Is Cate a Nazi in the film??

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No it's more like today..

"All Muslims hate Americans for our Freedoms..."

Gosar: Please do not attempt to assuage your guilt over your nation's nazi past by attempting to equate the race issue in the US south with what happened in Germany and Europe between 1933 and 1945. Why even mention southern racism? Are you trying to say, well the nazis were OK, because blacks were treated badly inthe southern United States?

I for one am becoming very sick and tired of this current attempt by young Germans to re-write history. No one is blaming the present generation of Germans for what happened, that would be as absurd as attempting to blame all Americans alive today for what happened in th south before 1865.

However, the fact of nazism and the enormous popularity it enjoyed among ordinary German people cannot be denied. Hitler was a hero to almost all Germans, and although there were some who resisted out of conscience these were very few indeed. Most Germans were enthralled by Hitler's vision of a widespread German empire, living room and Germany's place in the sun.

Naturally, there was widespread resistance among the conquered nations of Europe, but not within Germany itself,and these increasingly frequent attempts to deny the popularity of and loyalty to nazism and Hitler of the vast majority of the German people only serves to make the rest of us more determined to maintain the truth.

You would do better to accept your past, without attempting to justify it by spurious comparisons with wrongs perpetrated by other nations.

You know how it goes: Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression and Acceptance. It is high time for the acceptance phase. Then move on!!

Hey guys - a GERMAN is writing ;o)

Most of this dialogues are stamped of prejudice.
Its the same like "Americans are stupid and not interested whats hapend in the rest of the world - because they are living in their own world - the US."

Please read some books about the time 75 years ago AND today.

and please answer me a question: How muc do you know about the GDR the "German Democratic Republik" ?! Have you ever heared about?
It was the eastern part of germany after WWII - the "communist part" of germany. Have you heard abou the STASI? about the victims of STASI - whats happend in the GDR?
Why eastern people don't made anything about a country like that - because they are all agree with the goverment? No - they just want live in peace -day by day without problems in her jobs or with the goverment.

I agree - parts of germans are Nazis - until today.
But don't you have a CluCluxClan in the US?
Whats about the indians "the americans killed"?
Whats about the slaves americans had?

Remember - WWII was an other kind of time, too. No radio (or (in germany) Nazi radio) NO Television an censored movies.
If the US just hear great news in the radio about the Irak, how powerfull the soldiers are, how successfull the war is going on - without any critic in TV, radio or Movies AND if you get really trouble with your govrment if you say anything against that - you don't have just the idea that it can be th wrong way.
I'm born in '66 - my mother 1931 - she was a child - do you really think she was a Nazi?
My Grandma puts breat and sausages in ruins of houses for the freign soldiers because she thought: If I do this here - maybe a mother in russia do same for my son.
Do you thing she was a nazi? And pray that "Jews are bad" ?!?? - come on...

It was an other time - and THANKS GOD !!! I was born 66 - when that *beep* was over.

And please don't just get your facts right, but your people too. Hitler didn't go all screwy, he was like that from the beginning. Ever heard of Mein Kampf? He was a genius leader who had immesurable power and immersurable evil within him. He is not black and white and neither is the entire Nazi phenomenom. And please, this is coming from a German Jew and German Lutheran descendant.

Everyone's arguments on this entire thread are ridiculous and incredibly narrow. Please take time to think before you postas this is a very sensitive topic.

The first "Autobahn" was build long before Hitler became "Reichskanzler".
And for that, the "Autobahn" he "build" (not actually him ;-) )was not for the people. It was build as a road for tanks and other military stuff.

And please, before you say that someone should "Research or go to School to Learn about History", please note :

"then his Head went Screwy and he had Conspiracy Theories about Jews ..."

then ? then ? Dude, do you knwo when "Mein Kampf" was written ? When he was imprisoned. LOOOOOONG before he became the dictator we all know. And that was looooong before he build the "Autobahn" and hostet the olympics (just to show the world how superior the arian race is. Thanks to Jesse Owens to prove him wrong)


But with one comment you are right. Germany -IS- the best place in the world, as far as i can say. I live here, and i've been to the US, UK, Scandinavia, most neighbour states of Germany (France, Benelux, Austria,...)
All very nice places, i luv your places too, but nothing to compare with my beloved fatherland.

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Whoah, that's a whole lot of crap you're writing. You should better keep your mouth shut on historic issues. You sound like a terrible apologetic freak, if not something worse.

Krust: I'm afraid I don't agree with your statement that just lately people have started to be a bit more honest about the support HItler reeived from the average German. In fact, judging by many of these posters, and also what I have heard personally from young Germans, they are becoming very aggressive about their past, and refusing to admit that the German nation was in any way at fault. To hear them tell it, the Germans rose up heroically to resist Hitler, while at the same time being too afraid not to agree with is views, and in any case, American had slaves and the KKK, which makes them just as bad.

I'm afraid there are very disquieting echoes in this attitude of the very same mind set which enabled the nazi phenomenon to arise in the first place. A blind refusal to admit fault, and aggressive attempts to shift blame elsewhere.

I hesitate to weigh in here, more heat than light etc, but the fact is that most Germans were more-or-less enthusiastic supporters of Hitler and the Nazis throughout the 1930's. If you actually read some of the history (Bullock, Shirer) this is pretty clear. Informed estimates suggest that had Hitler actually allowed elections in the late 30's he would have won handily.

mmmh. I wonder why. When all the opponents of the Nazis (communists, social democrats, unionists, Christian conservatives, liberals and monarchists) could campaign so easily while they were in concentration camps or had a ban on speaking.
btw: In 2002 Saddam Hussein was elected by ~100% of the people to stay in power. You see, the Iraqi weren't liberated they were robbed of their beloved leader.

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This thread really missed the point of the question until the last two posts.

As stated there, she was a german Jew who shopped in 12 jews amongst other things in order to survive.

The moral ambuigity of that is the major part of the film for the viewer.

Her defence mechanism for her remorse is that "...I SURVIVED".

Theres a lot of depth to explore in that statement. Its an ugly concept to take on face to face. But this film does it. Consider that this was a time (ww2) when so many people had to resort to huge moral compromises in order to survive. Be it jewish women prostituting themselves to Nazis, jewish men becoming informants, etc etc. Below a somewhat sanitized version of history is a multitude of personal stories from every gender, nation and creed involved in horrendous circumstances and decisions.

As for taking a moral judgement, fine. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but it should be done with absolute knowledge that to judge them for their actions and suggest they did otherwise, is to sentence them to death. That should be contemplated on a personal level before readily levying it out to others.

".....She Survived". Think about it.

Theres a great bit of dialogue about handling the hugely destructive weight of conscience that comes with this territory. Bit vague on the detail but the crux of it is

The story of the bus driver who is driving a bus rigged up to fill a chamber with exhaust fumes to poison the jewish detainees. To deal with that, he considered himself to be just driving a bus.

This film deals with difficult and sensitive human history and issues. In the case of larrysyr's post, i agree that it could of been done more evocatively. Its flawed in its subtlety. But i would not consider it to be a washed out bore fest. Its refreshing to see such a peice of work coming out of Hollywood.