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Is the Apprentice.......

posted 16 years ago by Yngvelli
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the worst thing happening to the SC franchise`? Hes RIDICOUSLY overpowered. I dunno how many rounds ive fought him without managing to beat him.

[–] mxatt 16 years ago

I agree, he is a stupid character. I was playing arcade mode last night as Taki, and it took me over 10 minutes to defeat him, and then I got to the next match (against Algol), and that took me 25 seconds to complete both rounds. He is an utterly pointless character who is only there to promote a different game.

[–] Yngvelli 16 years ago

Exactly. He got ranged attacks, he can shot lightning from ground AND air, hes absolutly unpredictable and hes waaaaaaaay to hard for just one unlockable character in arcade mode.

Batman pwns all

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[–] mothmancold 16 years ago

Have you guys played much soul cal in the past?

I mean i have been playing them since soul cal 2 and they are one of my video gaming staples. And in each one the bosses are retardedly hard, the entire game really is supposed to be a challanging experiance.

Now this one i have found entirely too easy, granted i have only played through story ( with everyone but the last row of bonus charecters. ) and tower of souls ( into the late 2th levels) and only in tower of souls am i even starting to get challanged.

If arcade mode is as hard as you say , then awesome because though i think this is an awesome game, i have been disapointed at the lack of challange.

Btw, thanks for showing me how to get the apprentice though.

And if you guys are having trouble i find customization is key in this game. Your standred charecters don't really cut it.

[–] southamerica90 16 years ago

The Apprentice is definitely the worst thing happening to the Soul Calibur franchise. He's ridicilously powerful with attacks twice as quick as Vader, many overpowered Force abilities and the computer is absolutely broken with him.
An idea to Darth Vader: When taking an Apprentice, make sure not to train him so well you nearly can't beat him youself.

EDIT: To mothmancold. Compared to the Arcade with the Apprentice, Arcade in SC 1-3 were cakewalks.

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[–] mothmancold 16 years ago

Wow, i wish i would have remembered and played last night, because i have trouble believing that you guys all have never played the series before, lol.

But if it is as hard as you say , that is a little bit too far and is probably caused more by a broken charecter than good A.I.

[–] jaywolfenstien 16 years ago

I think you're right. I think they haven't played SC before.

The Apprentice is a horrible character because he's there to advertise another game (and the whole Star Wars characters is just a hideously transparent sales pitch.)

Arcade mode in SCIV, like Story Mode, is a joke. The Apprentice might seem hard because he's the only opponent who does anything (and yet you can still run up and throw him over and over and over -- oops, he got out of two throws -- okay, back to throwing over and over ...)

I almost always get 2 Critical Finishes against him because he guards way too much ... that is assuming I haven't killed him since the AI rips through his force powers, and once his force meter runs dry he stands there dazed saying, "Damn!"

If anyone thinks the Apprentice is hard, I invite you to play SCIII and get to Olcadan. Not that Olcadan was a broken character, but it's hard to beat the AI when when it's programmed to counter whatever button you happen to push. You got a combo that strikes vertically and then horizontally then vertically all within 10 frames? Watch Olcadan sidestep, duck, sidestep it with inhuman speed ...

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[–] beyond_outworld 14 years ago

If we had the choice of using those characters from SC1 or 2 (with all their moves intact!) then The Apprentice wouldn't be anywhere near as impossible to defeat! But no... we're stuck with what Namco has given us: dreadfully toned down characters with half the moves they used to have and inferior slow clunky game mechanics.

Of COURSE you're having problems with The Apprentice! None of my friends can beat him because their characters are literally half the fighters they used to be... I only manage to beat him because... because... I have no idea - luck I suppose coz I sure as hell can't do anything else in this turd of a game known as SC4! *sigh*

[–] jaywolfenstien 14 years ago

If we had the choice of using those characters from SC1 or 2 (with all their moves intact!) then The Apprentice wouldn't be anywhere near as impossible to defeat! But no... we're stuck with what Namco has given us: dreadfully toned down characters with half the moves they used to have and inferior slow clunky game mechanics.

Of COURSE you're having problems with The Apprentice! None of my friends can beat him because their characters are literally half the fighters they used to be... I only manage to beat him because... because... I have no idea - luck I suppose coz I sure as hell can't do anything else in this turd of a game known as SC4! *sigh*

If you and your friends are having trouble beating the Apprentice, it's because you and your friends aren't very good. You might really like the Soul Calibur series, but you're not very good. Plain and simple. Don't blame the characters for your inability to play the game.

If you don't like IV's fighting system or what they did to your characters, fine. Fair enough. Go back to SCI or II.

But the Apprentice in Arcade mode is easy to beat. He's retardedly easy to beat. Here's video proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0FsRpwlZUM

Yep, that's ONE combo plus throws. Can he get any more pathetic? I'm glad you asked: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMzYd77RpDY

That's right. The Apprentice in Arcade Mode beaten using only throws. Not only beaten, but beaten with a perfect using the same throw four times in a row.

You admit your friends can't beat him. You confess you can barely beat him. And there's a video showing me beating him with ONE move. This evidence suggests you and your friends are incapable of mastering the timing of a SINGLE move. Not even a combo. One bloody move. If you can't handle ONE move, then there's no reason to believe you can handle a combo, much less, an entire move list. This renders your complaints about SCIV characters having, ahem, "half the moves they used to have" useless. SCII might have more moves, but I doubt you and your friends are getting any real use out of them. You're just fooling yourselves.

To drive home the point, here's another battle with the Apprentice in VS Mode on Edgemaster Difficulty (about five times harder than anything you fight in Arcade Mode.): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BPjM_s2VCI

This video showcases a much wider array of moves, most of them stupidly unsafe and would get me killed in any competition, and yet The AI Apprentice doesn't get a single win (in fact, he gets CFed twice.)

These videos show The Apprentice can be beaten (and beaten easily). If you know anything about the battle engine of SCIV, then you know these tactics won't fly against any halfway competent player. So, again, stupid tactics defeat the Apprentice, and by your own admission you're incapable of rising to the level of stupid play capable of beating an even stupider AI ... why should we believe anything you say regarding the mechanics of gameplay when you can't master pushing two buttons together to throw?

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