What was your favourite part from the film?
For me, the part where we see Steve ready to sacrifice himself in the plane at the end really moved me. Loved the character!
Also, of course the badassery of Diana was awesome to see.
"Oh, a baby!!!" LOL. It was a nice, light touch. And it touched me to that Steve sacrificed himself.
shareI loved that part too! So cute! And so funny!
shareThat brought Diana's cute naïveté!
shareSince they live so long on Themyscira (immortal, even?), they probably saw no babies, and had to read about them in books. It was like finally finding a unicorn to WW.
shareLoved it when she took out the sniper.
shareEverything with the militarily impotent Scottish guy...not.
I like when she kills the German general. That was the most personally brutal bit of violence in the movie and it was done by the hero, which is cool and I hope gives second thoughts to those "Batman doesn't kill" fanboys.
Also like when she makes the charge against the front line.
I actually like Dr. Poison's reactions a lot when Trevor is trying to sweet talk her. That scene is major deleted scene cut-bait, because it's a dead-end that leads nowhere in the story. But I suspect they kept it in because it's so interesting and well-acted.
The reveal of Ares was great.
I liked when WW flew a little in the final battle. Good nod to her comic book and cartoon incarnations that can fly.
I think you're confused. . .the idea that Batman doesn't kill is ingrained in his character since about 1950. Even when Miller turned him "dark," they made sure to emphasize this about him. It's INTEGRAL to who he is.
Wonder Woman is a warrior. She doesn't fight with gadgets to stop criminals; she fights with arrows, sword and shield. This is Integral to her character.
See the difference?
Conflating these two characters in some confused attempt to justify the terrible decisions the DC movies have made with Batman is simply foolish.
Lots of stuff was ingrained in DC characters before 1985 that got thrown out the window with Crisis. Even Superman killed the Phantom Zone villains in Byrne's series after that. Most people thought he killed them in Superman II as well. Last I checked, Batman killed the Joker in the 1989 movie, in what remains one of the most widely known Batman adventures of all time. And by most legal, moral and ethical standards, Batman "not saving" R'as in Batman Begins was also a kill he is responsible for.
There is no "rule" against killing, despite what some obsessive, immature fanboys like to pretend. These characters were made to be reinvented. We don't need to exist in the censored Seduction of the Innocent 1950s-era or the Saturday morning Super friends-era anymore. The characters can be adapted to modern times. Something tells me Wonder Woman wasn't killing left and right in the 1950s either, or in her TV show or cartoons, but that didn't stop them from writing her differently in the movie. Unless you're a little fanboy crybaby, you don't see this as a "fundamental" change, simply a minor tweak to remove some outdated thinking about the character. Batman is sure going to look like a wuss if he has to let a girl do his killing for him.
Yeah. . .no.
"Lots of stuff" absolutely was Not "thrown out" when DC did that first Crisis series. One thing that DEFINITELY wasn't thrown out was Batman's no-killing rule. As I said, it's been as much a part of his character as Superman's weakness to Kryptonite, Hal's fondness for the color green, and Flash's background as a scientist. It's INTEGRAL to who the character is. For a bunch of reasons; if you don't get that you just don't get it.
In the same way, Wonder Woman as warrior is also integral. The difference here is that DC has had SO MANY iterations of her origin (they're redoing it for the umpteenth time in the comics RIGHT NOW!), it's a challenge to do a coherent big-screen treatment that acknowledges & incorporates both the particulars as well as the basic concept. This movie did as well a job as is practicable, and should be applauded for such.
One thing is for sure: Wonder Woman killing is in NO WAY a result, tacit approval, or related to Bruce doing the same thing. One is a natural expression of who the character is, the other is an absolute repudiation of who the character is. If you don't see that, nobody can help you. And no: you don't have to be a "fanboy" to see it.
Batman is a killer but not a murderer.
shareDid you bother to address a SINGLE argument I made? No, because you have nothing to say to counter against how Batman has behaved in ALL his movie incarnations. And I said I don't care what the past character history is. Characters get changed and modernized all the time. They have to when their origins are in kiddie media that can no longer be swallowed as credible by modern adult audiences. Most audiences now would simply think it's ludicrous if Batman wouldn't kill a murderous villain to stop his rampage.
shareYou made no "arguments," for what it's worth. . .just a series of mistaken assertions, which. . .yes. . .I addressed. Your lack of comprehension aside, the bottom line is: Nobody's disputing how he's behaved in "all his movie incarnations." It's irrelevant to the point I was making: those "movie incarnations" are based on an already existing character. Who's been around for DECADES longer than any of them, with an already existing set of baseline traits.
You can babble all you want about what You think is "credible." It's irrelevant. Quite simply, any version of Batman that kills is exactly counter to what the character has represented, for the VAST majority of his career/incarnations. Regardless of how much you want to speak for "most audiences," this is simple math.
Everything with the militarily impotent Scottish guy...not.
I enjoyed her battle scenes.
shareMy hotdog was pretty good.
shareMine is probably the part when Ms. Woman (aka Hippolyta, the Queen of the Amazons) is saying goodbye to Diana and she says something like, "you were my greatest joy. But today you are my greatest sorrow". Something along those lines.
Also, honorable mention to the scene where Etta Candy points out that glasses don't hide anyone's beauty.