You can't change the same player twice - She's the Man (2006) Discussion

[–] bbb984 10 years ago

You can in high school.

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You (bbb984, that is) are, of course, right. Under standard high school rules (National Federation of State High School Associations), players can reenter a game.

Of course - even if that weren't the case - the really relevant rules are whatever are applicable in games between Cornwall and Illyria. Apparently, despite the OP's belief on the subject, they allow free substitutions.

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[–] bbb984 10 years ago

Thanks

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[–] TCCPhreak 9 years ago

To be honest, the soccer-stuff irritated me too. I don't really care about or follow soccer but I'm a little familiar with the rules (being from Europe) and was fairly "surprised" about some things.
If the main character has such an obsession with the game and it's such a large part of the plot, why didn't the filmmakers read a rulebook?

First of all: Why soccer? As was discussed in another thread, this movie is set in America ("London, England" is a big deal) and from what I remember, "handegg" is more popular there. The idea of schools having soccer teams, socker being a big deal and even talent scouts watching just puzzles me.

Teams change sides after halftime so that each time has to play against the sun for some time. They don't change in this movie. This is even more ridiculous as the playing side is determined after the coin toss.

After a goal, the game is restarted in the middle of the field. This movie shows a corner kick.

Either the penalty kick succeeds or it doesn't. It's matter between the goalie and the kicker. If the goalie successfully defends, he kicks the ball back into play or - in this case - the game is over. This movie not only continues the game and let's other players interfere; it also mixes up the "penalty" penalty kick (after a foul) and the spot kicks (after regular and extended playing time resulted in a draw).

Offside rule is a science of it's own but I'm pretty sure the filmmakers messed this up, too. I also believe that none of the official matches I watched had that many backflips in it.

Seriously, I think the filmmakers tried to substitute football/rugby - possibly thinking that american football would be too rough for a girl (this invalidating the whole premise of the movie) but didn't really look up the rules.

That being said, it didn't limit my enjoyment. This movie is fun.

Regards,

TCC

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[–] zel_lazarevich 9 years ago

The penalty is fine as portrayed, perhaps you're thinking of penalty shootouts? In those the ball is out of play once the goal is scored or the keeper stops the ball.

Here's a real life example of a penalty that is very similar to the one in the movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD3eiZyQ-Kk

Cheers,

Z

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[–] johnston.scot 7 years ago

First note: it's spelled soccer.

Why soccer?

Because it's a sport widely played by both women's and men's teams.

It couldn't have been football (American football, I mean), because women's football teams are incredibly rare. It wouldn't make sense for the character to be on a women's football team at her school, and then have the team be disbanded.* Also, the notion of a woman of ordinary size playing football competitively might, in some sense, be consistent with the premise, but in another it would stretch it so far beyond believability it wouldn't fly even in a lightweight romcom.

Similarly, it couldn't be - say - field hockey, for the opposite reason.

There are other sports that could've worked to an extent: basketball (though you get size issues there as well), lacrosse (rule differences complicate things, and it's much less well-known than soccer in most of the country), ice hockey (eh). Baseball/softball would be an vaguely sensible alternative, but soccer works better.
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*Okay, it didn't make sense for her soccer team to be disbanded either, but at least it's closer to reality.

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[–] IMDB_Vits 7 years ago

When the coach said that he didn't about having a girl in the team, he torn the manual and VIOLA was allowed to play. That couldn't happen in an worldwide championship, but it seems like none of the characters cared about following the rules closely. Probably since it was a high school match.

Why soccer? As was discussed in another thread, this movie is set in America ("London, England" is a big deal) and from what I remember, "handegg" is more popular there. The idea of schools having soccer teams, socker being a big deal and even talent scouts watching just puzzles me.

1) The reason why VIOLA was right about her being capable of playing with and against guys is that soccer is mostly about speed. Football is about that as well as body strenght. I don't mean to sound sexist, but VIOLA wasn't strong enough to tackle any of them.
2) I don't know about talent scouts but, while less popular than football, soccer is still popular in the U.S. Plenty of schools have teams.

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[–] redhook4u 7 years ago

TCC.....not flaming you, honest.
But dude, you really gotta get some help!

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