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Well thought out P.O.S.


Liberals at their best.

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I hate documentaries with absolutely fabricated footage, as has been shown. Even the director admits on his website that some of the footage may not be what it says it is.

Save your money and buy something that isn't the product of someone playing with Maya 6.0. Or if you must buy it, realize you've been had. Donate your money instead to Vets for Peace, at least that way you know it's not going to be spent on lies, misappropriated or stolen.

Shinypate the lesser

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Not saying you're wrong but can you point out what was edited and where it says that on Kleif's webpage.

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"Everybody be cool... you be cool" George Clooney as Seth Gecko in From Dusk Till Dawn

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are u kidding im a viedo editor and familiar with Maya and all....no qualifications but im a pro.

neways on their documentary they tell u where they get all this footage, i did purchase 'amrica remembers video' and as i anaylsed it shot by shot, i could not find any footage on the documentary that was not on the dvd. (realesed by fox).

so my message is......U havnt seen the film, ur lieing and ur hoping to fool people because u know the truth and the truth means ur ass is on the line.




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get rid of the tyrans(bush's guys), elect a seethrough goverment

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I hate documentaries with absolutely fabricated footage, as has been shown.

Yeah, fabricated, that's it. Funny thing the CNN tape that I had recording on that day shows the exact same thing...

So was the Maya work done beforehand?

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CIA=Wall St=GOD (Gold, Oil and Drugs)

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And that is the standard go-to response from conservatives. It's bullet proof.

"Either you'r with us or you're with the terrorists."

God help us all.

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"And that is the standard go-to response from conservatives. It's bullet proof.

"Either you'r with us or you're with the terrorists."

God help us all."


Fat Slim is a moron. He thinks there are "authorized" versions of films from 1910. Check out the Frankenstein (1910) thread if you want to get an even better idea how of how stupid he is! (But I'm sure you have a clear idea now.) "you'r"??? That's you're you imbecile!

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yeah but "Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists." this statement is not democratic you dont force people to think like us but isnt that what we did in Iraq? didnt we force democracy on iraq?

and stop calling people morons!!!

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yeah, moron

Sincerely,
c-huddleston

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I'm not liberal, or conservative, or a democrat or a republican.
I'm just an american who wants to raise his two kids with his wife in relative peace and happiness.


I saw this film on a lark.
I don't know about the towers, pods, and the like.
Maybe, maybe not.

But, where's the plane wreckage around the pentagon?
That really got to me.
Made me go hmmm.
Not 1 bit can be seen.
I looked at other sites, video footage, newspaper articles.
nada
nix
nothing.

If someone can explain that little thing, I can put my apathetic head back in the sand and continue in my oblivious blissful life.

Otherwise - I have an obligation as an American - not liberal, conservative, republican, democrat - an AMERICAN - to kick someone's ass.

Quit the divisive bickering - you guys can fight over whatever after the threat is handled.
I'll gladly put my head back in the sand.

But first - where is that wreckage?

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That's funny you should ask that. "Where's the wreckage."

Cause they're asking the exact same thing ... http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm


I'm not saying that this movie is correct, but I'm not saying that what they're saying is just a bunch of BS made up to make up conspiracies or whatever you want to think. What I do believe though is this. There is a very good argument both ways. In both ways people are holding their arguments so strongly and firmly and in all honesty I like that. I like debates, arguments, rebuttles, that sort of thing and movies like this are prime igniters of those things. I watched this with my mom who is a strong conservative Bush support (me being total opposite) just so I could argue with her about our logic. It's simple really. Who knows if this guy is right? I don't. I don't know if what this movie is saying is true or not. I don't know if planes really hit the towers or if a plane really hit the pentagon or not. That's what I'd like to believe because that's what I saw. But if this is all just a hoax, then I want to know what the hell is going on. Our government says that the American public is better off not knowing some things. But damn it this is something I really want to know. I want to know everything that happened that day. I don't want lies either way (through conspiratist or through the Bush white house or whoever) I'm tired of the lies and cover ups. I want to know what's going on. I want to know what happened. And as someone mentioned before I have the right AS AN AMERICAN to know what really happened that day. I've read websites claiming that the airplanes could have been digitally enhanced, backing it up with every form and fashion they could possibly pull out of their rear ends and it makes perfect sense for them to be right. But it also makes perfect sense for the Bush white house to be right (well... Bush being right??? maybe not) but I think you get the point of what I'm trying to say. All I can really say is I want to believe that what I saw that day, and what our government told us was what really happened. But in all honesty, where is the proof? Where's the proof that there was a plane that hit the pentagon? What about the two videos that recorded what hit the Pentagon (one at a gas station across the street) and minutes later the government shows up and takes the video from the gas station? What's up with that? I know it's true but why would they do that? It wouldn't give away the pentagon's position as someone mentioned earlier. HELLO IT'S A GIANT *beep* BUILDING SHAPED LIKE HOME PLATE FOR GOD'S SAKE IT'S EASILY SPOTTABLE! I will never be satisfied with what happened that day (don't take that as it sounds) until I know what truly happened. Like I said, I really don't know what happened but I believe I HAVE THE RIGHT TO

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HERE, HERE!

