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So this is where Juno (2007) got it's idea


I always hate when American movies take movie ideas from other countries and don't give any recognition to the original, because Jeni, Juno (2005) seems to lend a lot to a movie I see out by the name of Juno (2007). I hope I'm wrong, and they have mentioned this kooky Korean movie as an inspiration.

Juno will obviously put more of a western mentality to the whole 'teen pregnancy thing' (ostracism, guilt), but honestly, they should give Jeni, Juno some props for inspiring their movie. I'm glad I've seen this one before I see Juno. I was all hyped to see Juno, but now it's more so I can compare it with this movie.

Juno seems to be adding an adoption scenario to it. That should be interesting. When I watch it, I’ll come back and add a little something to my comment.

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I think the general idea probably come from "Jeni, Juno": Teen Pregnancy. I thought the same thing when I first read the synopsis of "Juno". However, I don't think the storyline would be similar, because the cultural differences would make "Juno" too awkward.

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"uno will obviously put more of a western mentality to the whole 'teen pregnancy thing' (ostracism, guilt), "


Think before you say stuff like that. You do realize that any teen that is pregnant in any part of the world sometimes goes thru ostracism and guilt, especially in strict korean families. Wow I didn't realize things like that were a "western" thing.

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Oh shut the hell up. Have you seen a lot of foreign films? It's not just Hollywood. After the Matrix came out, every Asian country has tried to make their own Matrix film. Charlie's Angels is another idea that a lot of countries have tried to copy off. And there plenty more ideas out there that people have tried doing their own movie based off of. People need to shut up about Hollywood "ruining" their films. The only parts in either films that are similar are the teen pregnancy idea and that isn't something new, genius. The characters in either film deal with the situation and with life in general much differently anyway.

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Umm the Matrix was obviously very asian-influenced

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yup... matrix was a lot like those kung fu chinese flicks i've seen. but of course, the idea was original. i'll tell you one good flick that was based on an asian movie... the departed

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The matrix stole a lot from Ghost in the Shell.

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matrix was a lot like ghost in the shell, a JAPANESE anime. The creators acknowledge this.

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and ghost in the shell introduces the concepts of transhumanism and posthumanism which are futurist themes, read up on some ray kurzweil or read the original manga for ghost in the shell, or ghost in the shell 2: man machine interface


both matrix and gits are based off of futurist theories and other things that revolve around AI and Neuro based networking..


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Well actually, the director of Juno never even heard of this movie until somebody else had pointed out to her way after they finished filming.

So yeah, don't jump to conclusions till you get your facts right.

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um, the director of juno is a man....jason reitman....perhaps maybe you should get your facts right also?

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i think they were referring to the diablo cody, who wrote Juno.
There are some coincidences between the two films, but they are very different.
Jeni Juno is very much a safe, bubbly korean movie. juno does more; it goes deeper into realistic situations between relationships and that it's not easy going about things alone.

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Well actually, the director of Juno never even heard of this movie until somebody else had pointed out to her way after they finished filming.


Correction: The director of Juno SAYS she never heard of this movie before they began filming. Also, the director did not write the movie. An ex-stripper named Diablo Cody did. And she denies having ever watched this flick so fervently, it convinces me that it had to be plagiarism, the dirty hack.

Incidentally, the Matrix is a mish-mash of various Asian films that came out long before 1999 (A Better Tomorrow, Ghost in the Shell, etc.)

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yeah, she said it so it must be true. You live in a world where nobody ever lies or cheats? I want to go there some day.

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I don't know Diablo Cody, the writer of Juno, but have read many interviews with her, and my impression is that she is very transparent about her inspirations, and it is extremely unlikely that she ever heard of or saw the Korean movie. I have not seen the Korean movie, but I read the online descriptions, and the plots of these two movies are very different, with teen pregnancy and the dignity of teenagers being the only common thread.

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I don't know.
Then how did he come up with "Juno" title?

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The title of "Juno" was originally going to be "Junebug," but during filming they discovered that there was another movie out there with that title, so they changed it to "Juno", the main character's name.

Juno was the Roman goddess of childbirth (among other things), so there's your connection. The screenplay has Juno herself discussing the name's origins in mythology, so this connection was certainly known by Diablo.

Also, the screenplay for "Juno" was written in late 2004. The movie "Jeni, Juno" didn't come out even in Korea until February 2005. To suggest Diablo Cody ripped it off is to suggest that someone in Minnesota who has never once expressed the slightest interest in Asian films suddenly went out of her way to research a Korean flick that was still being filmed or edited, and copied it.

