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Abuse of Stereotypes *** May Contain Spoillers***


Hollywood movies are indeed full of stereotypes and smart educated people will agree that this one abuses that trait. I think people understand that southerners don’t make love with their sisters and that Brazilians don’t live in the Stone-Age.

The bus at the beginning is indeed insulting. Interstate bus lines in Brazil can be as comfortable as Greyhound; drivers are clean and well groomed. Tourists usually stay in 5 star hotels or in resorts such as Club Med. Crime rates are indeed high in big cities — as it used to be in some areas of Manhattan back in the 1980’s — but not in small villages (the one in the movie looks like an inner-city slum rather than a countryside town).

Honestly, I don't think Brazilians are outraged because of all the bad guys displayed in this movie. What upsets them is that you have American tourists in a slum, that the women are presented as whores, that an interstate bus is crap (and so is the road) and that virtually every single Brazilian (even the kids) is portrayed either as a criminal or as a scumbag who drives as a maniac and cleans the interior of his nose with his fingers.

If you decide to visit Brazil, just follow the guidelines given by the Brazilian consulate when you get your visa and you should be out of trouble. I never heard of a single American or European tourist murdered in Brazil and if you find an article about that I would love to see it (millions go there every year. A few are mugged simply because they don’t play safe).

A Hollywood slasher will never show a white Brazilian living in a 3 million dollar apartment in an upper-class area of Sao Paulo or Ipanema beach in Rio, as that doesn’t sell tickets. People crave for the bizarre and the exotic. We like to see foreigners shown as ugly, monsters, animals or idiots, because we want to maintain our jingoistic superiority complex. That’s why you don’t see many American movies shot in Belgium, Denmark or Norway.

The underwater scenes have some good suspense and are the best part of this movie. In spite of the stereotypes, think it is better than the average picture of this genre.

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it's a movie.

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yeah, we know Brazil isn't like that.

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I totally agree and I am not offended. All I am saying is that it abuses stereotypes and that I am aware that this is how they sell movies. Showing Rio's country club on Ipanema beach would attract no viewers.

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Tourist murders in Brazil?
Let me google that for you: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tourist+murdered+in+brazil

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Really...

I think you seriously need to get a life. It is a movie. People watch movies to escape reality. I hardly think that anyone is viewing "Turistas" of all things for an objective take on life.

Please, this was not a National Geographic special about Brazil...it was a cheap horror flick.

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If you don’t have any demands to the moviemakers, then there are a lot of movies for you to see:) and then I think you are stupid, because without demands the movies wont get better!

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Perhaps a Canadian needs his input (hehe -- self plug). I personally do not know a thing about Brazil. What I did catch though, was the Australian saying "she had been to worse places on earth (such as Colombia). Quite honestly, it's sort of saying like it "could be bad, if you don't know what you're doing." I haven't heard of any "stereotypes" from Brazil, but when you hear about countries from South America, a lot of times stereotypes come to mind, such as poverty, theft and evasion from tourists. Mexico gets a lot of that, and as a Canadian, in the last 3 months we have heard (from Ontario anyway) like up to 5 Canadians killed by idiots in that country (because they were tourists).

Either way, in order to please the ignorant, you have to feed them the shat. Not enough is said about Brazil, so why not "Hollywood it?" Obviously anyone from the country is going to be pissed about wrong things, or how they portray the country.. but just remember it IS Hollywood, and not as someone else posted, a documentary made by National Geographic.

Either way, I liked the flick. Especially because I knew butt-all about Brazil, so I had nothing to think about but how it WAS "Hollywooded." It doesn't make me think that Brazil is like this all the time, because like the original poster said, you don't hear about it. However, I do think about other South American countries LIKE that, such as Mexico and Colombia because of what you DO hear.

Take it as you will, but don't call a guy an idiot for being pissed off on how Hollywood treats a country that doesn't already get much attention.

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To coangr:

As far as I know, Mexico is in North America...

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Mexico is Central America...

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Does anyone know why its called Paradise Lost when it's got nothing to do with Paradise lost?

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From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico)

"The United Mexican States (Spanish: Estados Unidos Mexicanos (help·info)), or simply Mexico (IPA: /mɛks.ɪ.koʊ/) (Spanish: México (help·info)), is a country located in North America."

At least in Geography I think many Brazilians are better then some Americans...

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Seriously though,parts of brazil have a huge level of crime,and murders,cant see why any one can defend that,its a damn fact.
Also this is just a film set in brazil about a gang of body parts thiefs,could be any where in the world to be honest,dont tell me that does not happen,because it damn well does,probaly in many countrys.

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No, Mexico is in North America. Look it up.

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Mexico is part of both North and Central America.

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(I agree)

Asia
Africa
North America
South America
Antarctica
Europe
Australia

It's like the debate about whether Turkey is European, Asian, Both, Middle Eastern, etc..

Mexico is a part of NORTH AMERICA, but it's in the area called CENTRAL AMERICA. Just like how Iraq is in ASIA, but it's called the MIDDLE EAST.

It's not that hard, people. It's just geography.

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Where the flying **** did you get your information!? I’ve never heard anyone refer to Mexico being in Central America. That would be the countries south of Mexico and north of South America which would be El Salvador, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica and Panama foo.

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"A Hollywood slasher will never show a white Brazilian living in a 3 million dollar apartment in an upper-class area of Sao Paulo. . ."

Unless they're a drugs baron.

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I'm more up in arms about the movie cliches. did you notice how the three members of the group who had sex or thought about it, were killed off?

"I've got a little itch. Down there. Would you mind?"

