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Global warming movie in an election year, should of scene it coming


If you think that this movie is going to be anything like "The Thing" you have another thing coming. Propaganda. No horror/scary moments. I tried hard to let it scare me thinking seclusion, death, weird circumstances. Didn't help. Especially not after the bed wetting scene. It is just to make you think we are causing global warming and we are all going to die. I wish they put that on the box before I spent $20 on it because I like Ron Perlman. And were those vapor created evil moose ghosts that I saw?

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You should've "scene" it coming.

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should a scene it coming or should a scene not coming, that is the question.

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HOW EMBARRASSING OMFG

"You clumsy silverback watch my *beep* legs!"

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Cruel that time has QUICKLY proven the entire movie to be a wild fantasy with a ridiculous ending. You might as well believe in Vampires as believe the premise of Last Winter.

I imagine they were slapping themselves on the back the day it was released but, now with the COOLING trend, I think they must feel like the people that loved Stalin until he invaded Poland in alliance with Hitler.

Embarrassed at a minimum.

Too bad it wasted the time and talent of several really good actors with what is silly Grade C scripting.

Its a great lesson to keep your skepticism plugged in.

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The sad part is the large numbers of people who still seem convinced that global warming is real and that we are causing it.

NASA's own latest data shows a decrease in global temperatures, and they admit that their numbers are skewed upwards due to flawed temperature readings. If anyone wants to find out more about how the data is bad, see surfacestations.org.

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Look at www.realclimate.org if you want to know what's actually going on.

And no, "NASA's own latest data" doesn't show a decrease in global temperatures.

There's a lot of disinformation out there, funded primarily by oil billionaires who figure disinformation is cheaper than changing the way they do business.

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Why do you guys always say that, "there's a lot of disinformation out there, funded primarily by oil billionaires" when the vast majority of what I've seen comes from scientists, climatologists, meteorologists, and little guys like me who just simply gather the information to discredit the AGW crowd?

NASA's own MSU (satellite) data DOES in fact show cooling, but here's a link to get you started: http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/noaas_hot_streak_continues_despite_clear_cooling1/

NASA's GISS data, obtained from ground sensors which are often placed too close to infiltrating heat sources and which are painted with heat-absorbing latex paint, DO show an increase in temperatures. To find out more about why this data is wrong, go here: surfacestations.org

So which data set does the IPCC use? The GISS data, of course. *rolls eyes*

Why do I spend my time collecting data to discredit AGW when no one is paying me? That's like asking me why I vote, why I help my kid with his homework, or why I mow the lawn. Because I CARE, that's why. The Global Warming hype is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated upon humanity, and I want everyone to know it. To know it, they need facts. Unfortunately, there's an enormous amount of information out there and it takes a lot of work and commitment to dig through it all to get to the bottom of the AGW story. But hey, seeing falsehoods repeated over and over fires me up to spread the truth... it's just what I do.

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Hi, actual scientist here (by training anyway: I have a degree in physics, with as much real-life scientific experience that entails), no political affiliation that predisposes me on this particular issue aside from my basic interest in learning the facts and using empiricism as a tool for determining truth, coupled with a scientist's willingness to believe what the evidence says even if it means changing his formerly most deeply held beliefs. So:

That above comment should win some sort of award for the combination of pomposity and fraudulence. Wow. Totally trying to give an ignorant, misinformed political (not scientific) opinion the weight of scientific truth. It's laughable, you're stating things that are factually untrue, things that even the most truth-averse anti-AGW ideologue lunatic doesn't deny anymore. If you've done even the least bit of anything remotely resembling research, you must have the most powerful case of confirmation bias in the history of science. I mean, you claim to have done all this "research", yet you arrived at the opposite conclusion to a universally held scientific consensus among the very people you claim you consulted. You're disputing things that there is no dispute over whatsoever in your zeal to convince others that you prefer to believe a fiction.

This issue is already settled. There's no controversy over it, except among crackpots, ideologues with a vested interest in spreading misinformation, and those foolish enough to believe the first two.

It's absurd that you try this hard to sound authoritative, as you avoid a reality that most of the people reading your comment are already going to be familiar with. We already know your claims are BS, we've already heard every bit of this nonsense debunked at this point, why dig yourself deeper by trying to sound officious about it? Research? Please, you might be fooling yourself but you're not fooling anyone else. That whole thing where they passed off misinformed Fox News-believing weathermen and sports coaches as "climate scientists" was debunked long ago, the scientific consensus among actual working climate scientists who've published peer-reviewed papers is well established to be unanimous. There is no dispute, except from crackpots, private interests vested in hiding the truth, and those who believe the first two. There is not an industrialized country in the world where the truth about this isn't already widely accepted, except for, imagine that, the ones where Rupert Murdoch has powerful media organizations. Is he a "climate scientist"?

