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WonderWoman question.

posted 8 years ago by CreepyButNice
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Is her strength level watered down in this movie? i mean the whole event takes place in the 30's where she just set out for an adventure outside The Amazon for the first time and she probably hasn't possessed enough power and skillset yet. i'm bringing this up just to find answers from those who are well informed of this character/movie. in the trailer it's pretty obvious that she's not as strong as she was in BVS, that takes place 70 years later. she has bulletproof skin, yes, she can toss a guy across the room, yes, she can slice her sword through thick woods, yes, but isn't she supposed to be way stronger than that? unless she's simply holding back. any solid explanation on this one?

[–] mddwbsst 8 years ago

Well she is several thousand years by this point, but apparently has never left her home. So I imagine she has the power and the skills, just no experience outside of training.

Likewise I think its safe to say she is somewhat holding back, she is after fighting regular humans not supernatural monsters she can let lose on.

An interesting point though is in a lot of continuities she doesn't actually have bullet proof skin. Her invulnerability is designed to withstand blunt force, fire and such. But not piercing or cutting weapons like swords. (Its to help provide conflict, as she no longer has any of her weaknesses)

And considering in the trailers she shields herself against machine gun fire, I'm assuming that's carrying onto here.

[–] Hassan_Scarborough 8 years ago

The trailer shows her using her shield to block bullets. So it doesn't look like her skin is bulletproof.

She tosses a soldier with one arm and gets hit by a rifle and the rifle shatters.

Looks like same old Diana to me. The only question is will she be stronger that Superman.

In the books she was able to break his hold and break his arm.

I'm wondering about the Amazon army. NO human army can stand up to Amazons in the books, unless they are enhanced. The question is are Amazons powered down.

[–] Destructo_Dude_Reborn 8 years ago

I always think of Wonder Woman being able to punch through a tank, so the bullet blocking never really made sense to me.

But the movie rules so far indicate that she is strong enough to be hit by Doomsday and not only keep going but prevail entirely. And her assortment of weapons and shields have magic behind them that counter everything Superman can throw at her except flying superfast.

The sword has pretty much replaced my complaint about the bullet blocking, because if she's this tough she really doesn't need a sword. Against Doomsday, I guess it was good to keep handy... or not... it kind of ruined everything.

EDIT: I seriously just typed "through" instead of "throw."

[–] mockingjay-07058 8 years ago

Superman doesn't require a sword and shield or any other form of protection. So that poses the question of who is stronger, Superman or WW? Though in BvS, it seemed as though WW was having a lot more luck against Doomsday than Superman.

[–] mddwbsst 8 years ago

Though in BvS, it seemed as though WW was having a lot more luck against Doomsday than Superman.

I wouldn't call it luck, more experience.

I liked it to be honest it sort of sets up there past. Superman's only ever been in two fights before this point, one against Zod's followers, and one against Zod (and that one against Zod was basically him losing till the very end), he's not used to fighting and has never had any formal training. So when somebody on a similar weight level turns up he's got problems.

Wonder Woman was trained by the amazons to fight since she could walk and has faced creatures on a similar power level for a long time. I think its purely a learning curve.

[–] Seratim 8 years ago

Superman and Supergirl are both somewhat stronger than Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman is number 3 on the strength meter among the DC heroes, but she is also the superior fighter. In a straight-up fight, she can take either of them.

Lesser-powered heroes, villains, and ordinary humans don't stand a chance against her in a fight. They have to resort to other means.

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[–] Teflon_Boy 8 years ago

I think it's really cool that despite Wonder Woman's many abilities and super powers, that it'a her level of experience that sets her apart. It creates an interesting dynamic next to Superman. As you say, Superman might be the more powerful of the two but WW has a mastery of her abilities that he yet doesn't. I'm not familiar with Batman and WW's dynamic, how does he measure up against her?

[–] mockingjay-07058 8 years ago

That is a good assessment and something that had been mentioned earlier that I failed to consider about Superman's level of experience against hers. I wonder if Superman had been around as long as WW, if that would change things up a bit. I assume it would. In terms of how Superman measures up against WW, there has been a lot of good comments on this thread about that. Though I believe Superman is more formidable than WW.

[–] ElDiomedes 8 years ago

Well, on few occasions we have Superman on earth for quite a while, like in Kingdom Come, although not canon, being on earth for a while, he develops invulnerability to Kryptonite. Then rather than fighting with Diana, he makes super babies with her. And being around for thousands of years, well, he becomes a celestial God.

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[–] Hassan_Scarborough 8 years ago

She beat Batman easily. She has more experience and is a martial arts expert and really a better fighter.

Plus she's too strong and fast.

[–] ElDiomedes 8 years ago

Batman just needs to say "I'm batman !", he has already won, to me.

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[–] ElDiomedes 8 years ago

In terms of Raw strength, and durability/invulnerability..Superman is superior. But WW has quicker reflexes, much better fighting skills and super magical weapon, shield and lasso, thus she can withstand and even overwhelm most incarnations Superman (Apart from the ridiculous Pre-Crisis fellow, All Star version and the douchebag Superboy-Prime).

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[–] politicidal 8 years ago

She looks pretty tough. And btw this is taking place during WW1 in the 1910s.

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