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LOL nice one

OP get over yourself its a film not meant to be real life, look at the number of brits portrayed as bad guys

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I agree with OP. If some other country made a film portraying America and Americans in a bad light, all these people who are saying 'get over it, it's just a movie' would be up in arms crying about it.

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Anyone? Anyone at all know why its called Paradise Lost but its NOT Paradise Lost? U couldn't get away with calling a film 'Catcher in the Rye' or 'War and Peace' when it was nothing to do with those books so why here?

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whatever. seriously. apart from the fact it's a fictional movie that's set up to show a small town in a forrest (not the entire country of brazil) and a bus route that is meant to show you how isolated the main characters are (not a social commentary on the bus lines), every character in the movie was slightly stereotyped. the sexy swedes, the annoying whiny englishman, the american hero... pfft.

and what the hell was melissa george's accent? never have i head anyone talk like that here that wasn't a UK tourist. and by the way i'm australian, try living with steve irwen and crocodile dundee as your national cultural exports. it kinda makes you wish more people had seen chopper or romper stomper just for a different national identity. kinda.

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All I know is that the opening scene on the bus reminded me of when I was in St. Thomas a few years back and had one heck of a ride in bus. Set up by our cruise ship, to get to one of the beaches, we were taken on one heck of a roller coaster ride on narrow winding roads. And I remember a fellow passenger asking the driver to slow down a bit. However we did arrive safely. And when I went on spring break in Cancun, I remember the busses weaving in and out of traffic, accelerating and slamming on the brakes, and one time we had an ambulance behind us, and no one cared to pull over. It amazes me thinking about it, how much faith we trust our lives in strangers everyday.....

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It amazes me thinking about it, how much faith we trust our lives in strangers everyday.....

That is absolutely true. In days past, we would automatically be wary of strangers until they had proven they could be trusted over a period of time. Nowadays, we are conditioned via modern social norms, political correctness, and foolish optimism to accept pretensions of friendship and trust people automatically.


Illegitimus!

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haha, what a ridiculous post. It is tiring listening to people from third world countries moaning about their image which is projected by the civilised world. If you are tired of it then why don't you GET A *beep* JOB AND IMPROVE YOUR COUNTRY. Brazil has so many problems with poverty, child prostitution and crime that you are lucky to get off so easily!!

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Apparently your knowledge of Brazil is not better than your literacy. As far as poverty and crime goes... take a walk around Market Street and 7th in San Francisco and to see how "civiliZed" (yes, with a "Z") your world is. I just lost a friend to a mugger that stabbed him a few times on the chest and left him to die at his doorsteps. Yes, I am from a Third World (with caps please) country called United States of America.

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In ORIGINAL UK English, it is civiliSed with an S. I'm Danish and I know this. Please, do some research before you try being a know-it-all.

...just sayin'...

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Agreed. As an Australian I realiSe the differences too ;-)

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Perfect remarks. I'm brazilian, white(half german/half italian), living in Sao Paulo. People portrayed in this (good) thriller are stereotypes. Taking movie typos as 'physique du role' of a nation is strictly 'for the birds'...XD. Me and my wife actually liked the movie. Somehow better than 'Hostel'.Of course, cost of living in our country is far less expensive than in the U.S. or Europe. Never drink 'cachaça'(straight). Is quite strong. Beach resorts are, in fact very easy to spot. Village seashore bars are also very similar to the presented on the movie.Wild parties like those either, but only for the very lowlifes. Police stations and tourist assistence are virtually everywhere. No police car were found in the flick(!)One curiosity. The english subtitles are incorrect. Zamora says to the indian, before he gets his head blown: 'Stupid monkey'. 'N' words are fluent in portuguese on the flick. We have strong laws against racism and prejudice. No one would refer that way to a colored person in the real brazilian society as film portrayed, otherwise, would be arrested. Sao Paulo, 'Floripa'(Florianopolis) and the south portion of Brazil is actually european. Giselle Bündchen is a perfect sample of the southern brazilian standard. Latino looks like 'Kiko' and the indian are more representative of the countrie's northern portion(Rio de Janeiro and above).Mostly for the higher temperatures, brazilians took two to four baths a day, everyday. Kleenex is cheap and paper towels are easily found in everyone's houses and supermarkets. No nose picking freaks...XD. A movie is entertainment, and 'Turistas' is quite amusing.Those who claims to be 'offended' with the picture, somehow felt portrayed...lol.You can travel by bus or plane, it's quite safe and unexpensive.

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Steroetypes in horror movies are common place, im some cases its over the top, but in most cases its up to the veiwer to be educated enough to remind themselves that its mostly bs. Take wolf creek for example (as its the first tourist/isolation horror movie i could think of, and because im aussie), The entire movies takes place in the outback, the killer and the other male lead are aussie stereotype blokes, and the 2 ladies are stereotype brit tourists. But what you have to understand is that only 5% of Aussies lives more than 250km from the coast. But because of crocodile dundee and the late great steve irwin, most americans think we all live in the bush and have kangaroos as pets. IMO, stereotypes are sometimes exaggerrated, but the veiwer should be smart enough to see through it.

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I hate the portrayal of the English people in Independence Day.

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"I never heard of a single American or European tourist murdered in Brazil and if you find an article about that I would love to see it (millions go there every year. A few are mugged simply because they don’t play safe). "

I can count at least 6 portuguese tourists.
http://www2.correioweb.com.br/cw/2001-08-27/cab_100136.htm

Brasil is everything but a safe place, and the films only talk about that.

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Yeah! This movie is completely inaccurate. I mean the whole movie is set in Brazil, and there's not even a single monkey attack. Sheesh. Hire some fact checkers next time, Hollywood...

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