

"Question is....What is it about the Irish that American people love??"

Answer is....It's your Lucky Charms ya daft bastard..!!

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[–] tim14johnson 16 years ago

I would argue that it's three-fold:
1. The Irish Lilt, there is a musical quality to the actual intonation of the Irish accent that is appealing
2. The Irish are traditionally a people fascinated by language (if you don't believe me, check out the book "how the Irish saved civiliazation") therefore, with a better (and often more poetic) grasp on the effective use of language to inspire emotional respons than many western cultures, Irish people often come off as dreamers, which is also appealing.
3. The Irish have this fight in them that is beyond definition. I think it comes from a millenia of fighting for survival. You see something similar in Jewish culture, and in African American cultures, that "shaking of the fist" and "damn the man" attitude. Perhaps Bono said it best, something to the effect of "in America, you look at that guy in his big house, up on the hilltop and you think, 'wow, that's what I want to be'" but in Ireland we see that guy and we think "damn you, I'm going to take your house." I think America's roots of "nevermind the odds, I'm going to fight to my dying breath" resonate with a similar attitude from the Irish (at least that was my experience in Ireland). But what's truly endearing about the Irish was that combined with that musical, poetic, fiery passion was a deep compassion and generosity, rarely seen anymore in the US. A sort of "we'll kick yer ass, and afterword we'll share a beer"

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[–] tomisinthehouse 16 years ago

The Irish and Italian are the most popular cultures in Movies from Hollywood. Pop Culture in America has alot of influence with this.

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[–] Larry-115 16 years ago

The Irish and Italian are the most popular cultures in Movies from Hollywood.

Then why is there a Jewish character in virtually every movie made in America, when Jews comprise about 2% of the US population?

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[–] Hancockenstein 12 years ago

Not referring to all Americans, and only stereotypes that aren't hateful. but maybe it's nowhere near as apparent unless a character says "I'm Jewish", than an Irish or Italian saying anything really. the 2 always seem to be written alot more stereotypically in movies at least as far as speech/mannerisms in comparison to Jewish characters.

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[–] pd-42 16 years ago

imho, the irish came here to the states with nothing and worked VERY hard to build better lives for themselves. they even took jobs tha no one wanted to do. so i think it is mostly respect for the tenacity of the irish, not to mention your strong sense of family, your gift of saint patrick's day, and two of our greates politicians; jonh and robert kennedy!!!! men like them very seldom come along!!!

i'm 100% german, but i love the irish:)

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[–] sam-thetruth 16 years ago

As an American, I just find myself in love with European accents. They are just so cool, I don't know why.

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[–] Tarataqa 16 years ago

I must agree with most of the others here. It's the exotic and melodic tone. Most Americans I know wouldn't find an Asian, Middle-Eastern, African or Indian accent particular attractive, but the European ones are popular.

I mean compare it to the American accents (New York, Maine, Boston, Minnesota, Georgia, Texas, Deep South...hell even Canadian or Mexican accents aren't as cool either)

I'm in Texas and think a Welsh accent is sexy!

But FYI, no one should fall for exotic accents watch the movie Hostel and see why! LOL!

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[–] sophieb1000 16 years ago

i dont think that the americans can really tell the difference between the accents. im from england and when i was working in a bar in boston everyone thought i was irish, and iv just got a regular english accent, its not even northern wer i guess the accents could be simular to the untrained ear. they wer all still pritty excited after i told them i was english thow, got quite a few 'do u no the queen' questionns aswel as quite a few beers brought.lol. twas fun.

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[–] jdowney83 16 years ago

I think a lot of americans descend from Ireland, and because of that seem to have an interest in their own heritage. outside of that few americans understand the diffrence in accents, but obviously know its different and will ask and then when they find out your irish will ask more questions.

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[–] nammage 16 years ago

I sometimes mix Scottish, Irish accents, but, I can tell the different between an Irish accent, and an English accent. I can even tell the difference between a Welsh accent, and an English accent. Though, your analysis for "most" americans is probably accurate but you don't exactly use the "most" word, and clump us all up into one.

Can you tell a Floridian Southern accent to a Georgia Southern accent?

Can you tell the difference between someone from (based on accent) Massachusetts to someone from New Jersey? The accents are different.

I even think most non-Americans can't tell between different accents of those from the states.

-Nam

'...the ultimate ending is: war itself.'

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[–] BeastOfGevaudan 16 years ago

>>> i dont think that the americans can really tell the difference between the accents<<<

It's easy to differentiate UK accents, at least for me it is. I have a lot of friends from the UK and my Aunt is British so that may have something to do with it.

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[–] nammage 16 years ago

My mother's side of the family originate from Ireland, they came here in the 1850's. So, Heritage for me. Probably why I have a grasp for knowledge, etc., on Wales since my father's side originate from there in the 1790's.

-Nam

'...the ultimate ending is: war itself.'

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