First film to use real dead bodies...??? - Unrest (2007) Discussion

[–] craig-dixon 17 years ago

I haven't seen the trailer, but there's been a few films that have used real cadavers during filming. Men Behind The Sun and (so I've heard) The Hunchback of the Rue Morgue are two that come to mind, but I'm sure there's been others.

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[–] septimus_phoenix 17 years ago

faces of death apparently has real bodies...guess u can donate ur body to anything nowadays..'let's be famous corpses'...wouldn't be fun to bring to the premiers though

i wanna see what your inside look like
i bet your not f@*$en pretty on the inside

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[–] Fat_tone420 17 years ago

faces of death may have actual autopsy footage but the rest of it is fake or staged... i read an interview with the director and he admitted that it was fake. like some the tapes they'd get were incomplete so they would make the rest of it... but i've seen traces of death and supposedly that's all real... it's pretty f'd up stuff... fun to watch when you're wasted with your friends! :]

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[–] theyarealltaken 17 years ago

sicko

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[–] IBiteBack2222 17 years ago

Dude, nothing's sick when you're drunk! I mean, Liza Minelli would be lookin' pretty bangable after a few shots, even.

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[–] bubbleup00 17 years ago

Liza Minelli? I really hope you're drinking EverClear. ;)

I would seriously rather see the bodies.

Maybe I am a sicko.

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[–] mallorygold 17 years ago

perhaps back in the day she would be. she was super hot in cabaret

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[–] sera-19 17 years ago

faces of dead have real bodies because its a collection of real videos.

i doubt that they used real bodies as they would have to get permission from the families.

but whos to say you cant get your 15 minutes of fame once you are gone.

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[–] ElectronPath 17 years ago

if that's true then that's gross. is that moral to use real dead bodies? i don't beleive it, it's probably a PR stunt, don't u think?

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[–] handscandy 17 years ago

I don't think morality has anything to do with it. If the trailer is correct, then obviously the person(s) who died would have given the filmmakers permission to use their bodies, so what's the problem.

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[–] cdebender 17 years ago

Do you mean you can donate your body to Hollywood when you die?!

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[–] handscandy 17 years ago

Not sure. I don't see why you couldn't.

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[–] smerd_70 17 years ago

"Do you mean you can donate your body to Hollywood when you die?!"

Heh, there's a joke here somewhere.

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[–] Bcheakypopop 17 years ago

if you think this is the first then your a dumbass. What about the autopsy from Men behind the sun

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[–] joyinbraveheart 17 years ago

There is a film called Murder of the Rue Morgue and Huntchback of Notre Dame. Which film are you speaking of?

I heard they used real cadavers.

What if it was real, thank God it isnt CGI.

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[–] craig-dixon 17 years ago

There is a film called Murder of the Rue Morgue and Huntchback of Notre Dame. Which film are you speaking of?

It's a Paul Naschy film called El Jorobado de la Morgue (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068772). One of its aka titles is the "Hunchback of the Rue Morgue".

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[–] truynkeesfn 17 years ago

dead bodies indeed. im gonna jump all over this movie. yipee

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[–] duncan_2000x 17 years ago

maybe they mean live actors playing the corpses?

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[–] Icedontgo 17 years ago

Yeah this seems pretty sick if true.

You can read on the trivia pages for Poltergeist 1 and 2 that some of the skeletons in those films were real. And the actors were not happy about that.

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[–] neogamer 17 years ago

it's sad how no one has really replied to the question...

What's sadder is that I don't have the answer...

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[–] phkasenetz 17 years ago

From the stills, it appeasrs as though the cadavers the students use are "fresh" - i.e., they have not been embalmed nor prepped for gross anatomy. That would NEVER happen in medical school. As someone who has gone through gross anatomy, I can tell you that "true" cadavers are completely embalmed, so there is no blood, except for some clots in the veins/arteries. At some schools, students are required to shave their own cadavers, but at my school, our cadavers were completely free of hair. Additionally, the cadavers are OLD. Literally. Our cadavers had been dead for two years before we cut into them. My point is that if the movie is using real cadavers, then the bodies will almost LOOK fake. If the bodies are hairy and bloody and oozing, then most likely, they ARE fake. I'm guessing that the "real" cadavers may just be "background" cadavers or cadavers that the students aren't actually cutting into. In my opinion, it would be LESS dramatic to use real cadavers than to create a Hollywood version of one.

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[–] Nan00k 17 years ago

phkasenetz, did they keep your cadavers in a giant aquarium, floating around like pickles, from which they were fished out using a giant Bo-Peep crook?

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[–] quingeorge 17 years ago

hehe Who wants to be a doctor now?

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[–] phkasenetz 17 years ago

Haha. Still haven't seen the movie, but... wait, are you serious? Was that really in the movie?!

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[–] Nan00k 9 years ago

Yep. Sorry for the wait. ---It wants no straps. - Karlhttp://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000024/nest/158601447

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[–] kcwells 17 years ago

all i can add is that the film's website, http://www.unrestfulmovie.com/Unrest_Facts.html, claims that it is filmed entirely in a real hospital morgue, but doesn't say anything about the bodies being real.

but it's written all over their posters.

http://www.horrorfestonline.com/images/film1_lg.jpg, for example

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[–] arawn2000 17 years ago

I was at the horrorfest showing in Chicago and the director said that real bodies and bodyparts were used for certain scenes.

