its the truth about the scots - The Last King of Scotland (2007) Discussion

[–] gugrad94 16 years ago

So the majority aren't really prejudice people? I'm black and if I wanted to go there to live, I wouldn't have much trouble?

"GG."

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[–] farcoat 16 years ago

they are well liked, i said, i didnt say they liked everyone. ehehhe!
everyone is prejudiced regardless of nationality though.

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[–] sanalinas 16 years ago

farcoat: "they are well liked, i said, i didnt say they liked everyone."
That is the funniest response I've seen on these boards. Well put.

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[–] Little_Korean 16 years ago

"So the majority aren't really prejudice people? I'm black and if I wanted to go there to live, I wouldn't have much trouble?"

Depends where you go, of course, but it's fairly easy going. I suspect you'd have more problems as an English person than a black one.

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[–] rvrob2003 15 years ago

really? the scots hate the english?

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[–] galluslass 15 years ago

The Scots can be quite racist without really meaning to be and it's not really their fault as most grew up almost in entirely white communites and are just not used to mixing with different ethnic groups though obviously things are changing now. Like another poster, I grew up in a small town with only one 'black' family who seened to be accepted (the mother was white) as they were no threat and seemed quite interesting and exotic. If you are a visitor from another country - you will be welcomed and people will be interested in you and will be friendly. I've lived out of Scotland for about 13 yrs now and it still annoys me when I go home and everyone still uses terms like 'going round the Pakkies for some milk' or ordering in a 'Chinki'. They just don't get that these terms are no longer acceptable and are classed as offensive even though they mean no harm or offence.

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[–] CharlesVariations 16 years ago

Maybe I should go live in Scotland...since I am Scottish.

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[–] gugrad94 16 years ago

I'm not naive to think that all Scotthish people are open-minded. I just wondered if the majority were OK. I do know there's prejudice everywhere. Even black people can be prejudice.

"GG."

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[–] CharlesVariations 16 years ago

Yea, that's true. Racism is everywhere, but i do believe in some countries its not as bad as others. I think in Ireland and Scotland racial hardships aren't as bad or widespread as other countries.

Are you a black man trying to escape racial hardship finding solitude in another country?

I myself want to live in Siberian exile, find companionship with tribesmen and hunt and fish.

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[–] gugrad94 16 years ago

Charles Variations, I'm a black female who totally understands "Into the Wild", but not the way McCandeless did it and my "wild" would be a fully functional house in the wilderness, not some abandoned bus.

I'm just curious about other cultures. I only know Americans since I'm American and never really traveled. I would like to go places and meet different kinds of people and know that they don't hate when they see me first.

It broke my heart to know a lot of Russians are prejudice. I love Russian culture (pre-revolutionary), history, art, language and the country itself (from what I've read).

And Sanalinas, that was a funny response.

"GG."

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[–] CharlesVariations 16 years ago

Yes...I know. Especially since the fall of the USSR. It sucks to know that.

I definitely know it effects you a lot worse then it effects me, and that is lame to know that I'm in the "clear" just because of my skin color while other people are looked down upon. But of course the one who actually experiences racial hardships are the ones feeling worse than me, which is terrible to know. But I know that I can never truly understand what it's like to experience racial hardship.

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[–] MingFoo 16 years ago

Racism isn't a big problem in Scotland although that's not to say that we don't have our share of racists. Religious bigotry is more of an issue than racism with the biggest city (Glasgow) having a very clear religious divide although this is not as big a problem as it maybe used to be.

Scotland really is quite a cosmopolitan country, quite a high percentage of the population leaves at a young age to travel and work in England and elsewhere which leaves a lot of jobs open for migrant workers such as the Polish.

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[–] gugrad94 16 years ago

MingFoo, what's the issue with religion? Is it same old Catholic vs protestant?

"GG."

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[–] MingFoo 16 years ago

Yeap same old Catholic v Protestant nonsense that's embodied by the two football clubs (Celtic & Rangers) in Glasgow who both have a huge following with regular attendances of 60,000+.

