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Loved it, but it made me mad.

posted 16 years ago by Aquadazy85
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Last time I was in Mexico I almost got dragged to jail because my friend peed in a public parking area behind a car. We bought the guy off with $20 US. Meanwhile, as we drove out, a man was beating a woman. No police to be found.

I live in one of the biggest cites in the US. Crime is through the roof. I'm not ignorant to the fact that body snatching, organ harvesting, sacrifice happen everywhere. It just seems the like there is more persecution here. I'm not building up our government as being something special, believe you me. But all these images and storis of law enforcement turning a blind eye to crime in impovershed areas sickens me. It may be "easier" but it in no way helps the comunities involved.

Is this a survival of the fittest type of thing? Is it a bigger, faster, stronger type of thing? Is it a follow the dollar type of thing?

I have no idea. Either way, this was great entertainment, and it brought out something in me that I'm passionate about, which is a key indicator, for me, of a good film.

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[–] GoodRed 16 years ago

Police is *beep* in Mexico. That's a fact. I live there, so I should know. All of our police officers are crooked with a few exceptions, and even then, those few don't have the power to do what's right alone.

It is a sad thing, but our Justice system has been in the crapper for almost a decade and I don't see it getting better any time soon.

Even in this story (the real-life one, mind you) the killers were never caught until AMERICAN OFFICERS intervened when a U.S kid was kidnapped. The Mexican police force did next-to-nothing when it came to aprehending the cultists.

[–] punxgurrl 15 years ago

As I said in another thread, one more reason to never go to Mexico.

[–] oantonio 15 years ago

That's why I hate this kind of movies. As if we needed more misunderstandings about our country (which is a great and beautiful one, even if you guys are led to believe otherwise).

[–] HotGayMan 15 years ago

Even the Mexicans I know don't like to go to Mexico. I don't think there's any saving that country to be seen in the near future. There's no middle class, and the poor are beyond poor. What a shame, too bad the U.S. didn't take Mexico when they took Texas, the U.S. could've made something of that place.

[–] GoodRed 15 years ago

"There's no middle class, and the poor are beyond poor/"

You are either stupid or just plain ignorant. Of course there is a middle-class in Mexico. I had never heard such a ridiculous statement in my life.

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[–] joaquinpaez 15 years ago

Read a book redneck

[–] HotGayMan 15 years ago

I know, he should really get educated about the struggle that the Mexican people have been going through. They have had such a hard time trying to build up a middle class population, it is practically non-existent. I think some progress is being made, but overall they are having a very difficult time because there is such a gap between the working class and the exceedingly rich. My friends from Mexico are trying so hard to get their families here so they can live better lives. That guy should really get his facts straight before he goes on insulting people, that's a real shame.

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[–] sandifay62 15 years ago

I don't think this movie represents all of Mexico, just specific people. The same type of people that show up all over the world; killer cultists vs. naive victims.

[–] james-mac 9 years ago

Sounds like the states in 2015. It's sad how far the country has fallen. I guess that's what happens when you send all your manufacturing jobs to places like Mexico.

[–] josian_lopez 15 years ago

Never one specific movie or story telling will represent any society 100%. Based on what Hollywood says, should we think all US citizens are rich? or shallow? or white? or ignorant? We know there are poor and unhappy people in US as anyother place in this world. Also, we know there is corruption in politics and police system. Is it general? No, it is not... but that happens in US too. We can say Mexico is a 3rd world country and suffers violence, drug dealers, corruption and poverty problems as any other 3rd world country. However, it is a country with 100 millions of people and that's a great variety of lifestyles.
In Mexico, you can find beautiful and rich places to live. There are a lot of towns with all public services, good Universities, entertainment, places to work and grow up a family. I'm pretty sure that's priceless. I have lived in Mexico and US, and I rejected my visa of working and living legally in US because I found more elements to be happy living in Mexico than US. That means, not all Mexicans want to go to US. Anyway, just want to say, we should travel a lot and see with our own eyes how people are living in other countries. If can't travel, we should read more. The "American Way of Life" is not the only way :)

[–] sandifay62 15 years ago

Exactly, josian lopez. You can't learn anything real by watching a few movies, looking at the news, and assuming the rest. People fail to realize that if you want to see how people truly live, you have to get off your butt, be brave enough to meet a lot of individuals, talk to them in their own language, and see for your self. You have to take people one by one. It's hard and time consuming, but it's the only way, really.

[–] lilylags 14 years ago

Wow, you should just get over it....

I'll be the first to say that Mexico is a beautiful country, but, yeah, as a mexican girl who's lived there her whole life, I'd also be the first to warn people to never come to Mexico, if I were from another country, I would NEVER vacation here... just as I would never vacation in other high risk places...

People may say I'm "malinchist" but the truth is I have a pretty strong resentment towards Mexico, 'cause I haven't been able to live my life to the fullest due to the insecurity levels, and I know the majority of mexicans don't have that problem, but yeah, my parents are overprotective so I don't get to do much...

Mexico is beautiful.... and 90% of the population are the nicest, warmest, most loving people you'll ever meet, but the other 10% of people are despicable, and unfortunately they rule the country, be it by actually governing, or by committing crimes.

Borders are specially risky zones, policemen there are not even pretending to work any more, and the drug lords are the rulers...

[–] shaundee 13 years ago

I'm from England and we drove from San Diego quite far into Mexico in 2004. As the poster above states 90% of people are the best you will meet (especially when they found out I was English and my friend Irish and we could speak Spanish a bit!) But there was a really weird undercurrent, and don't think I would go back - especially at this time.

Areas were controlled by crime bosses (you could tell when people crossed the road in really downtrodden areas to avoid randomly parked Ferraris) and when "anything goes" that's a worrying sign. We kept our heads down for the most part, and the fact that this movie is based on real events really came as no surprise whatsoever.

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[–] xxMans_Ruinxx 14 years ago

That stuff with crooked cops happens all the time throughout the U.S. as well. Go to Detroit, NYC, or any other big American city, and you will undoubtedly see it somewhere.

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[–] seth-shaw23 9 years ago

My dad bribed a cop in Mexico when I was growing up. Pulled him over for "reckless driving" as we were going to the airport to fly home. He threatened to keep his ID until a court trial was held. $50 USD later we were at the airport going home. Even as a kid I could tell what the cop was going for. Total extortion of the tourists. Of course that was just one guy in like 1994.