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[–] msvixie 17 years ago

That makes sense.. but people lets be realistic.. do you Really think Corrie English went ahead and cut into a REAL dead body? I'm guessing no.. I'm also guessing, if she was asked to do this in a low budget film, she would have said no.

In conclusion... somewhere in the movie there probably were dead bodies... but I HIGHLY doubt any of the ones the actors touched were real.

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[–] benajacks 17 years ago

If I was an actor I wouldn't want to be anywhere near dead bodies!

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[–] TacoBunny2 17 years ago

i think nekromantik was the first to use real dead bodies.

not sure tho.

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[–] Mdgeist316 17 years ago

Men Behind the Sun was the first to use cadavers, and show them being opened up. Even children.

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[–] richard-foshee 17 years ago

Cannibal Holocaust (and many other 70s gore flicks) used real bodies. It was cheaper than making fake ones. It was a common practice in Italian and South American cinema.

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[–] MechanicalWhispers 17 years ago

Nekromantik did NOT use real bodies. Yes, it was a low budget film and the people who made it got VERY creative with what they had. The decaying body was a life cast of a friend, filled with gelatin, pigs blood, and various animals' organs. That's how they got it to decay. But it didn't actually decay like a real body would. It just happened to look cool on it's own. The skeleton was also a fabricated prop. There's a documentary out that you can probably find on E-Bay if you want to see the whole process.

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[–] duncan_2000x 17 years ago

I just saw the movie. When they opened the chest cavity, it looked very much like a Real body (I've seen real autopsy's as a reference)

However, the head looked fake, and when Corri english Cuts into the body, that looked fake, but then they cut to the Real corpse.

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[–] xcal321 17 years ago

Dead bodies are nothing. Don't get so 'worked' up. Why don't you make like the rest of us and desensitize yourself? When you chance upon a bleeding person in the street, the shock and horror hesitation is gone, and you can actually help them.

True story, I used to go to www.rotten.com and subject myself to new horrors and fiendish images. 2 years ago in Little Italy, Toronto, Canada, there was a shooting and everyone around me stared at the blood leaking out into the rainy streets. I ran up and used the guy's bag to put pressure, but the wounds were too severe.

I gave that person final human touch, and kept eye contact while he finished his business and went on. I'm proud to say I didn't hesitate.
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[–] Icedontgo 17 years ago

I known people who are training to become doctors going to rotten.com just to see as much disgusting gore as they can, to lessen the impact when they truly have to deal with something bad.

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[–] filmfanatic1990 17 years ago

The original Texas Chainsaw Massacre used real corpses......so no it isnt.....its just a marketing gimic. The autopsy scene was probably the only "gory" thing in the movie.

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[–] actionjackson009 17 years ago

Actually it is illegal to buy bodies in the US. I am currently in medical school and just took anatomy and we definitely DO NOT use homeless people or random people. That is completely unethical. The people's bodies are donated as indicated in their wills. We also have a copy of their death certificate indicated mode of death.

It is not easy to find a dead body. I highly doubt an Art teacher would use a corpse for Figure Drawing, unless he worked for Netter's (the people who draw that stuff for a living).

So in short, yes you donate your body and are NOT on sale. It costs a lot to prep the bodies, a whole lot more than 400.

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[–] mek0626 17 years ago

Thank you! I don't think that person really knew what he/she was talking about. In my anatomy class, the cadaver we worked with was an old man who died in a nursing home. The nurses there can suggest to the patients that they can offer their bodies for scientific purposes, but the decision must be completely their own. You can't just buy some random body off the street like that person was talking about, there are legal papers you must sign in order to donate your body to science, and it must be voluntary.

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[–] MechanicalWhispers 17 years ago

I think that person was talking about John and Jane Does who die without any perceivable connection to a living relative. But I would imagine that "any person" couldn't purchase a cadaver. First off, you would need a medical license. Secondly, you would need a facility to keep it for a period of time. The rules are much stricter here in the US, I'm sure.

I doubt anyone on the film is going to come forward and give an accurate answer to the original question. The fact that the line "first film to use actual dead bodies" has been plastered everywhere means they stand a lot to lose if someone discovers that an actual finger was in the corner of a shot for 5 seconds. It's probably more like some cadavers were in the background, as previously suggested. I viewed a cadaver at a hospital that was being used for medical students and was also an old woman. Most people who donate their bodies to science are old. In addition, if a younger person donates their body to science, and then dies an unnatural death, it's less likely they can be used. Most cadavers are used to teach medical students about natural diseases and causes of death. Someone with a crushed skull doesn't need much analysis by a student to figure out what was the cause of death.

By the way, the "Bodies" exhibit or the "Body Worlds" exhibit are quite different than normal cadavers. They have been chemically preserved by a process called Plastinization so that they will never decay. They are as hard as plastic, so it's impossible to dissect them further once the process is complete. But the purpose is to dissect them to show key features, then preserve them and put them on display for people to observe.

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[–] FaithHH02 17 years ago

You don't have to desensitize yourself to help others. Or maybe you do. Some of us have been able to be both sensitive and able to help people in need. I don't think most people need to look at pictures of death or mutilation to provide CPR and first aid in accidents. There would be a lot more people dying on the streets if that were true.

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