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[–] Island_Of_Ireland 14 years ago

no its not "same old catholic vs protestant" its scottish nationalism vs scottish unionism.. stop the ignorance on the subject, that its "religion" lol they dont give two fuqs about god.

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[–] Pharaoh-in-de-Nile 15 years ago

I actually think racism is a major problem in Scotland, though it is mostly directed at Englishmen (due to the "Bravehearts"...it's generally acceptable to say firebomb a work place owned by an English person in some parts of Scotland) and Scandinavians (many of the Highlanders are descended from Norsemen and are called Norse-Gaels, they used to be quite hated as not being "real" Scotsmen and so now many of them deny their Norse ancestry (hence some claim Somerled was not a Norseman despite his name which they claim is Gaelic when it is proven to come from "Sumarliði" meaning "Summer Leader"...the Gaelic form being "Somhairle" which is derived from it and anglicised as "Sorley") and cannot even admit to any connection between their Norse ancestors and themselves. I am a proud Norse-Gael unlike most of my kin.

It seems now that you have to be either "pure" 100% Gaelic (hence the Anglic Lowlands have experienced what I can only describe as cultural genocide...this is again due to the racism against the English and the "Gaelic master race" mentality).

So yes Scotland is at the moment a rather racist country, as is much of the UK, but that does not mean all Scots are racist.

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[–] gugrad94 16 years ago

But Charles, whites and other racial and ethic groups can feel racial hardships. It depends on where you live. You just haven't been to the right place. And I have to say in my lifetime, I've been very lucky not to know overt racism. In my dream world, I don't want anyone to experience that.

"GG."

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[–] Moviefannumerouno 16 years ago

"So the majority aren't really prejudice people? I'm black and if I wanted to go there to live, I wouldn't have much trouble?

"GG.""

-Would they be well-liked if they were a prejudiced people? :)

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[–] gugrad94 16 years ago

Possibly - they may be welcoming to people other than blacks or whatever. I didn't want to get on a racial tangent. Amin felt the Scottish people were accepting. The actor McAvoy, although an actor, doesn't seem to have an issue playing a romantic part with a black woman (which I hope he does a few more times). I was hoping Amin was right about this at least.

"GG."

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[–] djsnafu23 16 years ago

I thikn Pakistani people may disagree that here's not much rascism in Scotland.

Its not just overt rascism, its hitngs like how mnay girls would comfortablytakea Pakistani guy back home to their parents, how mixed grous of friends are etc...

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[–] barrynoelle 16 years ago

As a Scot who's just returned home after 17 years in Ireland, it's an interesting thread. The Irish have had to get used to a massive influx of immigration over the past ten years, and it's taken some cultural adjustment, shall we say. As a nation accustomed to generations of emigration, there have been signs that Ireland is jealously guarding its new-found prosperity, and doesn't appreciate others coming to share it.
Scotland certainly has its quota of racists, many buoyed by the sectarian divide and by the Braveheart style of nationalism that inspired the Ku Klux Klan, and, perhaps, Idi Amin.
Having said all that, there are few overt signs of racism in either country. Glasgow has an integrated Asian community that stretches back generations, about a third of the population of the small town of Gort in County Galway are Brazilian and loving it, and there are many, many more examples of successful multicultural communities.
One interesting point about Amin's expulsion of the Ugandan Asians was that the resulting economic loss to Uganda was very much Britian's gain - the expelled Asians became one of the UK's most successful immigrant groups. 30,000 arrived in the UK, and according to the BBC, that's the number of jobs created in just one city - Leicester - thanks to the entrepreneurial spirit of the exiles.
The Scots are likeable, but to say we're all not racist is as valid as saying we are all mean-spirited, knock-kneed, pasty, drunk whingers with a subsistence diet of deep-fried Mars Bars.
Loved the film, by the way...

"What are you so polite about?"
"For the same reason you are not. It was the eway I was brought up."

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