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Can't really top Mr. Governator there, cause he's saying what everybody is thinking and wishing...Democrat and republican alike. But I will say this, I am not a Republican or a Democrat, but it is completely sickening how republicans can ignore facts...not to say that this movie was all fact, because I honestly don't know, but I agree with someone who said it earlier, I have tapes also of news broadcasts from CNN(Democrat) and Fox (SEVERELY Republican) and they all show the EXACT SAME FOOTAGE as 9-11 In Plane sight. I was skeptical at first, but the tapes have not changed since 9-11.

Okay so here’s the sickening part…Republicans will say anything to back up this idiot they elected…and what does Bush have to gain from 9-11? Let’s see: He and his Gestapo now have the ability to spy on whomever they want (business foes, Democrats, Non-Bush supporters and the like) without question because of the “Patriot” act; he got to start his war against dad’s enemy, yet he still hasn’t even found Bin Laden the man supposedly responsible for 9-11…ARE YOU *beep* SERIOUS, THE GUY DRIVES A 1987 CAMEL!!! Not to mention the fact that he’s making millions and millions of dollars due to the increased cost of oil…Along with his boys in Saudi Arabia (which takes us back to Bin Laden…see my theory is he’s in Crawford chillin’ in the hot tub). Bush doesn’t care one bit about the American people (see Hurricane Katrina). The man only cares about money and his family, the Clan, the inner circle, the “Upper Crust” “His” people as he says who are in the top 2% of monetary value in the world.

In any case, back to my comment. Not one republican I’ve talked to who bashes 9-11 In Plane Site or Fahrenheit 9-11 has seen either movie…What The *beep* Are you serious!! Most of these people only voted for him because he is “So Christian” and their Pastors or whatever said they should…Ignorant hicks! Anyway I’m Christian too, but I’m also educated, and saw right through the lies when my own pastor said we should vote Bush…needless to say I don’t go to that church anymore!

Question, if Bush was such a Christian, why would he just sit there and have parties with his “upper crust people” while thousands of American people were Literally starving to death in New Orleans after…keyword…AFTER Katrina hit! And finally…FINALLY…republicans don’t have some sorry excuse to pull out of their A** to explain this one away! HOW THE *beep* DOES THIS HAPPEN IN A MAJOR AMERICAN CITY, I’ll tell you how, there are two major reasons #1) The poor African-American people don’t have cars and therefore don’t buy gas, and #2) They don’t vote Republican! That’s the answer.

And one more point: Bush can’t even eat a pretzel without getting a black eye (remember that one hehehe), and to imagine, at the time I thought that was going to be the most embarrassing thing I would have to experience as an American during his term…boy was I wrong! This is by far one of the darkest times in American History. I am literally sad. Clinton was able to play the Sax on Leno, get a BLOW*** in the oval office, and deal with a wife with bigger balls than him (you may know her as future president Hillary Clinton). Yet he has still done more for the people of New Orleans! Even Gore is getting evacuees out of N’awlins on his private leer jets.

But again, maybe 1 out of 10 Republicans has seen either movie, yet they ALL bash the s*** out of these films. Why you ask? Because they fear the truth. I even talked to a republican “friend” who said that if Hillary got elected, she would move to Canada…GOOD, NOW IF ONLY EVERY REPUBLICAN DID THE SAME, WE WOULDN’T EVER HAVE THE *beep* WE’VE GOT NOW AGAIN! Hell we may even accomplish something, like oh I don’t know pulling the *beep* out of the middle east (since all those *beep* hate us anyway) and setting up Hydrogen power to take our reliance off these mentally instable people…but that’s difficult when the man in charge makes money off of this reliance of middle-eastern oil.

Oh and for Tim Moody (UprTupr), Go *beep* yourself dude, you don’t know S***, oh and you know all about windows on a plane because you’re a pilot, and I’m a *beep* leprechaun…I swear everybody on these posts is a millionaire or a special operative or some other bulls***! See pilots actually work for a living! All of your “POINTS” are trite anyway, because as I said, and others have said, the videos from this movie and CNN and FOX are the same! So *beep* you, you little 18-year old republican S*** in his grandmothers robe, after having just finished whacking’ it to a pic of Barbara Striesand’s head superposed onto a fat porn star’s body.


