THE DESCENT...
You want to watch a good horror-cave movie?
go watch the descent...
It will scare the crap out of you.
best "cave-movie" ever...
AM I RIGHT?
Absolutely right! The Descent is the best cave movie I've seen. Claustrophobics beware and make sure you see the UK version with the unedited ending...
shareYeah The Descent is by far the best! About a million times better than Within
shareI don't get the Descent being better.
I prefer this movie.
Maybe that's because I saw it first.
It was more claustrophobic and shot wonderfully to accentuate that effect.
Also the explanation (a real human being, abandoned in the cave turning into an "animal") was more realistic than the creatures in the Descent.
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Just re-read this and I'm wondering if I got the two movies confused? LoL
Yeah, the Descent had nothing on this movie. The Cavern was one of the best films this year!
Wait no, I'm confusing the Cavern with Dorm Daze 2!
Seriously though, this movie was absolutely awful. The fact that it was human only made it worse. And while The Descent's ending was pretty terrible, this was one of the worst endings I've ever seen. Seriously... wtf?! She gets raped into the credits. Brilliant stuff. Did she escape after that? Did she become an animal also and breed little monster children? Are they saying that her getting raped is basically the same as dying and therefore they can just roll credits now?
Worst movie I've seen this year. And I've seen sooo many bad movies.
(Er... worst movie I've seen so far in 2007 AND 2006 I should state)
*** Spoilers *** people!?!?
PLEASE!!!
I haven't seen it yet...
Thanks heaps..
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I had no idea about her getting raped. Are you making it up?
I have seen uk edition in which movie ends as Sarah is having hallucinations of her daughter smiling with birthday cake. Actually she is sitting before a torch fire and creatures' screams are increasing (meaning they are coming near).
Spoilers! Didn't he stab her at the end? It was just a mess of a movie.
shareTHIS was more claustrophobic? that's about the most ridiculous statement you could say about this film in comparison to the descent, which was far and away a much better movie.
the shots do nothing to accentuate any sort of claustrophobia, maybe something closer to nausea, but to me it just looked like a sad attempt to instill a sense of the panic that the cavers were feeling. with the exception of the end when they are crawling in that tunnel with the leaves, at no point do the cavers face an even remotely tight or difficult squeeze, for most of the film they are running along decently wide and high passages and you can see that what they are running on is a flat surface. there is nothing like the tight squeezes or ascents/crossings/descents that the women in the descent faced and the terrain in the cavern scarcely changes.
the plot is horribly cliched, what with the beginner caver, the spiritual minority, the previous accident, and the fact that about every five minutes throughout the movie the characters say "we should have gone back, we shouldn't have left this person who has half a body left and wouldn't have been able to go anywhere." oh, and they try to ambush the monster WHILE STANDING IN THREE FEET OF WATER.
the ending was terrible. there's nothing more that even needs to be said about it.
and to top it all off, i can't even say that there was anything special or remotely notable about the performances from the actors.
with no scares, no intensity, no logic and running at a measly 75 minutes i can certainly say that this was one movie that should have been dropped in preproduction.
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in regards to the 'monster', especially when you find out just what it is, the movie gets even more ridiculous. okay, so the kid survived a plane crash that killed his parents and then for some reason walks into a nearby cave and decides to live there. somehow, his face becomes MORE disfigured in addition to his crash damage during the lengthy time of, oh, wait, less than 20 years, and he develops superhuman strength, speed and agility, all in the dark no less. and that's not even to start with how he killed the people.
I agree with you chaosrainz. The Descent had a much larger budget than this movie, and didn't impress me as much as this film did.
I think that there are a lot of Don Imus fans rating this movie.
I read your reply - now three years later.. Do you know how stupid you sound to compare fans of this movie to a talk show host? Wow.. Sounds like you're another dumb liberal with no clue.
Also the explanation (a real human being, abandoned in the cave turning into an "animal") was more realistic than the creatures in the Descent.
they weren't meant to be the people from the previous expedition. my understanding is they were a crazy evolved (more like devolved in this case) group of cavemen, who presumably killed the people from the earlier expedition.
And the Descent is brilliant. Almost every aspect of it as superb, besides maybe the pacing and acting of the smaller parts.
I haven't seen the Cavern, though. I'll look into it, though, since it seems atleast interesting.
The Cave was TERRIBLE, though.
and the fact that the human had super human strength and could walk on the roof was a better explanation then the inbred humanoids on The Descent?
"No tears please, It's a waste of good suffering"
The best cave movie that i choose is NOT The cavern/WIthIN. I think the best is tied between the cave and the descent. but then again the descent had a bad ending but it still is good bcause of the crazy man things. the cave isnt better than the descent cause i got bored somtimes. but them movies still tie against eash other.
shareTHE DESCENT is the bEST cave movie for me!!!
share"The Cavern/Within" was a miserable movie !
Good cave movies:
1. "The Descent"
2. "The Cave"
I agree as far as The Cavern and The Descent go. Th Cavern was way too shaky even for a shaky camera movie, although I did like the glow effect (like the one in the camera effects of a Mac). The camera was always kept too close to the actors.And the story. Oh God. It is totally illogical, a little boy of his age surviving on his own in a desert wasteland. It felt very much like a student film.
