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Alternet article: 5 Reasons To Suspect Jesus Never Existed


This should stir the pot . . .

http://www.alternet.org/belief/5-reasons-suspect-jesus-never-existed?a kid=12186.218003.AKrezJ&rd=1&src=newsletter1017315&t=4

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All EXCELLENT points! Jesus is nothing but Judeo Christian MYTH and deep down Christians are full of doubt and they know the bible is crap!

I have even won discussions with clergy by simply pointing out there are THOUSANDS of pages of scripture from other gods and religions they think are fake. So if those can be fake why not the bible too? The bible does NOT come attached with evidence or any kind of corroboration for the CLAIMS they make!

The response from delusional mentally ill ChristNUT clyons? "But the bible says so!". LMAO! Go back and hang around with those crazy crackpot ChristNUTS!

Jesus NEVER existed! He is Judeo Christian MYTH!

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Hmmm, well in fairness the article is simply introducing the fact that mythicists exist, then listing some of their arguments.

My own thoughts are that a historical Jesus, though not a supernatural Jesus, existed. But I don't have an iron in the fire on this one so i remain open minded.

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You didn't even read the article, did you?

You sure as hell never read any of my posts.

I'm not convinced you've ever read a whole book in your entire life.

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Clyons you are nothing but a delusional psycho who is posting from a mental hospital! I have destroyed every piece of nonsense you have posted but you are so psychotic and in denial you keep posting more delusional garbage! LOL..it is only the bible and the obvious mythology in it that has been discredited! You are such an ignorant FOOL you believe in talking snakes, unicorns, the parting of the Red sea, the universe being created in 6 days, etc.

Thousands of churches close every year and belief in this middle eastern MYTH is dying more every year in the western world as fewer and fewer people take these fairy tales seriously!

I have even defeated clergy in showing them there is ZERO evidence of a historical Jesus! They admit no one scripture has any more evidence than another and you cannot simply use the bible to prove the bible is real!

Delusional ChristNUTS like you make 3 key mistakes:

1.Scripture is NOT evidence

2.Theology is NOT history

3.A story of a god is NOT evidence of a god


Jesus NEVER existed! He is Judeo Christian MYTH!

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--how you could post a link to a well-known hoax website, claiming snopes.com had bought into the Myther nonsense, when in fact the well-known hoax website was just making this story up to get hits from gullible gerties like you. And snopes.com went out of its way to say no such article had been published, and that modern scholarship clearly pointed to a historical Jesus, even as it pointed away from him being the supernatural being some people would like to see him as.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0455507/board/thread/224977993

(If the link doesn't work, just look for Mega's thread "Even Snopes says Jesus is a Myth!", just a short ways down the board.)

Mega, until you explain how you could be so incredibly stupid and naive, and apologize to everyone for being such a complete and utter tool, I don't see why anybody here should respond to anything you say. You can't seriously call yourself a skeptic when you believe anything anybody tells you that backs up your emotion-based opinions, without even doing a basic google search to back it up first.

I mean, there's a WIKIPEDIA article about the site you posted a link to, saying they deliberately post hoax stories.

Where do you get off calling anybody else gullible?

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Sorry, but these are just slightly more sophisticated versions of the same stupid discredited theories. The reason Carrrier and others debunk the worst elements of Mytherism, is that they want to go on making money and getting attention selling their own bad theories, and they don't like the competition--plus they recognize that the really out there theories make it harder for them to gain new adherents for their cult.

Which is what it is.

If you go against all existing scholarship, with absolutely no evidence to back you up--if you suggest, the way climate change debunkers or advocates of creationism do that 'both sides' must be presented, even if one side has absolutely nothing to offer but conjecture and invincible skepticism regarding the other side--then your mind isn't open--it's empty. You need to fill it with knowledge of the subject you're discussing, and that means reading real scholarship.

The article quotes Bart Ehrman--VERY VERY selectively. The fact is, Ehrman has destroyed Carrier and the others in his work. He's presented arguments they have no answer to.

Carrier has a PH.D, sure--that and five bucks will buy you a latte at Starbucks (seriously, there's no end of idiots out there with doctorates). He's not a real scholar. He's just one of the leaders of a tiny religious cult that will remain tiny. And yes, I said religious--to insist on believing in what you can never prove is, by definition, religious.



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Hi, clyons. Glad to see you're still kickin'.

:)

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And Mega's still flailing.

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There's nothing else that mega can do ... keeps coming back here with the same broken story that just doesn't float ...

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