And, hey, say what you want... I know those who propound falsehood will always continue to behave, inexplicably, like if they lie enough, it will become truth. More nonsense won't change anything, however officious in tone. History has already shown your claims to be tripe, based not at all in science but in mere political agitprop. No matter what, that's only going to continue. So protest if you want. It doesn't matter. And nothing you can say will convince me that truth is false or lies are truth, so it'll just be a wasted effort.

Only reason I bothered to reply, myself, is to let you know, just as a helpful tip, that you look pretty foolish. Just so you know,, You can consider it a courtesy.

Ridiculous. Just absolutely ridiculous.

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Real climate dot org? Seriously? Nah, I'll just walk up to Al Gore, plant my lips on his butt-cheeks, and hear the same lies.

~Says the boss.

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Ah yes, the classic "but Al Gore is fat" argument.

Sciency!

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It amazes me that so many Americans have this unfounded belief that "...oil billionaires who figure disinformation is cheaper than changing the way they do business." But they say nothing about the billionaire Arab sheikhs,dictators that hate us,and unstable third-world countries where we are still dependent for much of our oil. We should throw out all the unscientific eco scares and start drilling right here. We have plenty. Tell the rest who don't want to get along to shove their oil. And we need our oil companies here, providing us with our oil in the competitive free market which we need to get back to. Too many federal restraints, OSHA, EPA, etc. Their functions could be handled more efficiently at state and local levels.

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It's a MOVIE! Get over it! I suppose we could pass a law or something that can give the Republican party veto rights on all film scripts. If you want to pretend scientists are conducting some worldwide brainwashing campaign because they are just SO WELL payed by the universities and NASA go to Fox News. I'm sure you will find plenty of people with there heads in the sand that you can talk too.

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"I think they must feel like the people that loved Stalin until he invaded Poland in alliance with Hitler."

You believe in vampires, tmcdaniel1?

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Holdout global warming doubters: Just what planet do you live on? Planet Know-Nothing? Would you place bets on feeling just as skeptical in three decades or so? Or does scientific evidence and steady, hitherto exceptional climactic change mean nothing to you cuz it's philosophically or politically inconvenient?

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You're a douche. Climate change is happening, it's not caused by man. Are we really that arrogant? It ids going to happen no matter what we do. It has happened for millions and millions of years and will keep on happening for as long as the sun lasts. AGW is a revenue scheme. Anyone who doesn't see that are either thought blind or brainwashed.

I'm burning tires everyday to speed it up. The planet will wipe us off like a virus and balance will be restored. For mother Gaia!!

I run around in circles, it is my metaphor

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Holdout global warming doubters: Just what planet do you live on? Planet Know-Nothing? Would you place bets on feeling just as skeptical in three decades or so? Or does scientific evidence and steady, hitherto exceptional climactic change mean nothing to you cuz it's philosophically or politically inconvenient?

I could just as easily ask you - why are you so politically or philosophically invested in anthropogenic global warming?


“There is NO such thing as a free lunch.” - Milton Friedman

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Global Warming is caused by Hell getting hotter burning with the souls of liberals and followers of Art Bell

I run around in circles, it is my metaphor

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By the way, this movie was made in 2006. It just didn't get released until many months later for lack of immediate distribution deals. So the notion of its being designed as an election-year tool is just paranoia. Conservative paranoia. Not liberal paranoia, as global warming is supposed to be according to you head-in-sand ostriches.

Re: a prior poster: "Cooling trend"?!? Hilarious. How many long-term statistics can you ignore? That's like saying "Well this season my area didn't have thunderstorms. Ergo I'm sure we'll never have them again!"

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And the contraction of "should have" is "should'VE" not "should OF"!

-> http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/couldof.html



Reality continues to ruin my life. ~ Calvin

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It's also "should have" or "should've", not "should of".



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The stupidest thing about the title thread is not

a) the "should of"
b) the "scene it coming"

but

c) "Global warming movie"

This film has absolutely nothing to do with global warming!!!

The film is about people suffering hallucinations and going crazy because poisonous gases trapped in the permafrost have been released by the oil drilling.

Did you even watch this movie?


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Yes, we all watched the movie, and that was just 1 theory proposed by Le Gros' character. They didn't definitely say, yes they're tripping from gasses. But he did say at one point or another that it could be any number of things that he just doesn't understand. Also, this movie has A LOT to do with AGW. That's why Ron Perlman's character keeps repeating thing like, "Oh don't give me that Global Warming BS."

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Wow, was 2006 an election year on your planet?

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