The Descent is among my top 3 favorite movies. The creatures are remotely believable and terrifying as well. The physical and symbolic mental descent went hand in hand, and worked perfectly in unison. The claustrophobia was intense, and your introduction to these girls made you care about their survival. Well, except Holly. And the standoff between Juno and Sarah struck a deep emotion. The whole morality issue, and the severity of Juno's punishment were perfect. After all, being wounded in a cave with murderous things is much worse than just being dead.
The Cave I thought only mediocre. A cave is a scary place, but these people managed to make it into an action movie, with no real shocks or scares. The cave itself was unrealistic. For the sake of "being cool" the film had a large cavern, underwater tunnels, an icy maze, and a fiery battlefield. Not that I didn't enjoy the coolness. The creatures were extremely cool, but it was definitely corny, trying to make them mutated humans. There was no resemblance to human beings in the creatures. All in all, it was a good one-watch, but has nothing on the gritty instinctualness of The Descent.
The Cavern- 3 (mostly for originality)
The Cave- 6 (for being stylishly cool and having explosions)
The Descent- 10 (for being friggin amazing)
I generally agree--the Descent is a far better film. The Cavern could have been a lot better--partly I agree with reasons already stated but I'd add this:
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too many stupid arguments, too much screaming! I know it was kind of low budget so fair enough on that but seriously--who has a dumb argument about some accident when three people have been gutted by a mysterious something?
Furthermore why didn't the bullets have any effect? Did they miss or what? I think that's possible--in fact I'm guessing (though I shouldn't have to) since they were wildly firing like lunatics in near total darkness but still...
Also I found the whole explanation at the end almost interesting but not enough to make up for wondering what the hell was going on throughout it. Nor is the weird magnetism of the cave, the amazing degree of sheer butchery committed by the freaky guy or anything explained either. It struck me as being Leatherface with low tech.
I agree with you that "The Descent" is a superior subterranean horror shocker. Still, I thought "The Cavern" was quite good. I'm likewise a big fan of "The Boogens," "What Waits Below," "Alien 2: On Earth," "The Mole People," and "The Strangeness."
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better than the Cave too
shareDescent had its share of problems. IMHO it's not the masterpiece it's rumored to be.
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. The creature don't make sense : if they are a trapped expedition, they obviously go hunt on the surface, so WTF ? Besides, as predators, they don't cut it : not only being blind would NOT help them in their hunt, but they can' even smell a motionless body, nor feel it's heat ? Would not survive long I guess. Touches like the female creature's obvious feeling for her mate was a nice touch though.
. WTF with the husband ? From the get-go, it's "I've lost my little girl, how horrible", but does not have the slightest feeling toward the men. I know they are just slabs of meat only good to pay for the car and the kid's tuition, but that was a bit cold, especially when the adultery angle and Alpha Woman fight comes out of left field.
. Characterization. To little, too late. Though the woman act like every normal human being would. Though… the "I wanted us to discover this cavern, so no one knows we're here" ranks up there with the Blair Witch's "I threw the map away !" moment as far as WTF !!! goes.
That's why "The descent", though a very good thrill ride, is overrated as a whole. I've seen horror movies since age fourteen, so that's why I enjoy it when it does not just delivers the scares — and The descent" did, in spades — but cares about the little details. Think "The Others". You can watch it again and again, enjoying how every little piece of the puzzle falls flawlessly into place. Or think Robert Wise's "The Haunting"'s psychological ambiguity.
Now, had I seen it when I was fifteen, I might have loved "The Descent" (And I'm not being patronizing. I saw "Friday the thirteenth" when it first came out, and could not believe what a piece of crap it was. Later on, I regret having seen "Halloween" years later, hence numbing the impact.) But I wish filmmkers would not assume that horror fans don't care about stories and characters. It's a mùix of elements that makes most classics.
"Within" ? Ah, yes. Good moments for such a low budget, with some visual flair, but some stupid ones and an ending that just… Ended, leaving too many possibilities open… Still better than the piece of Hollywood crap that was THE CAVE. Can't believe I was unfortunate enough to see this turkey in a theatre !
Yes, "The descent" is hence the best "cave" movie… By default ! (Unless you count in the original "Journey to the center of the earth" — THAT is a classic !) ;)
I really like "The Descent." I've liked it since the first time I saw it.
Even though it doesn't take place in a cave, let's not forget 1972's "Raw Meat" (U.S. tile)/"Death Line" (U.K. title.)
I'm not sure how I feel about "The Cavern." My initial reaction is that it's so-so. It had a few decent parts, but there were a lot of let-downs when things didn't seem to be fully developed. In other words, there could have been some good action and scares here, but the makers didn't take those opportunities. One of these days I'll watch "The Cavern" again, and decide if I want to keep it or cash it in as a used DVD. Luckily, I didn't pay that much for it.
The Descent was beyond mediocre. One of the worst cliché-ridden horror films I've seen in recent years, with ugly cinematography and implausible plot turns (pipe goes down diagonally through the windshield with enough left-over momentum to go clear through his head and the head rest? CARTOON WARNING) as well as the director's usual "homages" to better films.
I haven't seen this yet, but I doubt it can be any worse than The Descent.
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it doesn't take place in a cave, but i liked Catacombs. When you find out who the killer was, i was blown away!
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