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SPOILINGS! Ray made this movie / it does not surpass The Girl next door


Okay, two opinions. I throw 'em in here but most likely won't read it back. Simply because The Girl Next Door made my body and heart go through a grinder & I hate to read people to tell me otherwise. It's what I feel. I hate people telling me I'm wrong in that department.

But anyway. There's no reason to even compare these movies. The one is such a hopeless case of, ehm... *beep* aweful hopelessness (maybe because we know how it ends?). But this movie. I don't know how the director managed it (I haven't read the book) but even though this Ray was a really aweful guy... He had depth. To me he felt like these Japanese antagonists that have this certain backstory or feeling to back them up, so you can't help rooting for them. Ray made me feel like he had that, even though he was a *beeping beep of a beep beeper*.

The arc with Katherine showed that he was able to love, but he needed more than these simple bimbos. They were beatmeat anyway. He needed a strong woman to keep him in check (which, okay, maybe have been only for a while) but even though he's a *beeper*, there's tons of these *beepers* like him! We can't get rid of them! They go somewhere. So, what a world it would be if there were more Katherine's around to force guys like Ray down & accept the stuff they're ashamed of and give them some real self-esteem. Not this stupid putting-cans-in-my-boot-to-feel-huge kinda stuff. These *beepers* are alive, so.... And yeah, sometimes there's really a heart hiding somewhere within these Ray kinda guys!

During the last act of the film you see this bad side taking over. it made him more human than I would have though to get see of him. I loved the abduction part, how he loses it & even though I'm not a sicko, I sort of understand (by heart) how this desperate situation makes him going this far. He was forced in some sort of way. But everything changes when he gets into that house. Here he loses what made him human during the movie, so yeah... He had to die. It made the end way to easy and satisfactory. I hoped he died as a human, like the guy in Falling Down.

I love humans and characters like these! :)

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I have always thought the same. Marc made this film. It's by far one of my favorite films over the past 5+years(along with dead girl and the woman). I loved the lost so much that I actually got in touch with marc after in saw it and congratulated him n chatted for a bit.i said it from the start that ray pye reminded me of crispin glovers role inn the rivers edge.

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