Why bother? How could she have done this? She doesn't even speak Korean.

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So people seriously believe that because Diablo doesn't speak Korean that she could never have watched or heard of a Korean movie?? And just because she lives in Minnesota that she would be cut off from the international movie scene? I live in Minnesota and I'm not disconnected, that's just offensive. She ripped it off.

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You aren't thinking things through, leex.

"Jeni, Juno" was still being made when Diablo Cody finished the script for "Juno". Certainly someone who doesn't speak Korean could surf the net and learn about a teen pregnancy movie being made across the world. The sort of person who would dig deep enough to do such a thing would only be someone who was a serious Asian cinema fangirl.

Do we have any evidence that Diablo Cody is interested in Asian movies? No, but we have plenty of evidence that she is completely indifferent to them. After all, her blog and writings in the Minneapolis City Pages are focused entirely on all things pop culture. Never, ever did she write so much as one word on the subject. She was even reviewing movies there when the big Asian horror trend was in full force, she's a major fan of horror films, and still didn't seem to care.

It gets more implausible the more you think about it. Was the script available in English back in 2004? That's highly unlikely--there would be no motivation for anyone to translate it. Furthermore, why bother to "copy" something and then broadcast it by keeping the name of a character? In fact, why bother to "copy" it at all?

Plus, we have the fact that in reality, the two movies have very little in common. "Juno" is about an adoption and "Jeni,Juno" is about a teen romance with no adoption plot.

Last of all, her former husband, who was with her when she wrote the movie, has posted in these forums that neither of them had ever heard of the movie.

Face reality--the similarities are at best superficial and nothing but a coincidence.

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"Well actually, the director of Juno never even heard of this movie until somebody else had pointed out to her way after they finished filming."

Uh huh...riiiiiight.

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Def not touche considering Juno was a really really stupid movie. You have no taste if you liked it or are just a numbskull running with the sheep.

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One person's opinion, hate the movie, but don't degrade those who loved it.

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what about the departed, bacically a remake of infernal affairs. that won best picture.... i dont know what else a movie based of a foreign movie could do to be considered fantastic.... you know what i mean?

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I think really liking the movie really depends on your life experiences in life. I really like the movie but I also lived the movie. I got knocked up and then put my baby up for adoption. I liked it because it shows what it really is like in the situation.

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QUOTE by Oddlaww: Def not touche considering Juno was a really really stupid movie. You have no taste if you liked it or are just a numbskull running with the sheep.

Oh my god! This is absolutely true because liking a movie is 100% objective and not a matter of taste and opinion! Oddlaww, you're a self centered egotist and an idiot.

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"Unbeknownst to me, we had another spiritual cousin out there, a Korean movie called "Jenny, Juno", This time, the cousinry goes one step further and the movie is about--seriously--a pregnant teenager and her cute, sweet boyfriend. (The guy character is named Juno, not the girl.) There's no adoption subplot and apparently the film is otherwise dissimilar to mine, but how *beep* up is that? I bring this up because a journalist drilled me about it recently--awkward!--and also because I saw someone on our IMDb board wondering if Juno was a remake of the K-flick. So for the record, 1.) it isn't a remake 2.) I haven't seen 'Jenny, Juno,' though I want to now, and 3.) I don't think anyone would even bat an eye about this if my film was called Jenny. The name Juno is just so darned distinctive that confusion is inevitable." - Director Jason Reitman

That clear things up?

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Personally, I think the director is lying.

If you've seen the movie, there are clear similarities, and it's just much too much to push aside as "just a coincidence".

The name and plot are the biggest giveaways, but there are little things here and there that probably inspired them to make an "American version of teenage pregnancy".

"Juno" is a pretty decent movie, however the script seemed extremely forced and unrealistic.

I loved "Jeni, Juno" for a lot of reasons, I enjoyed it more than "Juno" actually, but I felt the ending was really sudden. Otherwise I loved it. It's such a feel-good movie (except for maybe the crazy pro-life video at the beginning), and I'll probably end up watching it again sometime.

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I read the script for "Juno" in July 2005, so it's rather unlikely that Cody ripped of this film, considering that script is pretty much exactly what they ended up shooting. Besides, if you're going to adapt a movie, you keep the similarities so you can get your money's worth from the previous movie's popularity. Remakes have value added. If you're going to rip off a movie, you don't keep the title or the similarities and then deny them.