FIN

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Amen to that. Agree 100%

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Well Said thelbsc.

I'm from the uk and i came across 'In Plane Site' about 9 months ago, since then i've been downloading 911 related material, i have about 100 videos maybe you'll be interested in them, if you have broadband you can get more information on winamp pro, go to your media library and look for 'Truth' or the 'Freedom' channels, that's the 'Phaylon network'. Or you can download them using 'Limewire' shareware. Anyway here's just a few you might like to watch:-
'Loose Change'.
'Great Conspiracy of 911' Barry Zwicker.
'Martial Law' Alex Jones.
'Matrix of Evil' Alex Jones.
'Road To Tyranny' Alex Jones.
'911 commission Omission' Dr R.Griffin.
'The Corporation'.
'Secret of the Matrix' David Icke.
'Outfoxed'.
'The Truth & Lies of 911' Mike Ruppert.
'Greatest Lie Ever Sold' Anthony J.Hilder.
'American Dictators' Alex Jones.
'Orwell Rolls in his Grave'.
'911 Commission Report' Eric Hufschmid.
'Great Illusion of 911' George Humphrey.
'Painful Questions' Eric Hufschmid.
'Al Gore' (on the George Bush Power Grab)C-Span.
The brilliant Noam Chomsky and many many more.


Good Viewing and pass the message on.

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Yeah, they're all brilliant works of fiction

Sincerely,
c-huddleston

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Yeah, they're all brilliant works of fiction

This is a really well thought out answer.
NOT!
Now go back to your "happy" life and accept everything the government tells you as the truth.

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Well Said Sir, you've hit the nail on the head, where just normal people who want the truth, as Dave Vonkliest said "This is not about left or right, this is about right or wrong"

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PHENOMENAL POST AND COMMENTS!
Your words capture so much more than I can say and it captures it in fewer words and does it effectively.

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where is that wreckage?
...I have an obligation as an American - not liberal, conservative, republican, democrat - an AMERICAN - to kick someone's ass.

Maybe not. As I've said in some other threads here, there could be good reasons to lie about that part. Just to be clear, I will give the following example but need to be clear this is not my personal theory as to what actually happened, simply a possible explanation for why they lied about the pentagon part:

For example, perhaps that particular plane was shot down over water by a trigger-happy pilot, or a by a Colonel/General going beyond the scope of his command while Bush was reading that school book to children (not a dig on Bush, just saying there were those who had to react in real time to the threat). Once word of the downing action reaches Cheney or another grown-up (okay, that one is a dig on Bush) it is decided that shooting down a passenger plane will do too much PR damage to the AF/Military, Executive branch, et cetera and that it would be bad for the country when they need to pull together. So, needing an explanation as to where that plane went, they clear out a small part of the pentagon that is already under renovation and hit it with a small-yield missile. The rest is easy. It's a white lie and people will believe it because it's such a big lie and because they desperately want to.

So, as to your where's wreckage question, maybe something like the above. That, or the immutable laws of physics were temporarily suspended a short time on that particular day (there is no "wreckage" so it's time to move forward from that point).

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So where did they find people who were into allowing Bush to make so much money that they gave thier own lifes to fly a plane into the WTC. Those were planes right? Of course I am sure someone will tell me they are missels soon. Second. Everyone "pro" this theory tells us how "stupid" Bush is. I mean he cannot even eat a pretzel. But some how magicly he pulled off this huge coverup. Not buying it. We didn't go to the moon either! If a president cannot cover up someone going down on him, I don't buy this. I wait that was a made up lie as well. Have you never seen the documentary on Discovery where the plane crashes into the concrete where they are testing nuclear reactor hardness to plane crashes. There was NOTHING LEFT but the wings that were OUTSIDE the area of the concrete wall!

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I assume that you havn't watched many 911 films apart from 'In Plane Site'.
'Loose Change' 2nd Edition is available or go to my earlier threads on these boards.

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What are you not buying? You have already been sold the lies.

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Do you know what a Manchurian Candidate is?

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Well, I don't believe a moron either.

It's not just Bush. It's a combination of people.

Also, the planes disappeared. Almost nothing was left. The wings aren't showing anywhere. Just a tiny bit of debris.

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There was NOTHING LEFT but the wings that were OUTSIDE the area of the concrete wall!


and 2 engines that don't belong to the plane that crashed?????

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Close-mindedness at its best.


...We fight because we must...

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"Liberals at their best."

So you counter the closed-minded reasoning of this documentary with some of your very own? I'm liberal leanding, and I thought this was absolute rubbish because of the content, not because of my political views.

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Calling this "film" or whatever it is supposed to be, a POS, is an insult to feces.

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What a piece of garbage! And an insult to all those families who lost loved ones on 9/11!

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