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What's That Columbus Scene!


Hi

I just started the TV ,after perhaps missing a few minutes, to see some old ship in storm passes by a giant modern ship. thats is unmistakable. The subtitle read "What do u say of that Captain Columbus?"

What does it mean? It pulls in space time concept too? to show a ship form future to Columbus?

Any one pl clarify this and what happened just b4. Thanks.

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***SPOILERS***


the Modern Era ship got sucked into Bermuda Triangle wormhole and ended up in the Columbus Era. Thats what the Bermuda Triangle caused in the series anyways- to throw people and things into alternate realities.

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Hi thanks for reply. can u please elaborate, the real life bermuda mystery has anything wid it? or was it just telly fantasy?

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Yes quite a bit of what is in the movie is based on real life events. There have been a few more ships planes and people dissapear than they cite but all in all it's pretty accurate as one might expect from Dean Devlin and Brian Singer. It may be sci-fi in the mini but the bermuda triangle is truly one of the worlds last remaining mysterys. Also if anyone is interested in knowing there is an area at the exact opposite side of the earth a less known pacific triangle in the south china sea, with an equal number of disapearances, so one should not be too quick to write off these happenings as fiction but perhaps simply more as a natural mystery we (being man) have yet to solve.Perhaps it's related to space time and maybe wormholes we simply don't understand it yet. Remember 100 yrs ago people considered going to space science fiction and 500 yrs ago people thought the earth was flat.. Just some food for thought.

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"...and 500 yrs ago people thought the earth was flat."

No, they didn't. That's a romantic lie that Washington Irving made up and for some reason has caught into the popular mind.

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Wat? 500 yrs ago? But they only find out the earth is flat in last century after the machine revolution? right? huh?

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No. As the last poster stated, that is a modern myth. It was fairly common knowledge that the earth wasn't flat long before Columbus, at least among educated people.

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Cool, didn't know about the opposite one. Maybe some kind of weirdness pole? I mean, there's a geographical north and a magnetic north... why not a weirdness north as well? ;)

I thought it was interesting to see some real-life theories in there as well, such as the bit about gas causing ships to sink, as the gas means ships lose bouyancy (sp?), which I remember seeing on a science program about the Bermuda Triangle once.

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Absolute rubbish. There is no more nor less 'missing transport' than any other equally-sized stretch of water.

Kusche's explanation
Lawrence David Kusche, a research librarian from Arizona State University and author of The Bermuda Triangle Mystery: Solved (1975)[16] has challenged this trend. Kusche's research revealed a number of inaccuracies and inconsistencies between Berlitz's accounts and statements from eyewitnesses, participants, and others involved in the initial incidents. He noted cases where pertinent information went unreported, such as the disappearance of round-the-world yachtsman Donald Crowhurst, which Berlitz had presented as a mystery, despite clear evidence to the contrary. Another example was the ore-carrier Berlitz recounted as lost without trace three days out of an Atlantic port when it had been lost three days out of a port with the same name in the Pacific Ocean. Kusche also argued that a large percentage of the incidents which have sparked the Triangle's mysterious influence actually occurred well outside it. Often his research was surprisingly simple: he would go over period newspapers and see items like weather reports that were never mentioned in the stories.

Kusche came to several conclusions:

The number of ships and aircraft reported missing in the area was not significantly greater, proportionally speaking, than in any other part of the ocean.
In an area frequented by tropical storms, the number of disappearances that did occur were, for the most part, neither disproportionate, unlikely, nor mysterious; furthermore, Berlitz and other writers would often fail to mention such storms.
The numbers themselves had been exaggerated by sloppy research. A boat listed as missing would be reported, but its eventual (if belated) return to port may not be reported.
Some disappearances had in fact, never happened. One plane crash was said to have taken place in 1937 off Daytona Beach, Florida, in front of hundreds of witnesses; a check of the local papers revealed nothing.
Kusche concluded that:

The Legend of the Bermuda Triangle is a manufactured mystery… perpetuated by writers who either purposely or unknowingly made use of misconceptions, faulty reasoning, and sensationalism. [16] §Epilogue, p. 277

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Fantastic! Thanks for your post!

It's sad when I was a kid I believed in all that stuff: UFOs, Atlantis, Dragons, the Triangle... and devoured books, magazines, movies and more about those subjects.... and now I simply nod my head on that. I even believe there is NO LIFE like Earth's on any other place in the Universe!

The clue is that: "manufactured mystery… perpetuated by writers who either purposely or unknowingly made use of misconceptions, faulty reasoning, and sensationalism."

However, I haven't burned those Charles Berlitz & Von Daniken books yet.

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Science not understood is taken for magic.

There is an explanation for the disappearances and in the future when it is explained people may be inclined to accept it. What if it is being transported to another time?
Another dimension?

The reason no one believes that is because it has never been proven. once it is proven other dimensions exist and people or objects from another time are proven to be here in our time, we will accept the theories of the BT.

But they won't be just theories anymore.

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On the flat earth point - the flat earth idea started dying out around 2,400 years ago - especially after Aristotle.

The debate in Colombus's time was more about the size of the Earth and the distance westward from Europe to Japan. Colombus was wrong, but luckily found the Caribbean where he expected to find Japan.

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I even believe there is NO LIFE like Earth's on any other place in the Universe!

This is a bit of a loaded statement. Any life that has evolved elsewhere in the universe (intelligent or otherwise) will be subjected to different conditions and influences than life that has evolved on Earth. Therefore there is a high possibility the 'there is NO LIFE like Earth's on any other place in the Universe'.


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No, almost nothing at all in this movie is based on real events. They simply use the mystery as a setting for the miniseries, don't go trying to educate someone with nonsense. That's like saying the Roswell incident is a documented fact, do you do that too or is just the Triangle that you try to mislead people about?



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