That being said, I didn't like the script two and a half years ago and I don't like the movie either. It's like distilled essence of annoying from the rinds of Napoleon Dynamite and Superbad. It sure ain't Ghost World.

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Yes because the idea of a teenager getting pregnant has never been thought of before. You people with your plagiarizism crap are getting annoying. Could you please point out some of these huge similarities because I watched both films and could not find more than 3 things alike. Just because they have a character named Juno and are about teen pregnancy doesn't mean they are the same. There are tons of movies about teen pregnancy, it's not some original idea that Jeni, Juno came up with. Besides the 2 movies are nothing alike other than teen pregnancy being the main plotline.

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^Similarities? Well lets see:

The pro-life messages that show up before both protagonist consider abortion(And the pro-life advocate is Asian. Hmm?!).

They both ride mountain bikes with read handle bars.

Jeni Juno starts off with the main character riding her bike through town on her way to school, Juno starts off with the main character walking through her neighborhood to the drug store.

Both characters eat like crazy, without morning sickness.

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Let's see. If you don't have an anti-abortion character to show up and change the character's mind, presumably the character would have an abortion and you wouldn't have a movie.

Also, the pregnant teen in "Saved!" rides a bike, so do we go ahead and accuse Jeni, Juno of plagiarism?

Every pregnancy is different - morning sickness is not like some steadfast rule.

Really, as annoying as I find Juno, I know full well it is an original work. If not - Fox Searchlight would have gotten sued by now, wouldn't they?

There are a finite number of ideas in the universe. That doesn't mean it's plagiarism.

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"^Similarities? Well lets see:

The pro-life messages that show up before both protagonist consider abortion(And the pro-life advocate is Asian. Hmm?!).

They both ride mountain bikes with read handle bars.

Jeni Juno starts off with the main character riding her bike through town on her way to school, Juno starts off with the main character walking through her neighborhood to the drug store.

Both characters eat like crazy, without morning sickness. "

Are you actually serious....i mean one of your points actually isn't a similarity. One starts with cycling the other with walking....not the same! And honestly count how many films start like that.....
Pro life advocate is asian..................................like are you serious???

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I saw Juno just a while ago and even though it was not as funny as I was hoping it would be, I still had a nice warm feeling when it was over. I happened to run accross the whole plagiarism idea in another forum and decided to check it out...after all it is nominated for an academy award. The first few minutes I was like " oh craap..." it was similar. They both start with the girls taking the tests...there is this guitar music and the main characters are being followed by the camera...still, what really made me think it was indeed a copy was the style. I thought Juno was cute since it had this way of writing things in the intro and through out the movie, how can I explain this...the letters were made funky, like they were made with colour spray, which was used in both movies. Ok. As far as the rest of the film, i think there was not much there. Nothing that I would consider a copy.The intro is all.

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That's kind of ridiculous. What if I told you the most popular bike handle bar colours was red? If there wasn't an incentive for Juno or Jeni to keep the baby (like a pro life message), they wouldn't now would they? I'll take one step further by saying that many if not all "keep the baby" movies involve something that swings the decision to keeping the baby. That's just how a storyline works.

Suffice to say, the only similarities I can see with these two movies is the fact the guy's name is Juno. I remember a while ago where people were obsessed with this name for some odd reason (not because of this movie I doubt)...Honestly, I think this is the only reason why people even took the time to connect the similarities between both movies.

Maybe I'm giving Diablo Cody too much credit here but, how asinine could a person be to name a movie the same as the one they were copying? That's like stealing someone's test and forgetting to erase their name off it.
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Maybe you are giving Diablo too much credit. But the pro life message of the movie had to come in the form of an Asian girl. I mean really, thats so blatant right there. As if she is showing sympathy for stealing the Koreans story.

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Just like how The Departed basically made the Chinese guys look like bad guys that were trying to get something from Frank Costello and his crew even though the movie was a rip off of Inferal Affairs which I actually prefer.

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If the makers of juno wanted to rip off a korean film and not give them credit for it do you not think that maybe just maybe they wouldn't have named it after the film? Just throwin that one out there!

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According to Diablo Cody, the script for Juno was written in 2004, sold in early 2005. At a press conference in 2005, Reitman said his follow up would be a movie named "Juno" and they were in negotiations with Ellen Page for the lead part. the movie was stuck in development for another year before being filmed in 2006. Everyones stories checks out and the Japanese filmaker of "Jenny, Juno" has pursued no legal action which means he also didnt think it was a ripooff.

Even if "Juno" was written after "Jenny, Juno," are you going to sit there and tell me a stripper in Minnasota got ahold of a script/information about an obscure Korean comedy?

Also, if you actually saw both movies, youd know that the 2 movies have nothin in common but a name (Juno - and this time its the girl, not the guy), the situation (teen pregnancy - not something originated in Korea in 2005), and the fact that theyre both comedies. No plot points or events are anywhere near the same.

Or, it was an elaborate plot against the Koreans. Yea, that makes sense.

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Your missing the point.

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The point that "Juno" is an original creation and the conspiracy theorists on this board are completely wrong? Was that not the point?

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That she saw the premise, liked it, and flipped the story around (to her own version) with "witty" dialogue(Diarrhea).

And out of remorse dropped little references to the original. Like the Asian girl in the begining.

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This argument is pretty thinned out, so I'm just gonna correct something someone said about the Matrix. It did not take from Ghost in the Shell, but rather from Neuromancer, whose author, William Gibson, is more or less the father of the cyberpunk Genre. Of course, then there are heavy Asian philosophies hanging in there like the aspect of destruction/rebirth.

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"heavy Asian philosophies hanging in there like the aspect of destruction/rebirth."

Sorry, but "destruction/rebirth" (more commonly referred to as death and resurrection) are hardly unique to Asian philosophy. The Matrix is a Messiah myth. Every culture in the world tells messiah myths. They are unique to none and universal to all. Greek Mythology, Roman Mythology, Judo-Christian Mythology (aka the Old and New Testaments of the Bible), etc are replete with Messiah myths (myth referring to "a basic, prototypic pattern capable of many variations and distortions" in the words of Parker Tyler).

If you want to point to Asian influence in the Matrix, try something fairly unique, like the fighting style, not something general.

As for the original thread, I have no clue if they took anything from the Korean film to make Juno. I've never seen the Korean one. It wouldn't surprise me if they did copy (really, name one film that is unique in all respects and borrows from nothing else - it doesn't exist - everything borrows from something else - if it didn't it would be so foreign to our perception we wouldn't comprehend it). It also wouldn't surprise me if they did not copy from Jeni, Juno but from some other source. I mean, how many times has Seven Samurai been ripped off? And yet people still like The Magnificent Seven, The Three Amigos, Galaxy Quest, A Bug's Life, etc.... The bottom line is, Judge The Film For What It Is! If it is a cheap rip off, dismiss it. If it is a beautiful, original (in the most general sense of the word) creation, enjoy it for that. It's a film, for Pete's sake. Of course it borrows from other sources (life experience included).

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well I also have Neuromancer, but that whole cyberpunk genre, and spefically the stuff that is mentioned in Neuromancer is considered futurist theories, like the stuff Ray Kurweil writes about.

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More like jeni, juno is a copy of a j-drama about teen pregnancy. And that j-drama was the copy of some other movie/tv show about the same topic. They all copied, but put their own unique spin on things. That korean movie is not the original.

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I have no doubt that "Juno" (USA) was inspired by "Jeni, Juno" (Korea.) There are too many similarities to pretend otherwise. It is an adaptation for certain, but likely enough was changed that the producers were not legally bound to credit "Jeni, Juno" as a source. It makes perfect sense to not credit it, as there would be costs involved. And it made perfect sense to Americanize it, changing the plot and characters as needed to make it resonate with the audience.

The only tragedy here is that the script of "Juno" may very well win Best Original Screenplay, when in fairness it should have been nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay. Or perhaps it falls into neither category, as it was obviously inspired by another source even if it did not follow it so closely as to be an adaptation.

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If Juno was so obviously copying this, why would they pick such a similar title? It's bound to attract suspicion! The name of the character (in Juno) could've been, say, Julia, and no one would be comparing it.

If they were copying it they would do everything to stop people finding out, and the first would be changing the names of the characters. If you're trying to keep a remade movie a secret you're not going to keep the character's names!

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Thank you Uma, if they were ripping the other off, there's no way they'd use the name Juno, obviously.

And where's the lawsuit? This argument has no legs if they haven't been sued.

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Just my 2 cents, but saying Juno is a copy of Jeni, Juno is like saying Bonanza is a copy of The Rifleman. They're about similar subject matters, yes, but that doesn't mean that they're copying from anything. The theme of a pregnant teenager is as universal as a widowed father, and there doesn't need to be a straight line connecting two movies or tv shows that deal with the same topic.

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